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Fastwalker
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Hey $#@#!. This is how your party thinks. Caught on tape....
Tuesday, July 22, 2003
Democrats Caught Plotting to Worsen California's Budget Crisis
You know the Democrats have done something awful when even the leftist Los Angeles Times breaks ranks and exposes them. "In a meeting they thought was private but was actually broadcast around the Capitol on Monday, 11 Assembly Democrats debated prolonging California's budget crisis to further their political goals."
Members of Democratic Study Group, which has pushed to confiscate billions more dollars from taxpayers, failed to note that a microphone in a committee room in the state Capitol was on as they schemed about using the Dems' favorite tactic, obstructionism, to pressure Republicans into accepting the Dems' favorite non-solution, tax increases, to fix Gov. Gray Davis' $38 billion budget deficit.
"The conversation was transmitted to roughly 500 'squawk boxes' around Sacramento that political staff, lobbyists and reporters use to listen in on legislative proceedings," the Times reported today.
Leftist Assemblywoman Jackie Goldberg of Los Angeles said: "Since this is going to be a crisis, the crisis could be this year. No one's running [for re-election]. And maybe you end up better off than you would have, and maybe you don't. But what you do is you show people that you can't get to this without a 55 percent vote."
The state Constitution requires a two-thirds majority of the Legislature to approve any tax increase, but the ballot initiative would let the Legislature sock taxpayers with a vote by only 55 percent of legislators.
Assemblyman Fabian Nunez, also of L.A., agreed. "If you don't have a budget, it helps Democrats," he said.
Democrats to the Poor: Drop Dead!
The Times admitted, "While a delay might serve the tactical advantage of Democrats, its consequences are already being felt by students, vendors and the poor: Since the new fiscal year began July 1 without a budget, the state has already begun to cut off money to some programs."
Assembly Budget Committee Vice Chairman John Campbell, R-Irvine, listened to about 20 minutes of the meeting on the squawk box in his office.
"It sounded like they were hoping to create a crisis at some point to further their political gains in other areas," he said. "I thought that was outrageous."
He said that the Democrats talked about exploiting the public's distaste for the (Democrat-run) Legislature.
"They were worried that if the Legislature appeared to have dealt with the budget crisis, the initiative may not play well," he said. "This is very surprising, considering they are in charge."
"Their intention is to destroy the state of California and its financial base," said Assembly Minority Leader Dave Cox of Fair Oaks. "They intend to hold up the budget."
After an hour and a half, a staff member finally told the dimwitted Democrats that their meeting was being broadcast.
"Oh [expletive], [expletive]," Goldberg said.
"The squawk box is on," the underling said. "You need to turn it off right there."
"How could that happen?" Goldberg said.
She later refused to apologize even after being caught red-handed and with foot in mouth.
"We're in a crisis. You don't have to precipitate one. The question is whether we should make that crisis happen now when it's really happening," was the best Goldberg could offer. "When you wait a year, you double the amount you have to cut. Is it better to do it now or next year?"
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shatoga
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Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:23 am
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'thanks FW, as always.
bumping the topic that proves your reason for posting.
It is always a risk.
My gratitude!
That some conservatives are not wholly soulless is gratifying!
Post insults and innuendo to balance.
that your dark lord may forgive the abberation and let you continue to serve the darkside.
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Fastwalker
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Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:52 am
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Read the article Shat...I don't think you'll find any insults there, just an accounting of what actually took place and has been widely reported. This is just another example of the party you serve. |
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shatoga
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Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:31 am
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Thanks FW for serving truth instead of the parody you usually serve.
Bumping this topic is supporting God's honest truth!
Hating me, and all others
who distrust both sides and seek the truth is a given.
Would only that truth mattered also to the rightwing bush loyalists.
Of course, if truth matterd, you would be no longer loyal to Bush.
stupid US.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by shatoga on 07-23-2003] |
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Fastwalker
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Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:56 am
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quote:
Hating me, and all others
who distrust both sides and seek the truth is a given.
I don't hate you Shat. On the contrary, as I said, I feel sorry for you because I do believe you are under the influence of people and forces that are using you, deluding you. I don't want to destroy you, I want to pull you out of the muck and illuminate your path. I want to help you to see the light. You are not in control of your own destiny right now if you give up that control to Democrats and a leftist philosophy, the only purpose of which is to subjugate you to the whim of truly evil people. Just let logic in...be honest with yourself. Let yourself understand the truth in the arguments of conservatives. Open your mind to the arguments I am making here and have a two way conversation for once. Really, this is common sense. All you have to do is open your eyes to see how much light you are really not seeing, and refuse to see.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Fastwalker on 07-23-2003] |
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shatoga
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Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:19 am
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>Michael Grant
this past Sunday's Issues section of The Tennessean.
The lead story was about Howard Dean's meteoric rise to the national spotlight. It does not take a rocket scientist to predict that Howard Dean, whom Republicans have been advised to contribute to via the internet, will fizzle as fast as he found favor with the fringe.< |
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Fastwalker
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Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:31 am
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See, $#@#!? This is what happens when you try to post when you're drunk.  |
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shatoga
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Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:58 am
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Wasn't drinking when I posted about the Tenneseean,
but:
Re FW's canned RNC talking point reply:
Churchill (whom conservatives love because he imprisoned Britons without recourse to trial)
Lady: "Sir Winston you're drunk!"
Churchill: "Lady; tommorrow I'dd be sober and you'll still be ugly!"
FW,
Drunk or sober, I recognize truth from lies.
Tommorrow I'll be sober and you will still be stupidly self-deluded into worshiping the cult of conservatism.
Where you are, I once was...
Where I am...you may become...
Leave the darkside.
Renounce evil.
Join us former cult members who love america and distrust the cult of conservatism.
Put America first and your cult last.
Become a true patriot alongside me.
Actually stand for what Republicans once stood for:
Support the US Constitution and oppose Bush!
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shatoga
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Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:20 am
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Just posted a link to some posts in this thread.
I'd prefer respondents
to post in 'other trails" than just this thread.
Trying to encourage others (progressive and neo-con)to contribute to CC.
Put America first and politics last.
Become a true patriot.
Actually stand for what Republicans once stood for:
Support the US Constitution and oppose Bush!
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theseeker
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Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:39 am
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whaddaya' trying to replace me ?
that's not very nice...
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shatoga
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Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:40 am
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quote:
Originally posted by theseeker:
whaddaya' trying to replace me ?
that's not very nice...
Replace you?
Where would Abbot have been without Costello?
Martin without Lewis...
Rowan without Martin...
Each and every post is appreciated.
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theseeker
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Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:11 am
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awww
dean martin had some pipes...
[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 08-20-2003] |
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shatoga
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Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:58 am
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& you have some good relevant points at times.
We remain on opposite sides.
Wouldn't it be boring if nobody had a different opinion?
Heck; we could talk into a tape recorder to hear our own opinions.
At least, during the heated arguments, we learn from each other.
But really:
Apply to Bivings et al!
They could use some good people.
Why not post what you already believe and get paid for it?
It really is a very comfortable director's chair.
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theseeker
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Wed Aug 20, 2003 2:32 pm
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thanks for the offer...but I'm an independant operator...and like it that way
btw more on topic...there's a wolf in sheep's clothing cruising this board...
beware |
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