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Os Wilkes
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 Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:49 am
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quote:
Originally posted by swamp gas:
Agreed! It does not matter whether the "attack" is real or staged, same effect........Marital Law......Official suspension of the Constitution and VOTING. ...snip...
....Come to Uncle Satan.....I mean Uncle Sam!!!
[Edited 3 times, lastly by swamp gas on 06-20-2004]
Well now, you are almost as nutty as I am.  I guess you are either a spook or you are on a couple of lists like I am. Pretty soon everyone will be one or the other. You gotta choose sides now.
I know what side I am on. My ancestor was a captain under G. Washington at the crossing of the Delaware. We do not like King George.
But everyone will be assigned to one side or another whether they come out or not. The courts are trying to prevent the DoD from infiltrating the civilian population to gather intelligence. They are anyhow, but not on the books. Contractors of contractors do it.
On a lighter note:
Is that a cockateil??? How cute!!!!! We have lovebirds, a sun conure and an African Grey who is twice as smart as I am. That may not be saying much these days...
Os
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:52 am
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LOL! I didn't realize my typo and I put "Marital Law" instead of Martial Law. Marriage doesn't mean as much as it did when we were growing up, but we have been married for over 30 years, and been together going on 33 years. So in that respect, I respect The Law of Marriage because the divorce rate is at 50% right now.
Yes, that is a cockatiel, called CeeBee, 10 years old, the King of the Flock, and Mech's friend. We have 18 'tiels, age ranging from 3 years old to 17 years.
We watch birds occasionally for vacationers, and had a Senegal and Conure a while ago. They were actually scared of CeeBee, even though the Conure out-weighed him by 50 grams.
I work with a fellow who has an African Grey, and they taught him a bunch of Three Stooges quotes like, "Quiet numbskulls, I'm broadcastin'", and " Hey puddinhead"
Here's a picture of some of our birds relaxing:
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Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:10 pm
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Good looking birds swamp gas " I know what side I am on. My ancestor was a captain under G. Washington at the crossing of the Delaware. We do not like King George."Os Wilkes Same here,ancestor fought at Bunker Hill,Lexington,Concord one of those places.He was under the command of Thomas Paine,not the 'Common Sense 'author. |
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:40 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Os Wilkes:
Well now, you are almost as nutty as I am. I guess you are either a spook or you are on a couple of lists like I am. Pretty soon everyone will be one or the other. You gotta choose sides now.
Nuttier!!! They have lists for the lists I am on.
The birds thanks you Increase, for the compliment!
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Thermit
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Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:26 pm
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[testing: this thread is a little bit confused about the page numbers, anybody ready for a new forum? ]
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Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:26 pm
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ONE aircraft carrier is sent to a trouble spot as a reminder of US presence. This was done several times in the past, when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.
TWO carriers show serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.
THREE OR FOUR are sent in combat situations - as in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.
Sending SEVEN carriers in peace time to the same region is unprecedented. The US plan to do this after mid-July, in the Pacific Ocean near China, is a message to Beijing for its threat to use force to stop Taiwanese independence.
In an exercise codenamed Operation Summer Pulse 04, it is expected to arrange for an unprecedented seven aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs) to rendezvous in waters a safe distance away from the Chinese coastline - but still within striking distance - after mid-July.
This will be the first time in US naval history that it sends seven of its 12 CSGs to just one region.
According to a Department of Defence statement, Summer Pulse is to test out a new Fleet Response Plan (FRP) aimed at enhancing the American Navy's combat power and readiness in a time of crisis.
The FRP calls for the despatching of six 'forward deployed' or 'ready to surge' CSGs to a trouble spot within 30 days, and an additional two within 90 days.
Although the statement does not say where the seven CSGs will exercise, the Status of the Navy website said the USS Carl Vinson, Abraham Lincoln, John C Stennis and Kitty Hawk were in the Pacific Ocean as of yesterday.
The USS Enterprise and Harry Truman are in the Atlantic Ocean while USS George Washington is in the Persian Gulf.
According to a posting on Sina.com, an influential website in China, the signs point to a gathering of all seven CSGs in the Pacific.
Sources in Beijing say China's reading is that Summer Pulse is being
Sources in Beijing say China's reading is that Summer Pulse is being mounted with it as the target audience, a suspicion reinforced by reports that Taiwanese forces are slated to join in the drill.
Clearly, given Beijing's repeated warning that it will use force, as a last resort and whatever the cost, to stop Taiwanese independence, the US feels it needs to send Beijing a message.
From past deployment patterns, the US usually despatches one CSG to a trouble spot as a reminder of its presence.
It did so several times in the past when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.
It sends two to indicate serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.
In a combat situation, it deploys three to four, which was what it did in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.
But never before has it sent in peace time seven CSGs to the same theatre.
The implications for China are grave.
According to Kanwa Defence News, which specialises in Chinese military matters, Beijing can cope with just one CSG currently.
'But in five to 10 years, it can certainly take on seven,' said Mr Chang Hong-yi, head of Kanwa, in an interview with The Straits Times.
'China's military potential is enormous and in terms of military technology, the gap with the US is closing fast,' he added.
However, a Chinese military source who declined to be identified is more sanguine.
'Even now, China can easily take on two CSGs,' he said but conceded that there was no way it could face seven all at the same time.
This means that if China has to wage war over Taiwan, it has to be able to land and seize control of the island within the first 30 days.
Otherwise, under the FRP, six CSGs may well arrive to join in the battle.
'All this leaves China with no choice but to start and end the war with lightning speed,' said the source.
Politically, Summer Pulse is likely to be seen by many Chinese as naked intimidation.
'This is gunboat diplomacy in the 21st century,' the source remarked, adding that it would remind the Chinese people of their century-long deep humiliation by Western powers - and put Sino-US relations at peril.
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Mech
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:36 am
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93% Of All US Navy Ships Said At Sea - Why?
From: http://rense.com/general53/SHSHI.HTM
Half Past Human.com
A Little Puzzle In Logic
6-14-4
If the navies of the world were putting to sea en masse - and they are (10 carrier groups out from US alone - 93 per cent of ALL US naval ships are at sea - official stats)....
And if the Federal Reserve Bank was force-feeding liquidity into the system at rates that exceeded the post-911 period, then a few reasonably sound deductions might be made of this....
But first, some assumptions:
1) Navies put to sea when they expect severe weather.
2) It is very expensive to keep navies at sea for any length of time, and the poorer the country, the shorter the time possible.
3) Navies do *not* put to sea en masse for war, especially nuclear war (think about it, the task forces are easy to find. Lob in a nuclear warhead and, voila: no more task force (and no 'collateral
damages or radioactive real estate).
4) The Fed forcing money into the system has a short term, limited effect - likely on the order of less than 2 month's cycle time (money velocity through the system).
Therefore, our deductions might be as follows:
a) Since many of the most powerful nations have sent their naval forces to sea, then whatever the reason for it, it not likely to be a political one.
b) Because so many navies are at sea, it seems logical that the powers that be suspect something of a global dimension to occur that would adversely affect ships if there were in port. This argues for both global impact, and climatic/environmental dynamic, as no purely political/social event would affect all navies planet-wide.
c) Since navies can only mill-about so long on the water, especially en masse, the 'whatever' is a short-term expectation.
d) Since the effects of the Fed liquidity explosion are going to go through the monetary system like heroin through an addict, that is, one short term 'rush' and then withdrawal leading to very shakey behavior, the 'whatever' that the Fed is preparing for is, also likely, a short-term expectation.
Of course the definition of 'short-term' could vary, but it would seem safe to assume that the US Navy won't be at sea for months. Perhaps a good definition would be that of a month. And some sort of global navy affecting event may or may not occur.
This may suggest the Aussie Bloke stuff, but, today, a single large earthquake in Antarctica rattled the world, setting off a series of quakes along many parts of the Pacific Rim. So, if the navies of the world were expecting something to occur, and thought to be better safe than sorry, they might put,
indeed, put to sea.
Since we have two, verified, observable occurances, i.e. navies out to sea, and Fed pumping money like never before in history, we have a logic puzzle. Neither of the observable events makes sense within the context of today's world, unless there is something wicked this way coming.....or thought to be by those we pay to know.
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