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Sceptic





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Fighting back PostWed Jan 03, 2001 5:42 pm  Reply with quote  

Am I the only one here who feels that nsasucks is living in a cosy little fantasy world? One of his "tactics" appears to be stopping his car and photographing occupants of cars behind him. He's surprised when they cover their faces etc. Well, blow me down. If somebody leapt from their car to photgraph me, I'd be diving for cover, too. The funny thing is that he does it all in the name of personal freedom (as well as providing a valuable public service!!).

In the process, he's also generating fear, outrage, and probably panic.

Could someone please let him know that those James Bond movies are not fly-on-the-wall documentaries; they're just movies.

The odd thing is that someone paranoid enough to believe everything he says would surely demur at downloading the software he recommends. I mean to say, the software could *never* contain a trojan horse, could it? nsasucks could *never* be from the NSA, could he?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Sceptic on 01-03-2001]
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nsasucks





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 6:12 pm  Reply with quote  

The material stands on its own. Sceptic tank and The Stinker are really doing everything they can from

red herring
slippery slope
fear mongering

and other tactics in their agency attempts to scare this info. Tough. Unless the board moderator asks me to stop, you guys simply suck--for all to see.

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Thermit





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 6:42 pm  Reply with quote  

I find the information fascinating.
I can't say if it's correct, but it is certainly more realistic than Mr. Fleming's creations.
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nsasucks





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 7:25 pm  Reply with quote  

Thermit:

If it would help, I could post all this stuff under a separate header, or whatever it is called, keeping them all together.

If I see the header appear, I'll put them there, if it's okay with you?
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defender





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 1:24 am  Reply with quote  

We can all use a little education when it comes to covert activities & organized crime. This is a subject you will rarely (if ever) find in the Mass Media's tight, controlled little world.

If humanity is to advance in a positive direction, someone will have to keep turning over the rocks and find a way to end the secrecy. With human nature being susceptible to greed and fear, I can't see how government/corporate secrecy will ever end. Pay-offs and bribes, assassinations, threats to loved ones and careers are as old as recorded history.

For those of you who haven't experienced it, it may be hard for you to imagine. But the reality is far more ugly than any media movie, documentary or newspaper can or would portray. If it's too unpleasant, or makes you ask too many questions, or hurts ratings and bothers the sponsors, then it's shelved.

In fact, ultra-slick movies like the James Bond series have glamorized it for years and made it cool to be cruel. I'd like to see a movie showing some hired assassins, like James Bond, go after a child porno-ring and uncover blackmail operations aimed at political figures. Now that could be entertaining and educational!

There's always hope. Other forces are at work, thank God.

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defender





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 1:55 am  Reply with quote  

Hi, NSAsucks

..."We also know that anyone who delves into the dark side of the US government, has a dossier active on them with the FBI, NSA, ONI, CIA, DIA, OMEGA, WACKENHUT, and dozens of other alphabet soup agencies. These agencies update each other agency, as needed"....

I'm not sure I agree with this though. Often times at least in the past, these groups are/have been at odds with themselves, even to the point of setting each other up in counterproductive operations. One hand often doesn't know what the other is doing. I know that this is how they can have (among other things), plausible deniability, but they are not infallible. And I'm not aware of any chemtrial activist having been murdered. You may be right, but do you really know that to be true?

Do you believe that this is just an American phenomenon, with U.S. agencies at the heart of the problem? I haven't read all of your posts, so maybe I should read them all before I make this post?....oh well, too late now! Maybe you can give me a condensed version?

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nsasucks





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 2:35 am  Reply with quote  

The updating and file maintenance by multiple agencies is confirmed, over and over again. A typical activists file, if printed out, would yeild about 8" of documentation in thickness, for each year of active tracking. Mine is over four feet thick, according to an Ex_FBI agent who clued me in (friend of the family.)

You can tell by the sheer hatred and vitriolic attacks by the disinfo agents here on this board that they would do anything to keep this information from being public. Anything.

Remember, we didn't create this reality. We are just trying to play on a level field, and that means tactical knowledge. There is no nice way to put this info, you just have to let it speak for itself.

Finally, what crime have we citizens really committed here? Wanting to know why we are sick, eyes burning, coughing without medical explanation, and in the end, when we do want the truth, the agencies are all over us like a cheap suit. This knowledge gives us a chance to seek out the truth and keep our lives at the same time. Whether you agree or disagree with this intel, they-bastards-are still gonna track you and screw with you. Now you can do something about it.

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defender





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 3:02 am  Reply with quote  

The line between organized crime and the alleged good guys has thinned over the years, hard to tell one from the other in some cases.

Being an American, I guess I'm more familiar with American agencies and operations like COINTELPRO and MK-ULTRA (joint British operation), but I do know that other intel agencies around the world have their problems too, and in the overall picture, I wonder if all of them are linked as is suggested in NWO theories.

I also think that it only takes a few rotten apples at the top, to spoil the whole group in any agency. And they know it too. A few well-placed creeps (like Hoover himself) can cause all kinds of problems, and with no-one able, willing or in a position to police them, it's inevitable that abuse will happen.

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Thermit





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 3:44 am  Reply with quote  

ummm...nsasucks? How many of these Fighting Backs are there gonna be?

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nsasucks





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 3:53 am  Reply with quote  

Well, gee, there's gonna be about


250 already written up!

GIve the word and it all stops right now.

The spooks here are obvious. THey'll decry anything that exposes govt. wrong-doing, and not just with CTs, as you know. I don't mind the dissenters. In fact, I don't pay attention to them at all. But I have seen good people like Chuck S, die of unexplained cancer for reporting on CTS.

Might it be good to put these under a separate header?
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theseeker





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 4:27 am  Reply with quote  

Nsa says most people have an info stack 8 inches tall, and his/her's is 4 feet...I'd say you 250 pages of cerebral hemmorage does not work....

nsa also say chuck schemerek (sp?) died of unexplained cancer because of his involvement with chemtrails ?

A debunker involved in chemtrails has developed a threatening disease too, I guess under nsa's philosophy that would be explained....

I'm having a hardtime keeping my cool Thermit....

T/S

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nodebbunker





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 5:53 am  Reply with quote  

If a citizen doesn't do any thing to call attention to themselves, why would they need to know any of this fighting back crap?

There are those of us who don't cloak their identity, because, there's no reason we have to - we're not doing anything inappropriate or threatening, nor do we make false accusations based on speculation, therefore, there's no reason to heed any of this "advice." If you're honest, truthful and lawful,why would you even bother to read the Fighting Back Chronicles once you get the jest of them? Any person who is streeet wise pretty much knows how to be aware of what's going on around them without making a paranoid spectacle of themself. The PAYtriot movement has done a good job of buggering up the real partiot movement to make all concerned citizens who speak up appear to be on the same level as one who would jump out of their car and photo the people in the cars behind them. There are definitely "ringers" on the internet, radio, TV and out in the field "sounding the alarm" in an attempt to set people up, getting names, numbers and characters.

But, hey, I'm a sleeping operative, what do I know?

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just a housewife from Indiana
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nsasucks





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 6:05 am  Reply with quote  

that's right. A good citizen shouldn't know this at all. The thought police won't like it.

This series has nothing to do with setting people up, though the inference has been made. It's just good reading, then we can go back to our handlers and have our minds get a good "washing" to get those evil thoughts out.

Stinker doesn't like this information, either. It upsets his paymasters, who make him upset. In stinky's world, I would be shot. Stinky doesn't like free speech. He obviously doesn't understand what a constitution is or how it works in our country.

So, here's the juice. I have just chatted my with compatriots and we have decided that every time Stinky, septic tank, debunker, rant against chemtrails, we are going to take this information (all250 lessons, btw) and all the hard data we have compiled on CTs, which is over 3 gigs, and dump it onto 6 European and South American Boards, web sites, and activist foundations. You three are now our sole reason for living. Thank you...from the bottom of our hearts...for giving us a reason to work longer and harder than ever before!

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theseeker





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 6:51 am  Reply with quote  

nsa sez...

>Stinker doesn't like this information, either. It upsets his paymasters, who make him upset. In stinky's world, I would be shot. <

That's probably true 3 out of even 5 pickups here in the sticks have a rifle in the back window, and we don't like fearmongering people....

Wow when posting it's realtime...cool...just caught your 2nd edit, nsa....the thing is you can dump crap anywhere and it still stinks....

Anyone who drums up antagonism...causes divsion instead unification has no credibility....you are smart not showing your town, e-mail, with your attitude someone might want to whip your ass....

I'd like to use the "yawner pic"...but I won't.....

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T/S
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nsasucks





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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 6:59 am  Reply with quote  

Thank you. That's six more boards this intel and CT information is going to.

I love this guy!
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