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3T3L1
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For those who may be curious, here is Jay Reynolds' account of how the barium in chemtrails story got started. I have reformatted portions of this material to make it easier to follow.
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jayreynolds
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(2/11/02 9:04:15 pm)
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TIME LINE FOR THE SECOND "SPOTLIGHT" ARTICLE
June 15th, 2000
Griffith introduces his idea that "electroactive polymer fibers" are in contrails, which he attempts to support by quoting a DARPA document which refers to these fibers being used in robotics and image processing. He also issues a veiled threat to scientists and government employees whom he mistakenly believes are "spraying" fibers on them: "If the government told the people of the nature of the experiments, I believe the citizens would physically attack the government employees and scientists involved." http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsmilitaryprojectsresearch.showMessage?topicID=6.topic
June 16th, 2000
Griffith uses the phrase, "The experiments are layered from the ground of the earth up to the ionosphere and beyond." This phrase is found within "The Spotlight" article: http://www.rense.com/general4/chmmm.htm "A member of the research group told The Spotlight that "an over-whelming array of ongoing military research and development and defense-related activity is layered from ground level into space," http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsmilitaryprojectsresearch.showMessage?topicID=6.topic
July 6, 2000
Posted by Clifford Carnicom "on behalf of Griff" were this photo and text entitled "Enemy Radar View". http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsbariumresearch.showMessage?topicID=5.topic Rather than being the work of either A.C. Griffith or Carnicom, both the image and the text was taken from this 1996 "Popular Mechanics" article. http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/sci/tech/9607TUMIKM.html [link broken] In order to alter the original so that it served his purpose, Griffith has added the final sentence:" The Variable Terrain Radio Parabolic Equation (VTRPE) model has been tested and perfected after aerosol barium titanate salt mixture was released from military aircraft, forming chemical trails in the atmosphere across America. This was ONE experiment / project conducted with barium salt mixture in the atmosphere." At the same time, realizing that if people knew VTRPE was simply an equation used to approximate real-life situations of radar propagation, Griffith removed the phrase "A complex mathematical model that currently can run only on a supercomputer" from his version of the article. Griffith lifted a "Popular Mechanics" article, including an image, without attribution, and altered it, adding and deleting text. His goal was to impress readers with what he hoped they would accept as his "research". Within several days, I was able to uncover and expose the hoax for all to see.
July 14th, 2000
Griffith introduces his idea that Barium is a component of contrails: http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsbariumresearch.showMessage?topicID=4.topic "I have every reason to believe that a barium salt mixture has been released into the atmosphere - but not limited to barium salt. If I were not sure of what I'm telling you I would not post this document." However, Griffith proceeds to tell none of the reasons he believes this to be true.
July 16th, 2000
Griffith urges people to use search engines to find references to "advanced radar studies". He says: "New doors of understanding will open for you. Stay with "Advanced Radar Studies" until you get enough insight to begin to see into their projects. Later other project doors will open to you for further understanding." http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsbariumresearch.showMessage?topicID=4.topic Here is the search he specified his followers to make: Search metacrawler using keywords "advanced radar studies" http://www.metacrawler.com/help/noquery.html
July 24,2000
Griffith describes an anonymous conversation he says was related to him regarding barium, because of this, he says, "We know we're right on target!" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsbariumresearch.showMessage?topicID=7.topic
July 25th, 2000
Clifford Carnicom creates a messageboard forum specifically for Griffith's barium idea, saying, "One suggestion is to invite Griff to present an opening statement here, since to my understanding, he is the source and genesis of this research. Deborah may be inclined as well as you suggest since there has been extensive research on both accounts." http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsbariumresearch.showMessage?topicID=2.topic Griffith Goes to Ground After this point, A.C. Griffith dropped out and away from public view, not making public comments but asking people to confer via e-mail.
10/3/2000
Griffith posts the complete text of "The Spotlight" article of 10/9/2000. He leads with the subject line, "Spotlight Newspaper does it again !!". http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=3266.topic [link broken] This is a direct reference to his pride in this being the second article in which he has been the focus of an interview by Mike Blair in "The Spotlight". The same day, the same text was also posted by Clifford Carnicom at his messageboard and website. http://www.carnicom.com/report1.htm
10/5/2000
On October 5th, I informed both A.C. Griffith and Clifford Carnicom by e-mail that I had begun research and intended to expose the process by which Griffith had created "Project Report No. 1" and the identity of it's author(s).
10/7/2000
A.C. Griffith, in response to my message, began circulating an e-mail message warning of an attack coming on what he called "The Spotlight Report". I have never had any intention of disputing what was contained in "The Spotlight", which I believe accurately reported the story told to it by A.C.Griffith.
In his email, Griffith cites his sources, "As investigators get closer to the truth, informed sources in government say that an aggressive effort is forthcoming and will attempt to systematically discredit people and information found in the recent Spotlight Chemtrail Report." I say, "Which INFORMED SOURCES IN GOVERNMENT, GRIFFITH?"
To the present day, A.C Griffith has not made further public appearances, or responded to my requests for further information, including verifiable documentation of his military record. It is almost as if he's hiding out, waiting for the next shoe to drop.
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Note: This report was displayed at a website I created in 2001, but which subsequently disappeared offline. Repeated emails to the free host regarding what happened went unanswered. I assume that threats of legal action were made against the host which dropped the site as part of their risk aversion policy.
Deb was a member of "The Group" during the time Griffith created the barium idea., and would testify that what I say is factual, I'm sure. Unless someone is feeding this stuff TO Griff, he is simply making it up. My next post will deal with him.
Jay
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jayreynolds
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(2/11/02 9:22:42 pm)
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WHO IS A.C. GRIFFITH?
A.C. Griffith as Airman 2nd Class, 1959,serving with the 6925th Radio Squadron, Mobile as a radio repairman, http://www.clarkab.org/organizations/6925thrsm/griffith/GriffithAC282.jpg A.C. Griffith, age sixty, http://www.clarkab.org/organizations/6925thrsm/griffith/nsmailRAlr.jpg is a resident of Richmond, VA, who also operates a business near Winston-Salem,NC, called Yesterdayradio.com, http://www.yesterdayradio.com/ which specializes in reproductions of historical radio broadcasts. To my knowledge, Griffith has not engaged in commercial activity related to the contrail controversy, or advertised his business among his fellow "believers". I have asked Griffith if he was indeed an Air Force officer, but he has refused to respond. This leads me to conclude that he is not able to document his service without revealing that he was only an enlisted man, and never an officer as he claimed to "The Spotlight". He maintains a webspace at the Clark Air Force Base website http://www.clarkab.org/organizations/6925thrsm/griffith/ where he displays photos and reminiscences of his duty there as an enlisted man between 1959-60. He served with the 6925th Mobile Radio Squadron, which operated radios which monitored transmitters in China and took bearings on their locations. While this work could be considered "intelligence gathering", it does not amount to being an "NSA official", as Griffith claimed to "The Spotlight".
NOTE: Deborah of Boston, Kim Weber, wisequakker, carnicom, Mike Castle, Sore throat, Izakovic, Diane Harvey, and probably many others know this whole story, because they are all members of "The Group" which created "Chemtrails Over America", and the two "Spotlight" articles.
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Jay
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zoobie555
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Wed Jan 08, 2003 6:55 am
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I remember seeing X's in the sky over Helena, Montana as early as the early-to-mid eighties. Mabye 84 at the latest. No 'basket weaving' cirular paterns, or any really bizzare behavior. But still, 2 to 4 chemtrails in either an X formation, or sometimes parallel and last a half hour or longer just seemed unusual to me even though I was not yet 10 years old. I was a curious child and spent a lot of time laying on the lawn looking up at the sky, most jets left short contrails behind them that lasted from 10-45 seconds, these others just seemed out of place to me even at such a young age. If seen the results of the "What year did you first witness a chemtrail" question and noticed that while most people did not see them until around '98 that there were a few who did, other than myself, in the early to mid 80's, but that the time frame from the late 80's until at the mid 90's virtually no one began seeing them? Were the 'chemtrail' chemicals tested in the 80's and then not used again until the mid to late 90's? Maybe initial testing was done in limited semi-rural areas. There is a lot of blue sky and a few large military bases in MT, a good place to test....
I'd be interested in hearing other comments about the mid 80's timeframe, if anyone else had seen the chemtrails then.
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roman
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Location: Marietta Ohio USA |
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Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:38 am
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Hi Zoobie555, I was watching a movie just yesterday on the Sifi channel. Capracorn 1 made sometime in the late 70s or early 80s.It is a thriller about NASA covering up a botched space mission. the movie wasn't that great but it did show a lot of sky with lots of trails .most in the last hour of the movie. I too think that they have been running this program for a while. roman... |
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Fibromaniq
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Location: Right behind you Red |
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Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:51 pm
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We got away from the Oral History aspect of this thread a bit.
I want to add my two [scents] worth -
The American and British had an agreement with Canada to test the biological weapons in Canada. This provides Canada with protection of the U.S. And Britian, in exchange for the wide open spaces to test these things.
"Meant to diable, not kill" concotions were sprayed over Alberta Canada from 1958 to 1969, a report issued last summer said.
This was also done over Bellville, and in Florida [to test in warm climates]. Alberta [Suffield] provided the cold climate testing obviously.
I have much more detail, but will resist unless someone asks.
#2 eg. is the hail suppression cloud seeding that went on over Penhold Alberta in the 60s and 70s. It worked well to suppress hail damage, but was officially discontinued by 1980 or so. Tha does not mean the more sinister spraying with intent was stopped - it expanded, but I have no official info on that. Thats where Chemtrails Central comes in, where we can figure out what they are doing by ourselves. And we ARE!!
Dos this add to our history base, or is is just off base? I believe these programs are the basis for the science and applications of what we are seeing now.
And I know that many people were infected with the Crystaline Brucella Mycoplasma, an agent intended to "disable, not kill".
Is SARS another example?
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