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msu94
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quote:
Originally posted by Hornblower:
"hey have them there X's here all the time...I'm sure you euros have some type of VOR or TAF or whatever that planes gotta cross at for positioning..."
So why is it that only in the past few months, one is able to see them (with the naked eye) and in 95F heat?
But there are many pictures of persistent contrails over Europe, especially in the 1940s.
And how does an X mean anything anyways? I have never seen yet explains how an X means chemtrails.
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Hornblower
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Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:08 pm
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"But there are many pictures of persistent contrails over Europe, especially in the 1940s."
I suppose you mean during WWII when there were hundreds of aircraft in the air at the same time? Another suggestion, maybe?
"And how does an X mean anything anyways? I have never seen yet explains how an X means chemtrails."
Well I've seen the X in the sky on a few occasions and ONLY since May 2003 (there's not a great deal of air traffic where I live). If it's not chemtrails, please enlighten me as to WHAT IT IS. I'd really appreciate your view on this phenomenon.
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Feelin Kocky
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Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:31 pm
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>>please enlighten me as to WHAT IT IS. I'd really appreciate your view on this phenomenon.<<
You didn't aske me this but I will give my 2 cents anyway. How about planes simply crossing paths.
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msu94
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Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:22 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Hornblower:
I suppose you mean during WWII when there were hundreds of aircraft in the air at the same time? Another suggestion, maybe?
Okay, but the questions is not numbers of aircraft, but whether trails persisted. And there is no question that there have been these trails happening, ever since aircraft have been able to go that high. If trails did persist then, then either B-17s were part of a mass spraying conspiracy, or the rational that persistent trails means chemicals, has a big hole in it.
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"And how does an X mean anything anyways? I have never seen yet explains how an X means chemtrails."
Well I've seen the X in the sky on a few occasions and ONLY since May 2003 (there's not a great deal of air traffic where I live). If it's not chemtrails, please enlighten me as to WHAT IT IS. I'd really appreciate your view on this phenomenon.
See, that is a major flaw in the chemtrail thinking. In a way you are saying, well prove an X is not spraying, when there has not once been any explanation offered by a chemtrail believer as to how an X would have anything do to with spraying. Can you name name any cropdusting methods or insect control methods that use an X?
You have only seen persistent contrails and intersecting trails recently? They have been around a long time. Just because you just started noticing them, does not mean that is when they first started
Why do X happen? Well planes do cross paths. Are they not supposed to? Would you feel safer if they timed the flights so that trails never intersected?
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theseeker
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:52 am
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dude it can be 95 on the ground...and you can go up 8 miles or so and it is -35...
anyway I have a varied taste in music...wuz in the biz "of" making it possible for people to hear music for about 20 years...
but if you don't have anything available no sweat... |
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Hornblower
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:55 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Feelin Kocky:
You didn't aske me this but I will give my 2 cents anyway. How about planes simply crossing paths.
I can't really see air traffic controllers allowing such dangerous manoeuvers to happen. Isn't that why we have these people (on the ground) making sure planes don't hit each other?
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Hornblower
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:09 am
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Originally posted by msu94:
"See, that is a major flaw in the chemtrail thinking. In a way you are saying, well prove an X is not spraying, when there has not once been any explanation offered by a chemtrail believer as to how an X would have anything do to with spraying."
You're not a chemtrail believer and you offer no explanation yourself. Very funny, guy!
"Can you name name any cropdusting methods or insect control methods that use an X?"
As if cropdusters operate at 35'000 feet? Yeah, right!
"You have only seen persistent contrails and intersecting trails recently? They have been around a long time."
Turbo-prop man makes killer statement!
"Just because you just started noticing them, does not mean that is when they first started."
What's that supposed to mean, Arizona Junior?
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Hornblower
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:13 am
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quote:
Originally posted by theseeker:
anyway I have a varied taste in music...wuz in the biz "of" making it possible for people to hear music for about 20 years...
RADIO FREE ALBEMUTH? 
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:00 am
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all search returns nil.... |
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Hornblower
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:33 am
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Seeker, I got carried away there. It was a private joke that somehow escaped my fingers and landed on the keyboard!
If you give me a few examples of the music you like, perhaps I'll grant you your request and indicate a P2P site where you can find my "noise".
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:18 pm
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so private only you and amazon.com know eh ?
like I said it varies...
right now I'm kinda going down memory lane with some dio...current bands static x's wisconsin deathtrip is a fav...sprinkle in some floyd, rush, scorpions, talk talk, alice in chains, deep purple, jeff beck, ramones, the police, tom petty, barry manilow and sinatra...oh yeah some blues brothers...
got a cluey huey ?
yeah...huey lewis and the news too...
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Hornblower
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:40 pm
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so private only you and amazon.com know eh ?
That's about right. I'm just an amateur.
"current bands static x's wisconsin deathtrip is a fav...sprinkle in some floyd, rush, scorpions, talk talk, alice in chains, deep purple, jeff beck, ramones, the police, tom petty, barry manilow and sinatra...oh yeah some blues brothers...yeah...huey lewis and the news too..."
Well apart from the slurpy stuff, although I do like some Barry Manilow (...), we do have quite a few bands in common. I once was a big fan of Deep Purple (saw them live 3 times), Talk Talk (saw them live), Jeff Beck (saw him live twice), the Police and early Pink Floyd. I only recently discovered Rush (great stuff) and Alice in Chains and have listened to Tom Petty and Huey Lewis. My main influences would be Weather Report, Miles Davis (live), Jimi Hendrix (live), Earth, Wind & Fire and Led Zeppelin (live). The years fly by, eh Seeker?  |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:55 am
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there's no slurpy stuff there chief...and yes them years are a flyin...faster now than ever before...
where's the p2p for your noise ? |
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Hornblower
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:30 pm
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Originally posted by theseeker:
there's no slurpy stuff there chief...and yes them years are a flyin...faster now than ever before...
I had the impression things were slowing down?
where's the p2p for your noise ?
There is no P2P for my [industrial] noise. I don't use computers for music distribution.
Don't worry about it. You've heard it all before.
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