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PieMonster
Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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Scary/Amazing video: Chemspary system test UP CLOSE!
 Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:11 pm
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http://www.everzone.org/down/highaltitudedrop.wmv
This is the first time EVER I've seen anything like this... it's a video of a 747 dropping a large volume of chem "stuff" in a several seconds' period... obviously some sort of test of the system, since normally it would be spraying it over a long period of time.
Scary times we live in... |
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Mech
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:08 pm
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Ummmmmm..
That's a FUEL DUMP. Did you even notice that the trail DISAPPEARED?
Are you an evergreen employee posting this to make fun of CT activists or something?
I don't buy it for one second. |
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PieMonster
Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:46 am
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I think you jump to conclusions too quickly... just like the debunkies. Let's try to not be like them. It could be anyhing -- maybe a new chemical that disappears... or just some other type of test. If there is one thing I can tell you, is that it's not good news for our skies.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PieMonster on 04-08-2004] |
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adam
Joined: 02 Apr 2004
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Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:46 am
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Darn!
I so need a real PC! This crappy little '95 lap top don't got the nuts to load it! Guess I'll have to sway with Mech, considering the aircraft carriers he used to mop! Wasn't that you Mech? While Bhang was in Cali. bars pickin' up two girls at a time on his B'day, member? I don't know about some of the debunker minds. Even in this little town where I've been living almost two years now. They've never even looked up enough to notice anything while they were fishin'! I got about a hand full to start watchin' a little bit. How is it possible not to see something that is smacking you straight in the face? Now if this newbee can see your stats, and is questioning whether or not you're jumping to conclusions, but I see 2 posts connected to the user name, I think you might beee right. I might beee wrong. I guess the proof is in the posts...
adam / kevinalfred / antihaarpmon
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adam
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Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:36 am
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I'm sorry Pie Monster,
You've been a member since Oct. 2003?
This is the first time you decided to post something? Did you somehow lose all your posts in the blacout? I was just wondering.
adam / kevinalfred / antihaarpmon / 4/8/04
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PieMonster
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Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:28 am
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I've just been lurking most of the time, and my few posts got wiped out. I have had little to contriute myself to the discussions, until now. I am just so saddened to see this kind of stuff going on in our skies, but at the same time am glad we are making progress in our quest for the revelation of the truth. |
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halva2
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Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:56 pm
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What signs of progress do you see? |
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emfx13
Joined: 25 May 2002
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Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:20 pm
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It is a fuel dump.
quote:
What signs of progress do you see?
The amount of people that are becoming aware is growing daily, that to me is progress alone. |
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Sore Throat
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Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:40 am
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While this MAY be a fuel dump (no evidence why this is confirmed), the video does provide extremely graphic evidence for a CAPABILITY for massive atmospheric DUMPS.
Can you imagine what these "releases" migh look like?
And say such releases where "staggered" over an expanse of sky.
Wouldn't each isolated release look like a "cloud".
If not, why not?
If long linear lines, or worse yet, checkerboard patterns, raise too much concern, maybe such releases that would give an appearance of "clouds" would be deemed to be more acceptable.
Evergreen's "Super Tanker":
http://www.evergreenaviation.com/supertanker/index.html
Key Quote: "The Supertanker’s significant loiter time will allow it to place a single large drop or various segmented drops at multiple intervals while in flight. This allows the aircraft to fight multiple fires on a single mission. And, depending on the mission's requirements, the Supertanker’s versatile application system will disperse retardant under high pressure, for an overwhelming response, or drop retardant equivalent to the speed of falling rain."
Just what is the government connection with Evergreen:
http://www.columbusalive.com/2001/20010809/080901/08090108.html
http://www.bobkarolrico-informant.com/13.html
And here's some earlier Evergreen discussion from this forum:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000125-2.html
[Edited 5 times, lastly by Sore Throat on 04-09-2004] |
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MRC_Hans
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:02 pm
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It is not a fuel dump. The fuel tanks of an airliner are situated in the wings, and the drop nozzles are there too, normally at the trailing edge of the wing at the root of engine nacelles.
The video is of a plane dumping something, probably a firefighter plane, although firefighter drops are often red or yellow due to chemicals added to increase the extinguisher effect. Judging from the look of the ground and the clouds, the plane is at maybe 10,000ft or possibly less. Also, it is going quite slow, notice the nose-up attitude and the partly extended flaps; this ship is going maybe 170kts.
The clip IS interesting to those of you who believe that people are dropping chemicals on you. THIS is what it looks like if somebody wants to drop something that will actually reach the ground in a way they have the slightest control of: A plane going low and slow and dumping a cascade of fluid (or whatever) during a short time.
If I were ever to see THAT over my town, I would get on the phone and start asking questions, first to the local authorities, and if that did not yield something sensible, to the press.
Hans
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Mech
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:07 pm
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Uh...Hans...it is VERY possible it is a fuel Dump.
Aircaft have something called LOW POINTS to take fuel samples from.
Could very well be that the aircraft was OVERFILLED.
OR
It is simply a new type of modified firefighting aircraft...although Ive never heard of a Boeing 747 being used for that purpose.
It would be pretty frightening to see a boeing 747 coming over your head at above treetop level in the middle of the woods doing 170 knots.
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MRC_Hans
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:53 pm
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I'm sure they have, but that is not a sample, that is a thousand gallons or so being dumped in seconds  . That takes some heavy piping and pumps.
The homepage of the arline in question is actually advertizing fire-fighter 747s.
It shure would look scary. ..And I never saw it. Still, 170 is slow for a 747. Not much above landing speed. Cruise speed is upwards of 400.
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Sore Throat
Joined: 01 Sep 2000
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Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:39 pm
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Hans,
Please note that it's the Evergreen site that describes their video as "High Altitude Drop".
http://www.everzone.org/down/highaltitudedrop.wmv
Again I ask, If there was such a release of "fluid" (note that I am not saying fuel), what would that look like from the ground?
Remember, it's cold up there.
Why wouldn't this appear as a "cloud"?
And by the way, I agree, we're talking hundreds, if not thousands of gallons, being released in the video clip.
And I would also agree, there's some very expensive onboard plumbing and pumps.
So let's at least conclude that the "capability" to artifically create high altitude clouds does exist within an agency that has a known history of contracting with the CIA.
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts ...Hans"
Not MY FACTS Hans, ...just The FACTS!
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Sore Throat on 04-11-2004] |
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MRC_Hans
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:25 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Sore Throat:
Hans,
Please note that it's the Evergreen site that describes their video as "High Altitude Drop".
Yeah, I noticed. But what is "high altitude" in this context?
Again I ask, If there was such a release of "fluid" (note that I am not saying fuel), what would that look like from the ground?
It would look much like on the video (and other videos and shots on the same site): A big cascade going DOWN. It might look like the rain from a shower-cloud, without the cloud.
Remember, it's cold up there.
And?
Why wouldn't this appear as a "cloud"?
It might look like a cloud to the casual observer. However, there is not ONE of the many "chemtrail" shots I have seen on the web that shows this kind of release. Can you find any?
And by the way, I agree, we're talking hundreds, if not thousands of gallons, being released in the video clip.
And I would also agree, there's some very expensive onboard plumbing and pumps.
Yeah, that is a plane with some specialized installations on board, not your average airliner. I'd guess the carrying capacity of a 747 is upwards of 50 tons!
So let's at least conclude that the "capability" to artifically create high altitude clouds does exist within an agency that has a known history of contracting with the CIA.
Uhh, yes. Contrails are also artificial hight altitude clouds. And?
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts ...Hans"
Not MY FACTS Hans, ...just The FACTS!
Certainly. Just the facts  .
Hans
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