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tachyon
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Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:29 am
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The Sr-75 compliments of groomlake....
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/street_scholar_nsa/detail?.t ok=phOF.QBB5cjSIWOW&.dir=/4022&.dnm=a92e.jpg&.src=ph
Sell, why sell such a picture... it's true value lays within debunking those who attempt to debunk the truth. Feel free to take this image to any photo-chop-shop you wish. It's 100 percent authentic, captured within the boundaries of the groom dry lake bed. (Otherwise known as area 51 or dreamland for DTIC dummies like yourself, MSU.)
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msu94
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Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:33 am
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Yes I know what Groom Lake is, I have known people that have spent a bit of time there, and I have always had an interesting in goings on there.
And yes, not a real picture. Somehow a plane like that, at low level, with the plane coming thru clouds that are thousands of feet above the ground.
I see you did not want to defend your SR-71B statements, which even someone else saw was wrong. One of my friends was a Recce systems operator in those, A model of course
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Wolf_Larson

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Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:08 pm
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quote: Originally posted by tachyon:
First of all the word is 'through' not thru. Soundwaves travel through 'everything', not just water and air. Do I think sattelites transmit ELF, VLF, ULF or XLF? Technically no, but actually yes. Apparently you know nothing about the transduction of energy. Do you think electricity and light cycle at the same rate? OF course not, but electicity can produce light. Now, do the Crystal KH xmissions cycle at the speed of sound, no, but their xmissions are ultimately reliant on the transduction to 'soundwaves'. Without this technology there would be no 'crystal keyhole". It's really a simple concept for even a layman to understand. However, it's difficult to describe to a belligerant and subjective person such as yourself. Just let me know and I will put it in physical equations for you.
LOL thanks a lot tachyon, now I have to clean my monitor after spraying coffee all over it from laughing so hard.
That is the most amusing post I have read in a while.
Oh, and please do put it into equations. I would really like to see those. |
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tachyon
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Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:58 am
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quote: And yes, not a real picture. Somehow a plane like that, at low level, with the plane coming thru clouds that are thousands of feet above the ground
LOL, those clouds are not clouds. Have you ever observed a jet accelerate beyond the speed of sound....?? apparently not. I feel bad to inform you that those are not clouds per se... it's called a vapor cone effect. What you see in this picture is a massive flow visualization by condensation. The sr-75 can travel well beyond the speed of sound at any given altitude, and this picture taken at groomlake shows the awesome condensational effects of such physical power.
Wolf_Larson:
I'd be happy to put the transdction of satcom frequency into ELF into physical equation for you. All I need is your e-mail adress as I cannot properly write such equations in ascii on this forum. i would be happy to send you such elementary equations in a word document or you can go to any of the thousands of .edu physics sights and view them directly. As i've mentioned before the transduction of energy has become something that should be taught to 7th graders. Perhaps you skipped class that week?
p.s. only a complete idiot would spill their coffee on a monitor.... and if you drink coffee you're probably just another deadbeat with some redundant desk-job. Heh. Truth hurts, doesn't it.
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msu94
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Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:41 pm
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quote: Originally posted by tachyon:
LOL, those clouds are not clouds. Have you ever observed a jet accelerate beyond the speed of sound....?? apparently not. I feel bad to inform you that those are not clouds per se... it's called a vapor cone effect. What you see in this picture is a massive flow visualization by condensation. The sr-75 can travel well beyond the speed of sound at any given altitude, and this picture taken at groomlake shows the awesome condensational effects of such physical power.
The kind of condensation you are alleging, either comes from shock waves, or transonic airflow, or neither of which is in that photo.
Yes I know what it looks like, and I have photos and videos of the occurance. Its isnt something that is a common occurance either, nor do aircraft have to go supersonic for it.
And if that kind of plane actually does exist, is it certainly not flown at low level since that defeat the purpose of recce. SR-71 certainly was not able to go supersonic down low.
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tachyon
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Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:07 am
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Many prototypes are flown at low altitude within area 51. The reasons for this are obvious. They don't have much space to work with regarding covert aviation... considering the speed of such craft. Logic, critical thinking.... what ever happened to that? |
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msu94
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Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:53 am
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Yes logic and critical thinking is why one can deduce those kinds of aircraft would not be low level, or even if it was, you would not be on the ground there for a photo, or and even then, you would not see if coming and have time to get a camera out.
And its pretty clear that photoshop image also used an SR-71 fuselage to make the composite
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tachyon
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Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:17 am
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Obviously this picture was taken in anticipation of it's overpass or flyby. That's why 'the' person who 'was' there was in place to capture it. I suppose you think I snuk into groom lake and took this picture with a disposable camera. As I had said, so much for any type of logic on your part. LOL.
Furthermore, this image has never been introduced to such benign adobe applications. Now a simple logical question for you... would the fuselage of an sr-71 differ from that of an advanced but family class prototype? Obviously not. That picture is 100% real and if your doubts are so strong then I encourage you to seek the expertise of a professional imaging analyst. Even regarding the sr-71, it could accomplish great spead no matter what altitude. The fact is I have offered much more 'substance' to support my claims than you have. You just continue with your inate rants.... until you get any type of evidence that either
a. supports that the picture is fake (which it is NOT)
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b. cite some type of logical or informative official source, aside from your own biased opinion....
I have no reason to further peddle around with you.
You are free to believe what you want... this is not an issue of belief, but of reality.
Aside from the fact at what f@#$% altitude is the vapor cone effect or visual condesation most occurent at??? Low altitudes. By golly, you don't say. Perhaps it's simply time you be a humble little debunker and admit the facts as they are presented.
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tachyon
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Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:35 am
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P.S. to Thermit:
I petition that this thread be moved to either the Science, othertrails, or advance aircraft thread as even the original topic has no logical relation to chemtrials. |
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msu94
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Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:11 pm
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So tell us then what great speed the SR-71 is capable of if it was theortically at low level?
So they just happened to know exactly where this plane would be and had a camera out and waiting? And if it was going supersonic, the photo would have some blurryness because of the speed...And those are still most definitely clouds.
Just like your SR-71B sillyness and your "Geographic telemetry" haha, and satellites using sound
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billder

Joined: 02 Feb 2002
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Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:01 am
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Banned---you've got a lot of reading to do...many authors use exceprts from other books to highlight their writings...you are really out of it...so name dropping is better than investigation to you, eh? Eastlund is not aware of a lot of the MAJESTIC use his invention (TESLAS INVENTION) is being put to by NWO...Yeah, I like your name, it fits.
Keyhole is a generic term for overhead surveillance---the keyhole satellites are OLD and EXPENSIVE...auroral transmission and reception is cheap mobile and until I came along, covert. Pissed right in their wheaties I did. Public Record Here: On My Gravestone put: BILL GALLAGHER---I COST THE NWO BILLIONS...should be soon too!
As to moving the thread, it STARTED as chemtrail, then it loox like the OHS came to roost, paid disinfo artists...lost their oil jobs, now wreaking havoc (Or trying to) for their boy george...
And Tachy, you ain't nothin' but tacky...I have 3000 pix of chemtrail ops from the last three years...you may not find them interesting, but BELIEVE ME, many people do....
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tachyon
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Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:51 am
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All I can do is laugh at these posts. Neither one addresses me but only makes inaccurate implications regarding my identity. What ever happened to logic and/or substance? I see no reason to waste my time 'attempting' to address the irate claims of such antagonist. Whenever your ready to deal with facts, you just let me know. I don't rely on the internet to do my research.
Hey Bilder, perhaps you can explain how scalars work? Maybe you could elaborate a little on tensors too? Perhaps you can put it all in algebraic equations for me so I can understand that which was created by the works of Telsa, Einstein and Maxwell.....
p.s. you don't know a damn thing about auroral stimulation. Just because you have several pictures of jet contrails does not make you a scientist. Avoiding any type of true science by posting antagonistic quips does nothing to help your fraudulent cause. Maybe we can get you into a program. Heh.
Msu, you are like a broken record. You simply keep inciting accusations of which you cannot prove. Again I have offered way more evidence than to support my claims. I'm sure it's easy to relate me to some completely off the wall imposter, but what would be difficult for a numbskull like you is to engage me directly. I grow tired of you hiding behind your falsifications.
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tachyon
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Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:01 am
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p.s. it is a true case of classic paranoia when a chemmie blindly points to the office of homeland security regarding any type of disagreement.
I would love to engage in an elaborate debate with bilder regarding any type of apparatus that deals with norther or southern arrays designed to alter the atmosphere. Bilder claims that he is the one that brought the public acclaimation to such intrepid technology. This is simply one of the most amusing things I've heard in my entire life. I would be suprised if Bilder could name 3 out of the 50 plus such installations which make up this elaborate network of interatmospheric transmissions. I'll even give him one, which is the only one he knows... HAARP. ROFL. |
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tachyon
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Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:18 am
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Oh yes of course... the thread...
Now how exactly does the KH class of satellites relate to chemtrail science, Bilder? I am asking you, not some off the wall conspiracy sight from which you so gladly copy and paste which you do not understand, then go on to cite anyone who disagrees with you to be disinformation artists. I mean what a character. So, I will be anticipating your enlightening response in regard to the keyhole sats and how exactly they tie into the chemtrail issue (which in my opinion isn't even an issue.)
Also, Again, how did these satellites get the nickname 'keyhole'? ANybody? I thought a keyhole allows you to see through doors... not the earths atmosphere? Hold on, brb.....
well I just looked through a keyhole on a door in my house..... I didn't see any chemtrails. ??@!@@?? |
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billder

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Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:15 am
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Ooohhh...you really are tacky tachy....spent some years in huntsville alabama doing research, if you understand what that means, ya dingbat, and I read incessantly....I write most of the stuff I post, and if you are insinuating I plagiarize I could show you my professional portfolio, but I would rather tell your small little self to go straight to hell...oops....now I am tacky too....get away from me man, your stink is rubbin' off...sure, I know quite a little bit about scalar , QED too, and I like Anti-mass stuff and Anti Grav stuff a LOT, but I do not feel so small inside myself that I have to go around spouting idiocy trying to drum up a following...there is plenty that is right b4 our eyes that people do not get, why confuse the issue and them? I do not need to feel superior, because, unlike you, I like myself...ever heard of DEW tacky? I think they are hittin' you hard bro, scramblin your brains...for all your smarts, you are pretty naive...good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for.
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