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billder
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At the risk of making the man mad i will post the info here...how hard is it to follow a link and READ the stuff? I guess it is a lot easier to just be argumentive....ozone depletion mitigation means: fixing holes in the ozone, btw, and this most knowledgeable author agrees its a bunch of make work to keep money pumping to the contractors and military...
The Welsbach Refractory Seeding under unrestricted deployment operations began in the early 1990's over a vast area of Stratosphere above the North American Continent. (HAARP HOME PAGE: [url=http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp)]http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp)[/url] Expanding over the entire western hemisphere, many operations were believed to have been enjoined in ************************Ozone Depletion Mitigation Aerial operations ***********of the US Air Force, connected to the HAARPs (High Frequency Active Aural Research Project) for Ionospheric Heating, located in Alaska ) Ozone Remediation was 1 of 3 active mission parameters for HAARPs, as defined by Dr. Bernard Eastlund, Inventor and Director of HAARPs. The Ionospheric Heating Research Facility was manned and operated by the US Air Force (Reserve) and the US Navy. HAARPs had been weaponized; therefore, all operations were and remain classified.
http://www.wnho.net/methodic_demise.htm |
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fortis
Joined: 05 May 2004
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Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:14 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by billder:
At the risk of making the man mad i will post the info here...how hard is it to follow a link and READ the stuff?
I've previously followed your link, but not found any of the evidence that you suggest is there.
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I guess it is a lot easier to just be argumentive....ozone depletion mitigation means: fixing holes in the ozone, btw, and this most knowledgeable author agrees its a bunch of make work to keep money pumping to the contractors and military...
Still haven't found any claim by the government that this is what they are trying to do.
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The Welsbach Refractory Seeding under unrestricted deployment operations began in the early 1990's over a vast area of Stratosphere above the North American Continent.
Googled on "Welsbach" and "refractory seeding" and came up with only two responses www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=49654
and www.wnho.net/methodic_demise.htm
Neither site seems to have any kind of government claim that they are actively using this the remediate any ozone, or global warming problem.
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(HAARP HOME PAGE: [url=http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp)]http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp)[/url] Expanding over the entire western hemisphere, many operations were believed to have been enjoined in ************************Ozone Depletion Mitigation Aerial operations ***********of the US Air Force,
There is no claim by the government that any ozone mitigation operations are being carried out. If there is, then it must be in a very small font. 
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connected to the HAARPs (High Frequency Active Aural Research Project) for Ionospheric Heating, located in Alaska ) Ozone Remediation was 1 of 3 active mission parameters for HAARPs, as defined by Dr. Bernard Eastlund, Inventor and Director of HAARPs. The Ionospheric Heating Research Facility was manned and operated by the US Air Force (Reserve) and the US Navy. HAARPs had been weaponized; therefore, all operations were and remain classified.
If you actually look on the HAARP link quoted in the previous bit, you find
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HAARP is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defense purposes.
The only bit related to ozone depletion is the following line
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In addition, diagnostics installed at the HAARP facility will be useful for a variety of other research purposes including the study of global warming and ozone depletion
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/hPurpose.html
Please notice that it says "study", not "remediation".
So, still no evidence that the governemnt is claiming that chemtrails are its attempt to fix the ozone hole. 
Even though myself and Halva are at opposite ends of the spectrum on the existence of chemtrails, we can still agree that "One of the govt lies concerning chemtrails is as a shield against UV" is incorrect because the governments isn't even making those claims in the first place. |
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halva
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
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Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:35 am
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quote:
Originally posted by billder:
[B]At the risk of making the man mad i will post the info here...how hard is it to follow a link and READ the stuff? I guess it is a lot easier to just be argumentive....ozone depletion mitigation means: fixing holes in the ozone, btw, and this most knowledgeable author agrees its a bunch of make work to keep money pumping to the contractors and military...
Be that as it may, Mike Castle, the author cited by Billder, agrees with the strategy of using the 'holes-in-the-ozone' argument as a lever for interrogating climate scientists who have put forward or floated 'geoengineering' ideas.
He is currently participating in an attempt to do precisely that with the Tyndall Centre.
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billder
Joined: 02 Feb 2002
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Location: pasco county fl |
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Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:46 pm
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Discussion is good. I sure hope i do not come off as a know-it-all...i do get caught up in the chase and get a little cuh-razy sometimes, but i surely do not understand a lot of what is going on, and like most folx here am just trying to figure it out too...i have read so much stuff many times it takes me weeks to go back and find a reference...I have heard a lot of stuff on the street, from joe citizen, and many of the excuses THEY have been given concerning chemtrails are holes in the ozone repair, and rainmaking, and what have you....i do not think you will ever get any real evidence from the government concerning this, i mean, they are not going to come out and say oh yeah we dump 40 tons of particulate in the atmosphere ever day in an effort to rebuild the atmosphere which we killed doing haarp experiments...no....i do not think that will ever happen...and i hope that is not what you are looking for...the whole problem with chemtrails is that they have been denied, blatantly denied, and we can see with our own eyes that they are real...good luck....b. |
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halva
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Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:51 am
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When the Tyndall Centre had their 'macroengineering' conference last January, the publicity given to it by the Guardian, BBC. etc, made it look as if they were attempting 'a limited hangout' on chemtrails. It seemed worthwhile trying to follow up on how much they really wanted to hang out.
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