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billder
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Holes in the Holes-In-The-Ozone Argument
 Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:47 pm
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One of the govt lies concerning chemtrails is as a shield against UV....this is being fervently perped now that a lot of people are waking up...problem is, the holes were caused by HAARP experimentation in the first place, and CFC's, just like el nino and global warming, is just a cover story to hide the govts complicity in this global vandalism. Another lie is that they are patching holes in the ozone with chemtrails....notice, now that they are caught, they are going right from debunking to explanation? Holes in the ozone are part of the WEAPONRY of the system and have been photographed for over 25 years now, since the russians starting doing it to us back in the 70's...not just holes in the ozone either, but actually diminishment of entire portions of the atmosphere...irradiation, comrades, right on your HEAD....finally, the way to fix ozone is to make more ozone...how?...lightning....a very easy thing to do with HAARP, and it HAS been done, although don't tell anyone because thats still secret har har har....chemtrailing is WEAPONRY being used to weaken and make ill the people so that by time they realize whats going on, its too late...it seems to be working well, too.
HOW A CHUNK OF IONOSPHERE WAS BLOWN OUT TO SPACE
By Dan Eden
Dan Eden, Viewzone editor, describes his visit to HAARP facility in Fairbanks
in 1998.
Here is the excerpt in which one of the HAARP operators at that time describes
how part of the ionosphere was blown out into the space. Not only once.
Part 9 http://www.viewzone.com/tells-all9.html
Quote:
"Dave was in the 'com'- the command center of the heater. He worked with the
primary transmitter or generator. I mainly worked on the feeder lines on the
farm... the antenna farm. We were both there when they bumped the power up to
the max and let it blow. I mean, we went from thousands of watts to like
billions! And that's when the s**t hit the fan."
Jonas unfolded some graph paper with a blue trace line on it. There were
several sharp peaks over the timeline and then a spike with a long plateau
that was obviously off the chart. I didn't know what I was looking at but
Jonas tried to make it simple.
"Look. Here is where they are heating the ionosphere - and here too. Now you
can see that it is absorbing more power each time. And then here is when they
switched it to max. And somewhere up here, off the paper, is when it happened.
The whole ionosphere got blown out into space and made one big f**king hole."
Nicki piped in, "Those monsters! They f**ked it up to play with their toy and
made a hole in the sky!"
I was puzzled. "I don't get it. What are you saying here?"
"They never used that much power before so they just did it to see what would
happen. Do you follow me? And when they did it kind of multiplied the power
and then a huge chunk of Earth's atmosphere blew away, out into space. Gone.
Poof. History." Jonas pulled another graph from the box. "Here. Look at the
ultraviolet and radiation the came through right after they did it. They blew
away the shield and all the radiation just came right down and zapped Earth.
And look. It lasted for a long time!"
"Twice! Tell him about the other one." Nicki was getting excited. She kept
peaking through the eye hole of her apartment door, then returning.
"Yeah. Like after that happened they did it again. A few months later they did
it again - can you believe that? And this time they used even more power and
destroyed even more of the atmosphere. We're talking about huge chunks, like
thousands of miles wide!"
"Well, did anyone die or get hurt from this?" I was already trying to distance
myself from the emotions I felt and began slipping into my journalistic way of
thinking.
"S**t, yes. Here in Alaska there were Eskimos that were all fried and like
whole herds of antelopes. But the holes also moved West and did their real
harm in Siberia. But it isn't just the people it killed. It made these people
and animals sick from the radiation that came from the Sun - the stuff that's
usually blocked by the atmosphere - and so there have been still births and
cancers and mutations. They are trying to keep it all real hushed. It's
insane. And the worst part is that they are going to test it again!"
End quote.
http://www.deepspace4.com GET THE BOOK BY JERRY E SMITH ---- HAARP:ULIMATE WEAPON OF THE CONSPIRACY
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Bernard Eastlund, Inventor of HAARP (High Frequency Active AURORAL Research program), from his Patent # 4,686,605;...By altering solar absorption...weather modification is possible... for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device...A moving plume could also serve as a means for focusing a vast amount of sunlight on selected portions of the Earth...Still further, plumes in accordance with the present invention can be formed to simulate and/or perform the same functions as performed by detonation of a Heave; type nuclear device without actually having to detonate such a device...
Bernard Eastlund, Inventor of HAARP (High Frequency Active AURORAL Research program), from his Patent # 4,686,605 ...This invention relates to a method and apparatus for altering at least one selected region normally existing above the Earths surface...by initially transmitting electromagnetic radiation from the Earths surface... ...By altering solar absorption...weather modification is possible... for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device...A moving plume could also serve as a means for focusing a vast amount of sunlight on selected portions of the Earth...HIGH INTENSITY, WELL CONTROLLED ELECTRICAL FIELDS CAN BE PROVIDED IN SELECTED LOCATIONS FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES...
www.luxefaire.com/electro.html
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fortis
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Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:30 am
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This is perhaps a silly question, but I'm not afraid to look stupid. 
Anyhow, when did government claim that they were using chemtrails to patch up the ozone layer? (I'm not talking about some kind of feasibility report, I'm talking about them saying that that is what they are doing now.)  |
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billder
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Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:24 am
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Hello. There is a whole layer of disinfo prepared by the NWO, in case heavy hitters start to ask questions, and that what is happening right now...doctors, lawyers, calling their congressmen...fortunately they can see that they are being lied to, for the most part, and are reacting...I visit many different CT sites, and carnicom.com and radarmatrix are both pretty good too...DEFINITELY see my next post by Amy Worthington...you will understand a lot then....Here is just one sampling of a certain researcher:
http://www.wnho.net/methodic_demise.htm
Ozone-Hole Remediation - The composition most notably utilized in Ozone-hole patching is elemental Selenium and an Aromatic Hydrocarbon such as Toluene (Benzene component of Gasoline) and mixed isomers of Xylene. Sprayed from Stratospheric flying Aircraft, films of this toxic mixture fall into the area just above the Troupopause, the Ozone Layer. Ozone or triatomic Oxygen forms rapidly upon the irradiation of the Selenium and the Hydrocarbon with Ultra-Violet/Actinic sunlight. This is the identical photon/chemical reaction that causes Ozone Alert Days and is problematic. The solid-state reaction of Selenium and Ultra-violet radiation is the same as the reaction that occurs during Xerography. Copy machines generate minute amounts of Ozone when the Selenium Toners are irradiated with UV light sources.
The US/NASA TOMS (Total Ozone Mapping) Satellites have verified these Ozone Patching operations that occur principally over the northern sectors of the North American Continent. We have been studying these phenomena since the early 2000 time line. (TOMS -- Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer: [url=http://toms.gsfc.nasa.gov)14]http://toms.gsfc.nasa.gov)14[/url]
Ground-fall Impacts of Selenium/Aromatic Hydrocarbons - The aromatic Hydrocarbon, when ground fall occurs, (there is substantial evidence that this has repeatedly occurred in the United States and Canada) is causative of Benzene over-exposure. Carcinogenicity of Benzene is known, not suspect. Surface water pollution with Benzene is a continuous threat.
Selenium poisoning is characteristic of most heavy metals including Lead (Pb).
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fortis
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Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:58 pm
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Bilder, thanks for the article and links.
I can see patents and feasibility reports, but I still can't find anywhere that has the government saying that they are deploying chemtrails as a shield against UV. |
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billder
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Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:21 am
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HEY WHY ARE NONE OF THE MODERATORS HERE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH ME???? I HAVE SENT A BUNCH OF EMAILS...THIS IS NOT A CONTEST OVER WHO IS THE BEST ACTIVIST THIS IS THE QUEST FOR TRUTH....sorry....do not even know if they will see that...but have sent bunches of emails and the mech club errrr ctc people have not answered...not a big deal at all really....
UV Mitgation here: http://www.wnho.net/methodic_demise.htm
ALL through that link
and many other places too numerous to list
good luck
b
and many other places...too numerous to list.....b
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fortis
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Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:46 pm
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I was just thinking that if Gov are saying that they are creating chemtrails to fix the ozone hole, then there would be a statement to that effect on a gov. website (or some other form of official statement.)
I'll carry on looking, but so far all I can find are discussion documents about how you might do it if you wanted to, and statements on websites such as this. What we need is a statement by a government official saying something like, "We have started spraying chemicals in the upper atmosphere in order to reduce the hole in the ozone layer." If anyone can point to a statement like this, let me know. |
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JerseyBluEyz
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Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:12 am
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quote:
Originally posted by billder:
HEY WHY ARE NONE OF THE MODERATORS HERE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH ME???? I HAVE SENT A BUNCH OF EMAILS...THIS IS NOT A CONTEST OVER WHO IS THE BEST ACTIVIST THIS IS THE QUEST FOR TRUTH
Hey Billder!!! I'm not sure how long you've been trying to contact the MODS, but it looks like Mech hasn't been around lately - must be busy with personal stuff. FLKook pops in when she has time away from her business. EMFX posts when he's not on the road (he's a musician). That leaves Thermitt, this is his board. I think the other day he said he's moving!?!
SOOOOO, don't get upset, it's just a busy time for all of them right now!!! Maybe you can put a notice in Freeform or Admin Desk - depending on what you're looking for or asking. Keep bumping it daily so that it hits the Active Topics list – someone is bound to see it then!
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JerseyBluEyz
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Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:16 am
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quote:
Originally posted by fortis:
What we need is a statement by a government official saying something like, "We have started spraying chemicals in the upper atmosphere in order to reduce the hole in the ozone layer."
Yeah, wouldn't THAT be nice?
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fortis
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Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:33 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by JerseyBluEyz:
Yeah, wouldn't THAT be nice?
Well, if the government is lying that chemtrails are a response against increased UV (fixing the ozone hole, and all that) then you would have expected that the government would have made a claim to the effect that it was trying to fix the ozone hole using chemtrails. I'm still looking for that claim (it's very possible that it's out there, but I just havene't found it yet), but at the moment it's looking as if the government is being accused of lying about something that it hasn't even claimed to be doing. |
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billder
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Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:19 pm
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this link has all kinds of linx to govt rationalizing schemes to cover the illegal chemtrailing
http://www.wnho.net/methodic_demise.htm
chemtrailing is eugenics, poisoning of soil and air, ULTRA surveillance (Thats a biggie--law enforcement don't ya know) and covert electronic control, but you know as well as I they are not going to admit that...they have carefully crafted stories to cover the science, and those stories include holes in the ozone etc....which are ALL LIES
ozone can be recreated by lightening, which is one of the first positive things HAARP could do...no need for chemtrailing....i have seen the events, I KNOW....so at least a lot of people realize that the govt lies, in the name of defense, which is just another way for them to get away with MURDER legally....THANKS FOR WRITING ABOUT THE MODERATOR SITUATION BTW!!!! No big deal except i was wondering what was going on and no replies to many msgs...
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JerseyBluEyz
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Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:17 pm
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billder: I'm not sure if your last response was directed to me or fortis, just making sure you knew I was being WAY sarcastic with my comment (yeah, wouldn’t that be nice). BTW, that site (WNHO) is full of excellent info! Not sure if I told you that before. |
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billder
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Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:56 pm
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Hi Jerz, naw, I din get it...a little slow in the morns...yeah that website is a goody allright...guy has been busy too...i like it that he says something like "Take Pictures, accumulate EVIDENCE"....I just got settled after three year stint on road doing nothing but....Hey check out this sprayed aurora keyhole/antennae here, a line sprayed, spread, then another line, spreading...heavy energy attax that day, I have been going through all the pix I took, its wild knowing what some of the stuff is now...
from: http://www.luxefaire.com/electro.html
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JerseyBluEyz
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Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:35 am
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Wow billder! Funky shot there! Thanks for posting it! |
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billder
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Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:38 pm
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Thanx Jerz, that month in Deming i took couple hundred pix, about 125 were usable and real weird...i started realizing just how well-planned this PROGRAM of the world government was when I started realizing they had been planning for it for years, making excuses way ahead of time, preparing the populace with the lies about the holes in the ozone, global warming, all that....no doubt there are holes in the ozone---but not from cfcs, but from haarp itself...the first experiments blew out huge pieces of the upper atmosphere in the lifting experiement...they heated the ionosphere, it lifted right out into space to go flying away on the solar wind, and taking other parts of the atmosphere with it...pretty well documented too.....b |
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halva
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Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:06 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by fortis:
I was just thinking that if Gov are saying that they are creating chemtrails to fix the ozone hole, then there would be a statement to that effect on a gov. website (or some other form of official statement.)
I'll carry on looking, but so far all I can find are discussion documents about how you might do it if you wanted to, and statements on websites such as this. What we need is a statement by a government official saying something like, "We have started spraying chemicals in the upper atmosphere in order to reduce the hole in the ozone layer." If anyone can point to a statement like this, let me know.
I haven't seen any such statement, and I think it's a mistake to talk about the hole-in-the-ozone-layer explanation for chemtrails as official disinformation when it is not USED as information, disinformation, or anything else. It is a theory put forward by our side.
It should not just be debunked by our side but also deployed as a tool for interrogating 'respectable' scientists who defend it, not as established practice, but as something 'you might do if you wanted'.
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