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Mech
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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 Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:01 pm
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The only reason why I fear G.W. BUSH more than Clinton is not only because of Bush's ties to big buisness and certain shady characters but more frightening is he is the son of Bush Sr. who from what I have read is probably one of the most evil men living today who is reponsible for some really unbelievable stuff that most people have no idea about.
The Bush family have been monkeying with politics for over 150 years. They stand with the likes of power mad people like the Rothschilds, the Rockafellers, the DuPonts... all of whom are dynasties with an agenda of unaccountable private power.
I am convinced..Bush Sr.(former CIA director) is behind a lot of bad things that have happened over the past 40 years.(Possibly the Kennedy assasination)(Reagan assasination attempt).Never mind his Skull and Bones club affiliation.He is the main reason why I fear G.W. Bush.Now that we have an economy that is rigged on the defense industry, i fear him even more.
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Location: Millbrook, AL, USA |
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Sun Nov 10, 2002 9:42 pm
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Mech:
Boeing's civil airliner division is the company's cash cow. Some of it's military divisions are only marginally profitable, while others actually lose money.
Boeing has done more to strengthen our economy than many other companies in the US. It is not the fiscal leech that you make it out to be.
For example....until the 1990s, Boeing was the WORLDS leading civil aircraft manufacturer in terms of revenue. They designed the 707, which virtually transformed airline service from something only the rich could afford to something obtainable by most Americans. Then came the 747, which did the same for international travel.
Boeing made the commercial aviation business viable. In turn, they spurred the commercial airline business, which in turn boosted the tourism industry.
Imagine if we didn't have Boeing...airline flying wouldn't have changed much from the 1950's....airplanes would continue to cater to small passenger loads, and jet transports would have remained a novelty for the rich. Americans would still be primarily travelling by road or train, and the idea of flying home to see grandma would be met with laughs of "yeah, right...I don't have mounds of cash to waste on that".
Much of our econmy is driven by transportation, and Boeing has a huge share in how our transportation system evolved.
You accuse Boeing of being based on handouts? Surely they have received "corporate welfare"...Boeing execs would be stupid to turn it down. But corporate welfare is as much the fault of the people who hand the money out (the voters) as it is those who spend that money.
Here in Montgomery, everyone's high-fiving each other for "luring" Hyndai, and they did it with a huge corporate welfare package of tax breaks and free development costs. But how could you possibly blame Hyundai? Hey, City A is throwing money at us to build a plant there, whereas City B isn't. Guess who's gonna get the plant?
Anyhow, if you want to point fingers, go take a look at Amtrak and Greyhound...both of which receive huge government handouts, and don't nearly provide much in return. Meanwhile, Boeing not only has given us technology to create an air transportation system second to none, it has also helped make the US the largest and most successful producer of aviation products in the world, bar none.
Amtrak and Greyhound will only give you slow crappy service, and still overcharges. |
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
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Mon Nov 11, 2002 7:23 am
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Going Greyhound is a small of preview of hell, but I've gone coast-to-coast on Amtrak and it was a great experience.
A few things you may not be aware of with regards to Boeing, Pacer...
http://chem11.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=Fight&action=display&num=1017649800
Yeah, yeah... I know. You got break a few eggs if you want to make an omelette, right?
Which is why I took some sound advice and quit picking on them. Knowing what I do, Boeing scares me more than any alphabet agency or extremist terrorist organization out there. These guys don't play slow pitch. |
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zoobie555
Joined: 02 Jan 2003
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Location: Conroe, Texas, USA |
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Sat Jan 04, 2003 4:45 am
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In my opinion, Clinton has done things just as evil and has had and abused just as much power as either Bush, but I don't think there is much difference between a Democrat and a Republican. The only two differences between them is how they get their hands on our money, and which of the 10 amendments of the Bill of Rights they agree with or not.
Sa for Boeing, there are hundreds if not thousands of companies the were either started by or survive on the use of government handouts. I'd rather die a slow and painful death than spend more than 12 hours on a greyhound bus, I'm sure Amtrack is a great experience but when I need to get 2,000+ miles and have limited vacation I can take from work, that's just not feasible. Where would the airline industry be today if it wasn't for Boeing.
OK, now for something more along the line of Chemtrails. Has anyone here ever heard of a company called "ChemJet". I drive past a sign for it from time to time, just a few miles from my house, I think it may be nestled away in the woods a bit though from the main road. I have no idea what it is or what they do, but the name seems just a bit suspicious to me. |
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