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KNOW-THIS
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'Water that isn't wet' (Sapphire)
 Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:04 pm
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http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/04132004_bb_sapphire.html#
Scientists Create "Water" That Isn't Wet
NEW YORK CITY-April 13, 2004 — A new chemical concocted by scientists at the Tyco's Fire and Security Division looks and acts just like water except for one thing... it doesn't get things wet.
IMAGES: Liquid in action on Good Morning America
During Tuesday's Good Morning America, a representative of Tyco Fire and Security displayed the amazing properties of the chemical that's called "Sapphire."
The chemical has all the firefighting properties of water, yet it will not cause the damage to items that is usually associated with water.
As part of a demonstration, Pelton submerged several items into a tank of Sapphire that was on the Good Morning America set. Books did not get wet. Electronics were not be destroyed. Items that were submerged in the liquid were dried in a matter of seconds, and showed no ill effects according to Charles Gibson, Diane Sawyer and other members of the Good Morning America staff who saw items plunged into it.
Charles Gibson/Good Morning America: "It looks like water, but it's not."
The Sapphire is intended to become part of fire suppression systems in buildings. It would automatically be sprayed out of a building's sprinkler system when a fire is detected.
Dave Pelton/Tyco Fire and Security: "This material would protect various artifacts, collections. You could use it in museums, libraries, places of cultural property."
There was a substance that had similar properties produced in the past, but that fire suppression liquid was damaging the ozone layer. The new substance by Tyco is supposed to be environmentally safe.
(Copyright 2004 by WPVI-TV 6 and ABC News. All rights reserved.)
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number77
Joined: 30 Jan 2004
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Sun May 23, 2004 7:45 pm
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i've heard of a water wetter used in race cars |
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Swedishoo
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Sun May 23, 2004 10:24 pm
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Hmmm, they should have named it Saffire.
Gee whiz, who does their advertising?
I need to give them a ring.
Christy
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Swedishoo on 05-23-2004] |
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fortis
Joined: 05 May 2004
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Mon May 24, 2004 12:00 am
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Yup. Saffire would have been a better one. I can only assume that "saffire" trademarks already exist in the world of fire prevention. I know that there is in the UK, a "Saffire UK, ltd" which deals in fire safety and prevention. It may have made it tricky to have sold the product under the Saffire name in the UK. (I'm still waiting for the day when Budvar, brewed in Budejovice, i.e. the original budweiser beer, can be sold as such in the US, and not by the name Czechvar.  ) |
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Swedishoo
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Tue May 25, 2004 12:01 am
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I tried to find out the chemical makeup of Sapphire, but didn't have much luck. Very interesting though. Now, I have heard of making water wetter which is common in wetting agents such as in fabric softener and wallpaper remover...and I've heard of fire retarders using a liquid baking soda base, but apparently this is something different altogether. If anyone finds out what's in this stuff, let me know.
Christy, kitchen chemist, homemade plasmaball princess
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Swedishoo on 05-24-2004] |
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JerseyBluEyz
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Tue May 25, 2004 1:18 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Swedishoo:
Christy, kitchen chemist, homemade plasmaball princess
LOL! That's pretty funny! In answer to your question on the chemical makeup of Sapphire…
This article - http://tampatrib.com/businessnews/MGA9JEP9GTD.html - states: Tyco International claims that it has a fire suppression system that will make the cleanup a snap. The system, called Sapphire, relies on Novec 1230, a fluorine-based chemical made by 3M. The National Fire Protection Association, an association that writes and publishes national fire standards, has deemed Novec to be as effective as existing chemical and gas fire suppressants, without contributing to global warming or depletion of the ozone layer.
IMO fluorine is a poison, although it is officially listed as a “suspected” carcinogen. Interesting enough, the PIS or the MSDS do not list fluorine anywhere!?! Is it a hidden compound as it was in halon? I did not search this out further.
Product Information Sheet for Novec 1230 - http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?cccccc4jvorcx2DcQ2DcccPoJO&CCCCa-
The chemical formula – CF CF2C(O) CF(CF3)2 – this means nothing to me.
Material Safety Data Sheet for Novec 1230 - http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?555555JqkUJv3uXs5Gf7d88uD_C5i7QP8UQ5LWB--
Under section 9 of the MSDS, wherever it referred to VOCs (volatile organic compounds), it states – No Data Available. Why doesn’t it say Not Applicable or None?
For further info, here is the 3M Novec 1230 site - http://cms.3m.com/cms/US/en/2-68/iclcrFR/view.jhtml
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Swedishoo
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Tue May 25, 2004 4:55 am
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Wow, JerseyBlu, you're one hell of a researcher! Good going. I'm embarrassed to say that the Tampa Tribune is my paper and I didn't even see it. Thanks. Interesting compund, and I must agree, sounds like it could be a carcinogen.
Christy |
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