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billder
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Shuttle WAS Carrying Radioactive Materials
 Tue Feb 11, 2003 6:08 pm
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Subject: Re: FWD: SF Chronicle article on Shuttle - latest
Shuttle WAS Carrying Radioactive Materials - TX Sheriff
NASA's Terror, Part Two
By Michael Colby
Food and Water.org
2-6-3
Sadly, my hunch is turning out to be correct. It appears the
Columbia space shuttle did, indeed, have radioactive materials
on board.
In an interview with National Public Radio last night, the
Sheriff of Nacogdoches, Texas, Thomas Kerss, declared the
following: "There was radioactive material on board." Kerss
also declared that all the debris found by the retrieval
operations would be tested for radioactivity.
So there you have it. And you can imagine the anger that NASA
and U.S. military officials are feeling toward Sheriff Kerss
for spilling the nuclear beans to the public.
But it's the Texans that should be the angriest. They are the
ones who have apparently become unwitting guinea pigs to
NASA's madness. They, quite literally, got dumped on.
The fine folks at the Global Network Against Weapons and
Nuclear Power in Space have issued an official Freedom of
Information Request to NASA seeking the " full disclosure of
the type, the amount, and the purpose of radioactive material
on board Columbia."
If the history of NASA is any indication, it won't be easy
getting straight answers. Karl Grossman, the author of the
NASA expose, The Wrong Stuff, has been trying to get infor-
mation from the space agency for years and has been frustrated
every step of the way.
"They lie as much as they breathe," Grossman declared on
Pacifica Radio's "War & Peace Report" last night.
NASA has a sorry history of cover-ups, deceit, and information
obfuscation, making it akin to a wild goose chase just to get
the most basic information about its missions. NASA's trump
card when dodging information predators is to claim "national
security." And given the agencies close knit relationship with
the U.S. military, it's a claim it often gets away with.
But now that the Columbia shuttle has exploded above our heads
and its super-secret-contents have rained down upon us, the
public must be informed about the dangers we're facing. The
nation's health and security is at risk, and it's NASA that
has created this clear and present danger.
If there is anything left of our democracy, now is the time for
it to be tested. NASA and the U.S. military must not be allowed
to hide behind their convenient sheaths of secrecy. The public
must be informed about the dangers that lie ahead, and NASA must
be reined in to meet the goals of the people.
In recent years the world community has made it clear that they
find U.S. arrogance too much to bear. The U.S. has cancelled
international peace and environmental accords; it's used its
military might wherever and whenever it likes; and it's turned
its back on billions of poor, starving, and ill-housed global
citizens.
And now the U.S. wants the world's sympathy for the explosion
of a multi-billion-dollar space toy and its seven astronauts.
Sorry, Mr. Bush, but the U.S. is only looking more arrogant
by the minute.
Unfortunately, much of the world is all too familiar with
explosions -- they usually mean U.S. military warplanes are
on the horizon. Within a matter of weeks it looks like
hundreds and thousands of additional military explosions
will occur in Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe even North Korea.
How is it that we deserve the world's sympathy?
Enough already.
The Bush administration should be magnifying "the pain"
they're feeling from the loss of the seven astronauts by tens
of thousands to get some perspective on how the world feels
about our military-induced explosions. There isn't enough time
for all the memorials these innocent people deserve.
Scary, isn't it, how much terror the U.S. government (our
government!) could wage in one single month? First, it's toxic
and radioactive materials raining down on our innocent heads.
And, next, it's bombs heading for the heads of innocent Iraqis.
Yes, we need to stop terrorism. And we should start with the
terrorism being done in our name.
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You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture, just get people to stop reading them. Bradbury |
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emfx13
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 6:14 pm
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I really did'nt think about that until i read this article..........s!@#!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by emfx13 on 02-11-2003] |
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David
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 6:41 pm
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That is an eye opening article for certain.
If any other country had taken nukes into space and blown up over our heads, the U.S. government would be screaming. Thugs and liars one and all.
I agree wholeheartedly that the terrorist activity the U.S. is engaged in must be brought to a halt and those responsible brought to justice.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by David on 02-11-2003] |
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theseeker
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:45 pm
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hmmm. haven't heard of any radiation sickness yet...the newly proposed spacecraft will be nuclear powered...voyager and the rest were nuclear powered...I don't see what all the huff is about...course then again I ain't a green....
btw david do you know what the sun is ? |
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David
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:04 pm
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You don't? How intelligent of you. The "huff" is because the others did not blow up over our heads possibly spreading radiation. But you know this and just want to cause problems on the board with your assine rebuttals and name calling.
How long has it been seeker, since you actually engaged in meaningful conversation?
And the love monkeys at the zoo do not count. |
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theseeker
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:31 am
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as long as you act like a jackass I will call you one...why would anyone worry (except you) about possible radiation 40 miles above folks heads ?
you did not answer my question david...you never do...
the sun is one great big nuclear reactor...spewing mega tons of radiation out all the time !
those who worry about polluting space with radiation are definitely the STUPIDEST folks on the planet...
btw david....jackass ! |
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Swamp Gas
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:52 am
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Seeker,
72 pounds of plutonium exploding 40 miles up could definitely be a problem, as was the hair-raising launch of Cassini.
Now, an intriguing idea is the space elevator, combined with the use of mass drivers and solar sails. This might be slower, but decelerating astronauts metabolism would be appropriate for longer voyages.
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_020327-1.html
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theseeker
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:01 am
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maybe you could explain to me how this plutonium could be detonated ?
and even if it could be, that high up would be inconsequenial...don't you honestly think ?
you might be surprised but I agree with richard hoagland about many things regarding nasa...I think we are doing "it" the wrong way a billion a flight is too expensive...
the advantages far out weigh the risks....if you ask me...why don't we utilize the moon more...water and air can be made from the moon...craft could be made on the moon...far easier than here...
and it would be a nice place to visit for a few days... |
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David
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:48 am
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"you did not answer my question david...you never do..."
Because seeker, the sun is not the topic of conversation, the shuttle is.
Be realistic for just a moment. The shuttle came down in pieces, it reached the earth, and so could, and most likely did, the plutonium. Would you want your family to come in contact with this stuff? Well, no one else does either seeker, no one.
And why seeker, can't you ever be civil? |
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theseeker
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:13 am
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radiation was the topic...jackass...again has there been any radiation sickness burns etc ?...a week and two days later...and david I can be plenty civil...with civil folks...your not...your crank calling my house for weeks on end...domain searching my internet home and threatening to somehow expose information about my P.O box...stuff like that makes me hate you...and I do david...I really do.
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:28 am
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quote:
...your crank calling my house for weeks on end
You are a damn liar seeker, I have not called your house and have no intentions of doing so.
So I have your IP, big deal, half the damn net does, it's not hard at all to get them. Tell ya what, put a trap on your phone line, get the number, if it's mine, I'll pay you $1,000. But of course you won't do so, because you are a liar,plain and simple.
Further more pal, I never said a word about that number being your box,you did!
Be very, very careful of what you accuse me of seeker. You may not like the results.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by David on 02-12-2003] |
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theseeker
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:47 am
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get the number, if it's mine, I'll pay you $1,000
the calls quit after my post over there about you putting me into a postion of distributing the info gathered so far to the authorities...and btw...if I thought you had the money I would do so...
I'm not going to argue david your the budding stalker here...
and you just better hope your sword's bigger than mine... |
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David
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:54 am
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Oh, so now you are calling the cops on me. How pathetic seeker, you are turning into a regular jay reynolds.
I have done nothing to you and you know it.
If you thought I had the money, what a cop out, you are lying through your teeth, you cannot and will not prove I have called your home because I have not.
You are pissed off and making false claims against me.
quote:
I'm not going to argue david your the budding stalker here...
What a joke that is, you follow me around the forums like a bitch dog in heat, and you accuse me of stalking, again, how pathetic you are.
You are letting jay and maverick lead you down a dangerous path of lying and false accusing. Careful seeker, it just may back fire on you, big time.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by David on 02-12-2003] |
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Mech
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:55 am
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Plutonium Huh Swamp?
It only took a few specks to wipe out Karen Silkwood...the worker who "knew too much."
Time to bust out the gieger counter. |
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