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Lulu
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Sure LWR...but posting pics is easy...cut n paste the image URL (by right clicking on the image itself) then surround URL with img brackets like this [img]image URL[/img] and presto!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Lulu on 06-03-2003] |
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ChemCaptain
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Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:43 pm
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Ooh it's a doggy. |
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Lulu
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:00 am
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From Coast to Coast regarding the above pictures:
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"Eyeglass" Chemtrails
I live as a private citizen in a very remote Mojave Desert area just outside the perimeter of famous Edwards AFB (California) where most of the USA's (and Britain's) exotic aircraft (secret projects and not so secret ones) take place 24 hours/day. (Incidentally Edwards AFB border's Palmdale where they built the Stealths and who knows what else. I saw the new plane which is bigger than a B2 Stealth, but black and more triangular. Sorry, no photo!)
Living here in this remote area is truly an aviation buff's paradise. While getting ready to run with my dogs I noticed these amusing "eyeglass chemtrails" being created/tested (see below). It was way too hot for ice crystals to form contrails at the relatively low altitude these craft were flying at. Other planes flying at higher altitudes left no contrails. Date of Event: 5/27/03, 10AM. (People who never heard of Edwards AFB can read about it at the USAF's web site at: edwards.af.mil.
--Mike
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LWR
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:51 am
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[http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/eyeglasschemtrails2.jpg]
Thanks Lulu....it should appear!!! |
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LWR
Joined: 25 Apr 2001
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:52 am
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nope....it never has worked for me...thanks though |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:55 am
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That is because you don't have proper tags surrounding the url LWR.
like this [img]URL[/img]
Click on edit in post where I put your pics to see the way...if you are in doubt.
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LWR
Joined: 25 Apr 2001
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:59 am
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Aha!! I will go and practice where I am not wasting your bandwidth.....we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread. |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:05 am
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LOL LWR!! a good place to practice is right here...just send practice Private Messages to yourself...and delete at your leisure
works good for practice midis too...but that's another lesson |
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
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Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:53 am
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pretty tight turns
bow wow |
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Boostedstr8six
Joined: 12 May 2003
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Location: North Olympic Peninsula, Wa |
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Sat Jun 07, 2003 2:36 am
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Nice pics. I live just down the road in Victorville and I have watched two planes make trails very similar to those....ironically, I had left the camera at home that day for lack of activity in the sky. I learned to keep the thing on me as much as possible now.  |
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ChemCaptain
Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Mon Jun 09, 2003 5:44 am
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" It was way too hot for ice crystals to form contrails at the relatively low altitude these craft were flying at."
1) How does this person know what altitude the aircraft were flying at? It's been said again and again, it is virtually impossible to determain height of high altitude aircraft from the ground with just your eyes..
2) How does said person know the temperature at said (undetermained) altitude, and whether or not the atmosphere was suitable for contrails?
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Boostedstr8six
Joined: 12 May 2003
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Location: North Olympic Peninsula, Wa |
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Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:47 am
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If you spend time watching aircraft and have a basic grasp of depth perception, you can come to a reasonable estimate of altitude if you know the general size of the airframe....it's not rocket science at all. I'm sure you can see the difference between FL150 and FL300. In any case, you are simply attacking the weakest point of the commentary and simply bypassing the fact that aircraft made those circles intentionally. By seeing this occur with my own eyes, I can rule out the possibility of a holding pattern since the aircraft flew slightly eccentric but almost parallel courses at around a mile or even less separation. But if you have a better explanation, go for it.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Boostedstr8six on 06-09-2003] |
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ChemCaptain
Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:05 am
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The weakest point? If you mean the 'point that holds it together'. Trust me, depth perception at 5-6 miles in a blue sky is not very good. You may be able (and this very hard) to tell the relativeness of altitude (higher, lower) of two aircraft, but pinning an exact altutude? No.
I still wonder how said person would know temperature at said altitude.
Military aircraft don't use the same type of patterns civil aircraft do, and from the looks of it it looks like a military flight.
That's the best I can say without further information... Not much was given afterall.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 06-09-2003] |
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Boostedstr8six
Joined: 12 May 2003
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Location: North Olympic Peninsula, Wa |
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Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:01 am
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quote:
Military aircraft don't use the same type of patterns civil aircraft do, and from the looks of it it looks like a military flight.
Really? Please explain this. I could see fighter aircraft flying differently but they don't resemble commercial airliners like these planes do. I myself flew on a USAF airframe(E-3B/C) for a few years and we flew along commercial routes all of the time. |
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