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Mech
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Mech
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http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0418-05.htm
Published on Friday, April 18, 2003 by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
War in Iraq a Reason for Shame by Anthony B. Robinson
Good Friday is the right day to assess the current war. Despite what some may be saying, this is not an Easter moment. It is not a moment of victory or triumph, and certainly not a time for "alleluias." It is a moment for sorrow, anguish and reflection.
Anguish and guilt are what at least some of the soldiers in the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, which has borne the brunt of the fighting in Iraq, are now experiencing. They have found themselves fighting a grossly outmatched opponent. The Christian Science Monitor quoted one 3rd Infantry Division soldier saying, "For lack of a better word, I feel almost guilty about the massacre. We wasted a lot of people. It makes you wonder how many were innocent. It takes away some of the pride. We won, but at what cost?"
The Monitor reported that as waves of Iraqis armed only with rifles came against U.S. armored divisions in Najaf, the U.S. commander called in an air strike on the factory sheltering the Iraqis rather than have his troops continue the slaughter. Lt. Col. Woody Radcliff at the 3rd Infantry Division Operations Center said, "There were waves and waves of people coming at them, with AK-47s, and they were killing everyone. The commander (in the field) called and said, 'This is not right. This is insane. Let's hit the factory with close air support and take them out all at once.'
"They have no command and control, no organization. They're just dying," said Brig. Gen. Louis Weber, as assistant commander with the 3rd Infantry. Last week the Division's 2nd Brigade Combat Team killed at least 1,000 Iraqis by direct fire on a single raid into Baghdad, reported Weber.
Should the disproportionality of what that solider termed "a massacre" surprise anyone? I think not. After all, Iraq is a nation whose total Gross National Product equals 15 percent of the GDP of the state of Washington. Half the population of Iraq is under the age of 15. And the annual defense budget was $1.4 billion, as compared with $400 billion for the United States. It has been a little like a pit bull taking on a particularly scrappy kitten. Only the morally atrophied can cheer such a victory, or portray it as Vice President Cheney has as "one of the greatest military campaigns in history."
But inasmuch as we were told that Iraq represented a threat to the national security of the United States, the reality of this war ought to lead us to ask again why we have done this. Such a catalogue of reasons and rationales have been trotted out by the administration that one almost needs a computer program to keep up. Iraq poses a threat to our national security, we were repeatedly told in a blatant and relentless playing on our fears. How is it that the strongest and wealthiest nation on Earth feels so easily threatened?
Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction, we were told. None were used against us. Funny, we haven't found any. Not funny that the documentary "evidence" cited by the president in his State of the Union address to support this claim has turned out to be a forgery, and a very shoddy one at that. Now the president is saying that Syria may have chemical weapons. Is the groundwork being laid for the next invasion?
"Iraq has links to al-Qaida." None were ever shown or substantiated. But that didn't keep the administration from making constant rhetorical connections between Iraq and 9/11. It was a sales job that makes Madison Avenue look like amateurs. And it succeeded. By the time the bombs began to fall a majority of Americans believed that the hijackers of the planes on 9/11 were actually Iraqis, even though not a single one of them was.
Discovering that none of the other stated reasons could hold water, the administration resorted to the "liberation" of Iraq, and "bringing freedom and democracy" to the people there. Only time will tell whether it is democracy and prosperity to which we are committed or a more pliant client state. On Good Friday, the prayers are repetitive. "God have mercy, Lord have mercy, God, have mercy upon us." These are the right prayers for this time when there is reason for reflection and anguish, not elation or self-congratulation.
Anthony B. Robinson is senior minister at Plymouth Congregational Church:
United Church of Christ in Seattle. E-mail: trobinson@plymouthchurchseattle.org
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THE NEW WORD ORDER: A FINAL WARNING FROM CHRISTIANS
http://www.viewfromthewall.com/fwcover.htm#contents
INTRODUCTORY BRIEFING
Since the Persian Gulf War, the term "New World Order" has become well-known. However, there has never really been an explanation as to what the term meant, only that it represented a new spirit of cooperation among the nations of the world in order to further the cause of peace. And peace is good, so therefore the New World Order is good and should be accepted. Not so fast. Like the old saying, you can't tell a book by its cover, there is more here than meets the eye.
The term "New World Order" was actually first used many years ago. Adolf Hitler said: "National Socialism will use its own revolution for the establishing of 'a new world order'." The Associated Press reported that on July 26, 1968, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller said in a speech to the International Platform Association at the Sheraton Park Hotel in New York, that "as President he would work toward international creation of a New World Order."
Edward VIII became King of England on January 20, 1936, but he was forced to abdicate the throne eleven months later, when he married a commoner. He became the Duke of Windsor, and in July, 1940, became the governor of the Bahamas. He is on record as saying: "Whatever happens, whatever the outcome, a New Order is going to come into the world...It will be buttressed with police power...When peace comes this time there is going to be a New Order of social justice. It cannot be another Versailles."
Richard Gardner, former deputy assistant Secretary of State for International Organizations under Kennedy and Johnson, and a member of the Trilateral Commission, wrote in the April, 1974 issue of the Council on Foreign Relation's(CFR) journal Foreign Affairs(pg. 558): "In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion'...but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault."
During the 1976 Presidential campaign, Jimmy Carter said: "We must replace balance of power politics with world order politics." In a February 14, 1977 speech, Carter said: "I want to assure you that the relations of the United States with the other countries and peoples of the world will be guided during my own Administration by our desire to shape a World Order that is more responsive to human aspirations. The United States will meet its obligation to help create a stable, just, and peaceful World Order."
Harvard professor Stanley Hoffman wrote in his book Primacy or World Order: "What will have to take place is a gradual adaptation of the social, economic and political system of the United States to the imperatives of World Order."
Conservative author George Weigel, director of the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C. said: "If the United States does not unashamedly lay down the rules of World Order and enforce them...then there is little reason to think that peace, security, freedom or prosperity will be served."
DOMESTIC TAMPERING
The man who put the New World Order in the limelight, and did more than anyone to bring about its acceptance, was President George Bush. In a February, 1990 fundraiser in San Francisco, Bush said: "Time and again in this century, the political map of the world was transformed. And in each instance, a New World Order came about through the advent of a new tyrant or the outbreak of a bloody global war, or its end."
COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
On Saturday, August 25, 1990, the United Nations Security Council voted unanimously to allow a joint military force to use whatever means necessary to enforce a UN blockade against the country of Iraq. That afternoon, Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft, a CFR member and former aide to Henry Kissinger, who was the National Security Advisor to Bush, was interviewed by Charles Bierbauer of the Cable News Network (CNN) and used the term "a New World Order." During a September, 1990 speech at the United Nations, he announced that "we are moving to a New World Order." In the fall of 1990, on the way to Brussels, Belgium, Secretary of State James Baker said: "If we really believe that there's an opportunity here for a New World Order, and many of us believe that, we can't start out by appeasing aggression."
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SETTING THE STAGE FOR WORLD WAR II
In a September 11, 1990 televised address to a joint session of Congress, Bush said: "A new partnership of nations has begun. We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a New World Order - can emerge...When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this New World Order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the United Nations' founders." The September 17, 1990 issue of Time magazine said that "the Bush administration would like to make the United Nations a cornerstone of its plans to construct a New World Order." On October 30, 1990, Bush suggested that the UN could help create "a New World Order and a long era of peace." Jeanne Kirkpatrick, former U.S. Ambassador to the UN, said that one of the purposes for the Desert Storm operation, was to show to the world how a "reinvigorated United Nations could serve as a global policeman in the New World Order."
Prior to the Gulf War, on January 29, 1991, Bush told the nation in his State of the Union address: "What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea- a New World Order, where diverse nations are drawn together in a common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind; peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law. Such is a world worthy of our struggle, and worthy of our children's future." In an interview with CNN at the height of the Gulf War, Scowcroft said that he had doubts about the significance of Mid-East objectives regarding global policy. When asked if that meant he didn't believe in the New World Order, he replied: "Oh, I believe in it. But our definition, not theirs."
In a speech to the families of servicemen at Fort Gordon, Georgia on February 1, 1991, Bush said: "When we win, and we will, we will have taught a dangerous dictator, and any tyrant tempted to follow in his footsteps, that the United States has a new credibility and that what we say goes, and that there is no place for lawless aggression in the Persian Gulf and in this New World Order that we seek to create." Following a February 6, 1991 speech to the Economic Club of New York City, Bush answered a reporter's question about what the New World Order was, by saying: "Now, my vision of a New World Order foresees a United Nations with a revitalized peace-keeping function."
Bush said in a speech to the Congress on March 6, 1991: "Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is a very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a 'world order' in which the 'principles of justice and fair play...protect the weak against the strong.' A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect for human rights find a home among all nations." On August 21, 1991, after the failed coup in the Soviet Union, CNN reporter Mary Tillotson said that the President's "New World Order is back on track, now stronger than ever."
On January 25, 1993, Clinton's Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, said in a CNN interview: "We must get the New World Order on track and bring the UN into its correct role in regards to the United States."
Somehow, the implications from these quotes, lends a sinister overtone to this New World Order. After over 20 years of research, it is clear that this country has been infiltrated by conspirators, members of an organization who are dedicated to establishing a one-world socialist government - with them in control. It sounds unbelievable, like something out of a James Bond movie, yet it is a fact. A fact that the media has refused to publicize, even attempting to cover it up and deny its very existence.
I LLUMINATI INFLUENCE ON INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS
In the 1844 political novel Coningsby by Benjamin Disraeli, the British Prime Minister, a character known as Sidonia (which was based on Lord Rothschild, whose family he had become close friends with in the early 1840's) says: "That mighty revolution which is at this moment preparing in Germany and which will be in fact a greater and a second Reformation, and of which so little is as yet known in England, is entirely developing under the auspices of the Jews, who almost monopolize the professorial chairs of Germany...the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." On September 10, 1876, in Aylesbury, Disraeli said: "The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans."
On October 1, 1877, Henry Edward Manning, Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster, said of the trouble in the Balkan States: "It is not emperors or kings, nor princes, that direct the course of affairs in the East. There is something else over them and behind them; and that thing is more powerful than them."
In 1902, Pope Leo XIII wrote of this power: "It bends governments to its will sometimes by promises, sometimes by threats. It has found its way into every class of Society, and forms an invisible and irresponsible power, an independent government, as it were, within the body corporate of the lawful state." Walter Rathenau, head of German General Electric, said in 1909: "Three hundred men, all of-whom know one another, direct the economic destiny of Europe and choose their successors from among themselves."
READY TO SPRING THE TRAP
John F. Hylan, mayor of New York City (1918-25), said in a March 26, 1922 speech: "...the real menace of our Republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation...at the head...a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as 'the international bankers.' The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtuaIly run the United States Government for their own selfish purposes." President Woodrow Wilson said: "There is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they better not speak in condemnation of it." In a letter dated November 21, 1933, Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote: "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."
In her novel, Captains and the Kings, Taylor Caldwell wrote of the "plot against the people," and says that it wasn't "until the era of the League of Just Men and Karl Marx that conspirators and conspiracies became one, with one aim, one objective, and one determination." Some heads of foreign governments refer to this group as "The Magicians," Stalin called them "The Dark Forces," and President Eisenhower described them as "the military-industrial complex." Joseph Kennedy, patriarch of the Kennedy family, said: "Fifty men have run America and that's a high figure." U.S. Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, said: "The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
According to the California State Investigating Committee on Education (1953): "So-called modern Communism is apparently the same hypocritical and deadly world conspiracy to destroy civilization that was founded by the secret order of The Illuminati in Bavaria on May 1, 1776, and that raised its whorey head in our colonies here at the critical period before the adoption of our Federal Constitution."
Through the years, the term "Illuminati" has developed an anti-Semitic connotation, because some researchers have insisted that the move toward a one world government has been engineered as part of a Jewish conspiracy. This is not true. One of the documents that provided evidence concerning this, has been proven to be a complete fabrication. Although some of the International Bankers which actually control this group are Jewish, there is no basis for indicting the entire Jewish race.
In 1966, Dr. Carroll Quigley, a professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, published a 1311 page book called Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time. On page 950 he says: "There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments...my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known...because the American branch of this organization (sometimes called the "Eastern Establishment") has played a very significant role in the history of the United States in the last generation."
On page 324, he elaborates even further by saying: "In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole." Bill Clinton, during his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention, said: "As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown (University where he attended 1964- 6 I heard that call clarified by a professor I had named Carroll Quigley." This is where Clinton received his indoctrination as an internationalist favoring one-world government.
Dr. Tom Berry, who was pastor or the Baptist Bible Church in Elkton, Maryland, said: At most, there are only 5,000 people in the whole world who have a significant understanding of the plan."
Sen. William Jenner said in a February 23, 1954 speech: "Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people...0utwardly we have a constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side...All the strange developments in foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure...This political action group has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our government.
Sen. Russell Long of Louisiana, who for 18 years was the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said that our "government is completely and totally out of control. We do not know how much long term debt we have put on the American people. We don't even know our financial condition from year to year..." He also said: We have created a bureaucracy in Washington so gigantic that it is running this government for the bureaucracy, the way they want, and not for the people of the United States. We no longer have representative government in America."
Haven't you wondered why things are the way they are. That even though a new President is elected and a new Administration takes over, executive policy does not change, nor does the State of the Nation - which continues to get worse. Is there some sort of group that has infiltrated both political parties, our government, and many other governments, which has for years been creating and controlling world events, and is only now being officially identified, because it is too late to stop this juggernaut? Yes, we believe there is, and that is the purpose of making these files public- to trace the origin and growth of the group which has come to be known as the New World Order, and why there is such a massive campaign to accept it.
President Bill Clinton said in his first inaugural address: "Profound and powerful forces are shaking and remaking our world, and the urgent question of our time is whether we can make change our friend and not our enemy."
You need to know just exactly what these changes are, and how they will affect the lives and you and your family.
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Shadow
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Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:47 pm
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>>Haven't you wondered why things are the way they are. That even though a new President is elected and a new Administration takes over, executive policy does not change, nor does the State of the Nation - which continues to get worse. Is there some sort of group that has infiltrated both political parties, our government, and many other governments, which has for years been creating and controlling world events, and is only now being officially identified, because it is too late to stop this juggernaut? Yes, we believe there is, and that is the purpose of making these files public- to trace the origin and growth of the group which has come to be known as the New World Order, and why there is such a massive campaign to accept it.<<
Taylor Caldwell answered the questions about NWO in CAPTAINS AND THE KINGS.
I excerpted the 'fact' from 'fiction' sections if anyone is interested. E-mail for a copy.
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mick
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:59 am
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Ali got busted for not going to Vietnam, but a squaddie was allowed to miss the Iraq trip so he could go into the Big Brother house.
The people who shout loudly about being a member of a political profiteering racket that happens to put Jesus in it's logo, have to do that because you'd never make any connection with Christ from the way they act.
Show me a born again christian and I'll show you someone who has reborn Jesus as required to justify whatever way they were going to live anyhow.
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kevinalfred
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YEA MICK YOU KNOW;
And wasn't Ali a Klansman? Just goes to show you, not everything you here is true. Bush must of had a bigger boner after all! Please don't attack me Bhang. Actually I came on this site to answer the shahow. There's basically not much more than a room full of people that call the shots. AT least they're allowed to think they call the shots. Here we go fella's. MECH,BHANG, and whoever else may view the Bible as a Useful tool when it's convenient!! (sorry about that bhang , I just got done apologizing to you for that), but you know what,...no more apologies!! You can't take verses out of the HOLY WORD OF YHWH at your own convenience. tHE PEOPLE WHO RULE THIS WORLD ARE PUPPETS OF SATAN! tHERE YOU GO. I CAN'T GET MORE CLEAR THAN THAT. That's where I stand on the matter. Ephesians 6:12, read it straight up you don't even need to iterperate it. It's as real as the fricken chem. trails. Who do you think is behind that unbelievable impossible, (as some have said because of the magnitude needed to pull it off), Look around. It's satans world. The way is narrow. FEW will find it! I'm sorry if you don't like to here this,but you can't have these new world religions that justify sin! OH boy I did it now I'm gonna get blasted. Pre-marrital sex, yup I did it with both of my true love relationships and it turned them both upside down and doomed them from the start. You can come back on that with every bull Shyt excuse in the world and all you'll really be tryin' to convince is yourself. You can examine your rights and your wrongs and try to justify yourself, when that don't work get someone else to help you justify you, and whatever you do, you can keep on doin' it, but I pray to God that you don't die before you find out that you can't justify yourself by sayin' anything or doin' anything. I' been one of the most horrifiing sinners of all. I've done things some of you would probably shutter at.Anyway my point was to shadow that it's always the same and worse because satan is getting worse. there are no extratarestriels, but they're are extra dim
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the professor
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My view is the path of destiny has been chosen for the worse and although I believe it could change, it won't! Kevin, your zealousness does turn people off but I understand the way you see it, which is no excuses. Thats the way it should be but most don't want to get that personal on themselves. My opinion on the marine is that he should of never joined them in the first place if his heart were not into it. Your going to a corp of trained killers where in bootcamp they break you down then build you up. There is a certain mindset needed to hang with the marines. Back in the sixties bootcamp was extremely rough nothing like today, my father was there in 68, 69 and said bootcamp was pretty much what the movie full metal jacket depicted but worse. |
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