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KNOW-THIS
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The foreboding visions of a Luciferian
 Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:21 pm
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http://www.ummo.cc/
Death of Earth and the Human Soul
The earth is an organism that can die and if it dies, we loose our soul. The idea that we shall live forever beyond the body no matter what we do now is false. There is only one soul and we all share it. The earth generates the soul and our spirit facilitates its transmission via the human psyche, brain, and sex.
The entire purpose of this human and earth relationship was designed by other intelligences that require the transmission of historical and non-historical data within our dimension. We were created to view the Universe in such a way that the Universe might see itself.
Something has gone terribly wrong.
The earth had been designed to maintain approximately ten billion people who in turn would tend to a very delicate ecosystem. The advent of ten billion spiritually advanced brains could have ushered in a fantastic change in the way we might understand the Universe and perhaps beyond. It is interesting to note that human consciousness requires the simultaneous firing of approximately ten billion neurons.
Human population will not reach ten billion due to present day global environmental problems. The earth is now dying and it is beyond repair.
Now every known social institution world wide is failing. Child abductions and murder are becoming commonplace. Extreme aberrant human and animal behaviors such as unprovoked attacks and killings are also becoming commonplace world wide. Dwindling natural resources may be one factor but not as important as the idea of total human extinction and the loss of our soul. The idea of this is incomprehensible representing the ultimate fear that will in the near future inspire mass panic and indescribable madness.
Yellowstone
A large hydrothermal explosion within the Yellowstone Caldera region is shown sending pulverized rock and other debris a distance from the site.
I do not see lava flow associated with the incident although quake activity and lava are seen deep below the surface of the associated area.
This is not a volcano.
Higher amounts of energy will be released in the form of hydrothermal activity over the next three years and will begin to quiet down after this.
Volcanism is not likely.
Increased quake activity is expected although this is perhaps something we normally see in terms of the release of large amounts of energy within the region. We can be thankful for that.
There is no threat to crop production within the United States as a result of the hydrothermal explosion.
There is no immediate danger to human life outside of the Yellowstone Caldera region.
The Genetic Manipulation of Early Primates by LUCIFER and Our Return to Eden
LUCIFER is the true father of the human race. This "alien" being is responsible for the genetic manipulation of early primates thus the fall of man from the earth garden called Eden. Man became unbound of nature and from the four great false religions set fourth by the enemies of LUCIFER, man is now terribly lost.
The purpose of LUCIFER is to impede the path of man to the extent that his bicameral mind is unified.
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the professor
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Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:30 am
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Heres something you might want to chew on but read Genesis chapter six. By tracing down the Hebrew meanings and origins of languange you will find that the sons of God are the fallen angels otherwise known as demons and how they had sexual relations with human women, hence this is most likely how the giants came about. Do a study on what the giants were like and you'll find that they were exceedingly evil and just another reason to bring about the great flood to rid the world of that type (among others) of physical evil. Another sidenote is that before the flood the earth wasn't tilted 23 degrees off it's axis until the time of the flood it never rained up until that time, only a mist and also with how the atmospheric changes from then to now it's scientifically been proven that with the right amount of oxygen and so forth you would live hundreds of years longer than we do today. Is it any wonder that right after the flood man didn't llive an average of 800 years but 80 years. |
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KNOW-THIS
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Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:58 am
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You know, I've never really read the Bible. My beliefs as far as spirituality goes have changed so many times. I've always been willing to explore all possibilities. We'll never really know until we die I guess. |
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JerseyBluEyz
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Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:44 am
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I love it! One of my favorite subjects - Ancient Civilizations. I’ll try to make this short – ha!
Depending on what version of scripture you read, Genesis 6:4 (written by Moses 1440 BC) will refer to either Nephilim or giants. The Hebrew word for giants (nephilum/nephilim) literally means the fallen-down-ones or fallen angels.
Genesis 6:4
NIV: The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
KJV: There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
There is also mention of the Nephilim in Numbers 13:33 (written by Moses 1400 BC):
NIV: We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.
KJV: And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Don’t forget the infamous Philistine Goliath in 1 Samuel 17 (written 930 BC). The Philistine reign was from 1175 BC – 600 BC.
Nephilim are also referenced in the “mysterious and long lost” or should I say long suppressed Book of Enoch written by Noah’s great-grandfather (2nd century BC). Nephilim is translated as giants, watchers of heaven, heavenly watchers, or children of heaven. In the Book of Enoch you can read about the demoralization of mankind (counterpart to Genesis 6) in Chapters 6 – 11 and about Enoch’s intercession for the watchers in heaven in Chapters 12 – 16 here (both sections are under Book 1 – The Watchers) http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/enoch/
There are many stories over the ages where “mighty” beings existed, that interbred with daughters of men before and after the great flood. Many odd shaped skulls as well as giant skeletal remains have been found in places such as North American, Peru, Mexico, and Egypt. Talk about suppressed information!
Here is an image of an elongated skull found in Peru:
One of my favorite related stories revolves around 18th Egyptian Dynasty, the Amarna Period. Amenhotep IV, or Akhenaten, was a controversial Egyptian Pharaoh that reigned about 3,500 years ago (1350 BC). He had six daughters with Nefernefruaten, or Nefertiti. During his reign, he made two prominent but short-lived changes in the Egyptian culture. He thought art should be presented in more natural and less formal poses. Akhenaten also pushed a monotheistic religion, the worship of one God - Aten, the Sun God. It’s interesting to note that during this same time period, Moses also pushed a monotheistic religion! Hmmm? Always made me wonder what the connection between the two was, if any?
Here are the main excerpts of a hymn written by Akhenaten around 1360 BC – this sounds very Biblical to me:
Thou arisest fair in the horizon of Heaven,
O Living Aten, Beginner of Life.
When thou dawnest in the East,
Thou fillest every land with thy beauty.
Thou art indeed comely, great, radiant and high over every land.
Thy rays embrace the lands to the full extent of all that thou hast made,
For thou art Re and thou attainest their limits,
And subdues them for thy beloved son.
Thou art remote yet thy rays are upon the earth.
Thou art in the sight of men, yet thy ways are not known.
When thou settest in the Western horizon,
The earth is in darkness after the manner of death.
Men spend the night indoors with their head covered,
The eye not seeing its fellow.
Their possessions might be stolen, even when under their heads,
And they would be unaware of it.
Every lion comes forth from its lair
And all snakes bite.
Darkness lurks and the earth is silent,
When their Creator rests in his habitation.
The earth brightens when thou arisest in the Eastern horizon, [...]
Thou drivest away the night when thou givest forth thy beams.
The Two Lands are in festival.
They awake and stand upon their feet,
For thou hast raised them up.
They wash their limbs, they put on raiment,
And raise their arms in adoration at thy appearance.
The entire earth performs its labors.
[...]
Thou appointest every man to his place and satisfiest his needs.
Everyone receives his sustenance and his days are numbered.
Their tongues are diverse in speech [...]
And their color is differentiated,
For thou hast distinguished the nations.
Thou makest the waters under the earth,
And thou bringest them forth [as the Nile]
at thy pleasure to sustain the people of Egypt.
Even as thou hast made them live for thee,
O Divine Lord of them all, toiling for them,
The Aten Disk of the day time, great in majesty!
All distant foreign lands also, thou createst their life.
Thou hast placed a Nile in heaven to come forth for them,
And make a flood upon the mountains like the sea,
In order to water the fields of their villages.
How excellent are thy plans, O Lord of Eternity!
- a Nile in the sky is thy gift to foreigners,
And to beasts of their lands;
But the true Nile flows from under the earth for Egypt.
[...]
When you rise you stir everyone for the King,
Every leg is on the move since you founded the earth.
You rouse them for your son who came from your body,
The King who lives by Maat, the Lord of the Two Lands,
Neferkheperure, Sole-one-of Re,
The son of Re who lives by Maat, the lord of crowns,
Akhenaten, great in his lifetime;
And the great Queen whom he loves, the Lady of the Two Lands,
Nefer-nefru-Aten Nefertiti, living forever!
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JerseyBluEyz
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Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:52 am
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Now the story gets even more interesting. The whole royal family had odd physical features. Akhenaten is known to have a long slender neck, a long face with a sharp chin, long arms and fingers, rounded thighs and buttocks, a soft belly, enlarged breasts, and at times no genitalia. From studying his mummy, they found that he had an elongated skull and was unusually tall.
Akhenaten:
Akhenaten and family:
Nefertiti had large ears, a long, skinny neck, a high waist, bulging tummy, skinny legs, and wide thighs.
Nefertiti:
The children also had long slender necks, high waists, skinny calves, and full thighs. As you will see, some of the busts and artwork depicts the royal family as having enormous cone-shaped heads.
Royal Children:
Does it make you wonder? I know I do!
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Boomer Chick
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Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:33 am
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KNOW THIS,
I heard this guy on Coast to Coast not too long ago. He said that all Christians and religionists are brainwashed and that he deprogrammed his own parents who were Christians. He claims that angels are our enemies! HUH!
Anyone who spouts that Lucifer is the father of the human race is deluded and under the power of this fallen angel.
Not once did he mention LOVE and he did say that TRUTH is not worthy. This is the obvious rantings of a lost soul.
The people of earth are not lost. This is a lie. The Bible says the author of lies is Satan or Lucifer. So no matter how cheery this guy sounds, how much he credits himself with supernatural abilities, how much he purports to know the creation of our species --
ITS A LIE! HE'S LOST !
That's my 2 cents!
False prophets!
bc
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shatoga
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Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:26 pm
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As for the references to Egypt;
Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible,
and Moses was educated in Egypt.
Ah,
the guidance of the televangelists and the leaders of that coalition...
Reverend Robertson and his fellow millionaires who tell us daily to reject all voices other than their own.
>3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.
10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.
11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.<
If they were walking penniless among us preaching the word as they claim from thier expensive buildings, and wearing second hand castoffs instead of thousand dollar tailored suits..
>Matthew 13:22
He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. <
They might be a bit more believable.
As for the notion that Lucifer/Satan/(the) Devil is lord of or in control of this world...
>Luke 4
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.<
How could the devil offer Jesus that which he did not posess?
What's that? Did I just suggest that the Christians Bible says Satan is lord of our world?
>John 12
30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.<
Hmmm...Jesus calls the devil "the Prince of this world"
Who claims otherwise, argues not with me, but with the Bible and with Jesus.
I suggest it is up to individual beliefs as to the exact meaning of statements such as:
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John 8:23
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. <
Angels among us?
Sons of God?
Demons from hell?
Alien beings?
All a matter of our individual beliefs.
I suggest reading all quotes in context.
That way there is no doubt as to the meaning of:
>John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. <
>John 16
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.<
>Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
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>Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Boomer Chick
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Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:46 am
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Good try! And it's also understood that each one of us speaks from our own belief systems. And when we do speak about spiritual matters, we are speaking from our experience as well. I do not derive truth ONLY from the Bible.
Biblical:
Matthew 4:6 And [Satan] saith unto him, if thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down:for it is written, 'He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash they foot against a stone.'
7 Jesus said unto him, "It is written again, THOU shalt not tempt the Lord they God."
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, "Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,' Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.' "
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I do think he was trumping Satan, evoking the power of God [the Father] over Satan. And as Jesus is the Son of God -- he trumps Satan, also! But the picture that Lucifer or Satan was the prince of the world, but now is NOT is further explained in the Urantia Book.
Urantia Book:
pg.610 Local Universe: The Lucifer Rebellion
Caligastia was recognized by the Son of Man as the technical Prince of Urantia up to near the time of his death. Said Jesus: "Now is the judgment of the world; now shall the prince of this world be cast down." And then still nearer the completion of his lifework he announced, "The prince of this world is judged." And it is this same dethroned and discredited Prince who was once termed "God of Urantia."
The last act of Michael [Jesus] before leaving Urantia was to offer mercy to Caligastia and Daligastia, but they spurned his tender proffer. Caligastia, your apostate Planetary Prince, is still free on Urantia to prosecute his nefarious designs, but he has absolutely no power to enter the minds of men, neither can he draw near to their souls to tempt or corrupt them unless they really desire to be cursed with his wicked presence.
Before the bestowal of Michael these rulers of darkness sought to maintain their authority on Urantia, and they persistently withstood the minor and subordinate celestial personalities. But since the day of Pentecost this traitorous Caligastia and his equally contemptible associate, Daligastia, are servile before the divine majesty of the Paradise Thought Adjusters and the protective Spirit of Truth, the spirit of Michael, which has been poured out upon all flesh.
But even so, no fallen spirit ever did have the power to invade the minds or to harass the souls of the children of God. Neither Satan nor Caligastia could ever touch or approach the faith sons of God; faith is an effective armor against sin and iniquity. It is true: "He who is born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one touches him not."
In general, when weak and dissolute mortals are supposed to be under the influence of devils and demons, they are merely being dominated by their own inherent and debased tendencies, being led away by their own natural propensities. The devil has been given a great deal of credit for evil which does not belong to him. Caligastia has been comparatively impotent since the cross of Christ.
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Urantia: pg 611
"Satan is now unqualifiedly detained on the Jerusem prison worlds. "
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If you're curious about the Lucifer Rebellion, read :
http://www.ubook.org/upapers/ubpaper053.html
The Urantia Book is Jesus-supportive, illustrative, and is claimed to be the latest revelation of truth. It is a compilation of papers presented through a human in the 1930's and published in the 50's. It has expressed the very same sentiment that swampgas has often stated that if we followed the words of Jesus, we would all live in peace.
Love one another ...
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KNOW-THIS
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Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:50 am
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"You gotta be saved in order to go to heaven, you only have to be yourself to go to hell". |
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kevinalfred
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Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:57 am
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HELLO FELLOW TRUTH SEEKERS?,
KNOW THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING, BUT YOU SEEM TO HAVE FALLEN SHY. WILL CERTAINLY BE THINKING OF YOU. MR. PROFFESSOR, THE BIBLE, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, IS FROM THE FIRST WORD IN GEN., TO THE LAST WORD OF 'THE REVELATION', THE ABSOLUTE BLUEPRINT, THE VERY DESIGN OF OUR EXSISTANCE GIVEN TO US BY OUR VERY CREATER. I KNOW WHAT I JUST OPENED UP. ALL I REALLY WANTED TO SAY TO THE PROFFESSOR WAS, FALLEN ANGELS, & DEMONS ARE DIFFERENT. IF YOU RECALL THE ANGELS MADE BABIES, DEMONS SEEK EMBODYMENT. 2ND PETER 2:4,fallen angels, I'M NOT GONNA GO ANY FURTHER FOR FEAR OF STARTING AN ARGUMENT. YOU KNOW I DON'T REMEMBER WHO WROTE WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN WE DIE WOE--I HAVE A VERY SPECIAL STORY FOR YOU! whenigetoffthiscrappy95andgetovertothelib
SHOW ME TRUTH; so its obvious that you're into a study of nephilim, rephaim, zamzummim, anokim, etc. Matt.24:37 here's a kool little idiom; Gen.6:2-Rev.6:2 toss it around, see how they fly. JERSEYBLUEYZ; one of the most amazing proofs of living nephilim I've recognized. I will definitely be printing that out at the lib. I can't believe I hadn't seen that before...BOOMER ! YOU LET HIM HAVE IT BC WELL IT'S 4:30am est where I live. SHATOGA, I HOPE I GOT your name right. when satan offerred Yahshua the kingdoms of the world He did not reply these are not yours to offer. Indeed satan is the prince of THIS WORLD. AND YES TO EPH.6:12 and when it's all said & done, there will be Revelation 21:1.
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kevinalfred
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Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:26 pm
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My apology to know this;
I thought this was your belief. but your the one who has decided that you guess you'll find out what happens when you die. That is probably just as bad as the former. i believe that without Jesus Christ there is no salvation. I'm sure I'm gonna here a lotta here a lotta feed back on that but that's okay.It won't be the first, and I hope it won't be the last. I usually run into those who say I've read that 'Bible' from cover to cover. That's pretty much the first sign of complete ignorance. You simply ask about John 3:16, they might get by that onr , but suprisingly enough, they usually don't. Anyway I will onl say this; 'CONDEMNATION BEFORE INVESTGATION',. I like to think that I give every aspect a good bit of research. I'll be perfectly honest, I'm NOT perfect and I haven't seen everything, but I have researchehed the Bible,and I continue to with prayer and under some very well learned pastors.
I'm sorry I'm bein cut short here. Someone else is waiting for the computer . sorry. I'll try to get back on this if you want . If you don't want that's okay too. I do feel that I have a bit to offer though. up to you. pray to the CREATER this way you can't make a mistake on who it is you're praying to , and the Creater who gave His onl Son for our sins.
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Boomer Chick
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Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:53 am
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Hi! Kevin!
Welcome aboard!
May angels watch over you and surround you in love and light even as the spirit of truth embues you with strength!
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shatoga
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Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:17 am
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May all visiting here take the time to post.
My own opinions are already known to me..
Your opinions are sought that we may learn from them.
Lots of sources because each of us has his/her own beliefs.
(as it should be)
My urantia source is: http://www.urantia.org/papers/
David Ickes and others who believe in reptilians or aliens and recombinant DNA or primitive mind regions of our brains are a separate topic from possible origions of species and just who or whom doth rule this planet.
All theories interest me.
My personal beliefs include possibliities that the Torah is correct, and that our civilization is cylical.
"Nothing new under the sun"
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KNOW-THIS
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Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:59 am
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"but your the one who has decided that you guess you'll find out what happens when you die."
What other choice do I have? A suicide attempt that I HOPE only results in a NEAR death experience? Even then, actual death obviously isn't experienced so no conclusion can be met anyway. It's the only real option for me. |
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Boomer Chick
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Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:40 am
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Point taken, shatoga!
Know This,
Try reading on Near Death Experiences (NDE) and find out what those who have crossed over know.
It's one way to get a glimpse of where we're going and I can say you won't be disappointed if you take some time and read on it!
Don't ever try to "flatline" (remember "Flatliners?") to find out! Use the experiences of others for your own knowledge base, OK?
My suggestions? Start with "Closer to the Light" by M.D. Melvin Morse, then go for Dannion Brinkley's "Saved by the Light" and "At Peace in the Light" then you might try "Embraced by the Light" by Betty Eadie! They're all eye openers and quite intelligently done! There are internet sites devoted to such experiencers as well! The books you can find used on Amazon for a couple of bucks!
Yes, there's nothing like first-hand experience, but second hand beats no experience by miles!
Just a thought for you!
Blessings,
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