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Bhang
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Hi Gang!
After mega layovers I've made it back to CA. to visit the whole Famn Damily. It's been a long road and I praise God that I made it alive and in one piece from Baghdad.
So now that I'm home (temporairly) I'm siiting (as I write) the news...
Terrorist attack on High! My God look out!
The CIA says they found a laptop with terrorist plans embedded... so I ask the forum this - How easy is it to load a computer with whatever it is you want people to believe???
If I was propagating a war on terror then I would do anything I could to claim I have evidence on certin "undesirables". How easy is it for the CIA to load a computer with pics and info they already have, put it in a diffrent language, say Pakistan national are to blame, and force feed the "terrorfied" American public?!?
What a thing to see my first thing back in the states after 3 years...
I don't know what to think...
I have my skeptic idea of it all but want to know what more knowledgeable people think? 
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Mech
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:11 am
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Its called...FEAR...FEAR...FEAR...FEAR.
Doesn't work on those people with brains slighly more dense than condensed tomato soup..and who don't watch FAUX ..excuse me FOX.
Its all about CONDITIONING THE PEOPLE to accept peremenant "Crisis" for endles wars for profit.
These F**kerss FEED OFF FEAR.
Welcome back Bhang to New Babylon...glad you are safe. |
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JerseyBluEyz
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:41 am
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Yeah! You made it to the states! Are you back for good now?? I'm so GLAD you're with the family again my friend!!!  |
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BigJoe
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:57 am
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I just read in this mornings paper that they're now saying that this latest hype was all based on pre-9/11 intelligence... and there's really nothing new here at all...
"It's unclear if a plot is real... Much of the information that led authorities to raise the terror alert at several large financial institutions in the New York City and Washington areas was conducted before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks... They reported that they had not yet found concrete evidence that a terror plot or preparatory surveillance operations were under way... "There is nothing right now that we're hearing that is new", a senior law enforcement official who was briefed on the alert told "The Washington Post". "Why did we go to this level?... I still don't know that."
Yes indeed, keep the public in a constant state of uncertainty and fear! But then again... if the dept. of homeland security can get half of the population to seal themselves up in their livingrooms with duct tape, get the local TV news media to demonstrate how to do it, and then get them to finally come out by telling them that they may suffocate... well... 
Hey Bhang, really good to hear that you're back and doing ok!!!  |
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Bhang
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:22 pm
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Thanx everyone! It's SO good to be back I can't even begin to explain. My parents neighbors turned me on to the following article last night. It falls in line with what
BijJoe touched on:
Terror Alert Info Dated As Far Back As 2000
POSTED: 9:51 am EDT August 3, 2004
UPDATED: 10:30 am EDT August 3, 2004
WASHINGTON -- U.S. officials say the detailed surveillance photos and documents that prompted higher terror warnings dated from as far back as 2000 and 2001, and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Tuesday the government concluded "it was essential" to publicize it and raise the terror alert.
Speaking at a news conference in New York, Ridge said that because of the heightened security steps, "We have made it much more difficult for the terrorists to achieve their broad objectives. ... We will not become fortress America."
Officials had said earlier that it wasn't clear whether the individuals who amassed the information, principally on financial institutions in New York, Newark and Washington, D.C., are still in the country or plotting.
Top Bush administration officials said some of the surveillance was apparently updated as recently as January of this year. And they denied any allegations that the public release of the information now, and the raising of the terror alert, were politically motivated. They said the information was released now because it was just uncovered in Pakistan.
"We don't do politics in the Department of Homeland Security," Ridge said. "Our job is to identify the threat."
The surveillance actions taken by the plotters were "originally done between 2000 and 2001, but were updated - some were updated - as recently as January of this year," Fran Townsend, the White House homeland security adviser, said Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show.
"And from what we know of al-Qaida's method ... they do them years in advance and then update them before they actually launch the attack," she said.
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that once federal officials get such information, "they do have a responsibility not only to evaluate it, but to get it out."
But some Democrats have raised concerns that the timing of the release of the information had more to do with politics than with fears that terrorists were about to strike.
Townsend and other officials noted that the information -- dating back to 2000 and 2001 -- was just recently discovered in Pakistan. "We've only gotten the intelligence, I would say, in the last 72 hours," she said Tuesday.
U.S. officials have said that the trove of hundreds of photos, sketches and written documents that led to Sunday's warning about new risks of terror attacks came largely from a Pakistani computer engineer, Mohammad Naeem Noor Khan, also known as Abu Talha, who was captured in mid-July in Pakistan.
Officials are now following investigative leads, as they try to learn more about possible plots against the apparent targets: The Citigroup Center building and the New York Stock Exchange in New York, the International Monetary Fund and World Bank buildings in Washington and Prudential Financial Inc.'s headquarters in Newark, N.J.
At a news conference Monday, Townsend denied that political considerations affected the timing of the intelligence disclosures, which came the week after Democrats nominated John Kerry as their presidential candidate. "It had nothing to do with the Democratic National Convention," she said.
On Monday, a Pakistani intelligence official said Khan, a computer and communications expert, had sent messages to suspected al-Qaida members using code words -- a practice typical of the international jihadist organization that bedeviled U.S. efforts to unravel the Sept. 11, 2001, plot. But the Pakistani official refused to say if Khan was part of al-Qaida.
Khan's information has been merged with other pieces of intelligence, including information gleaned after Pakistan's arrest last month of a senior al-Qaida operative named Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani. E-mails that included plans for new attacks in Great Britain and the United States were found on the computer of the captured Ghailani, Pakistan's information minister, Sheikh Rashid Ahmed, said Monday.
But it was Khan and the information found after his arrest that
was mostly behind the decision to raise the government's terror alert for financial-services buildings in New York, Washington and northern New Jersey -- to orange, or high alert.
The FBI is analyzing the information about the surveillance of these five buildings, obtained after Khan's capture, to try to determine when it may have occurred, so that investigators can review building logs or videos during that same period, said one senior law enforcement official, speaking only on condition of anonymity because of the continuing investigation.
Investigators hope that logs or video might help identify some of the individuals involved, which would help agents understand the breadth of the terror plot.
The FBI is also trying to compare reports about the surveillance with previous intelligence reports that might have been considered innocuous or unconfirmed months ago, but might take on important new meaning in light of the latest information.
Officials don't yet know precisely when the detailed surveillance work took place.
A counterterrorism official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said authorities believe the surveillance was going on both before and after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, based on clues within the documents, including descriptions of security indicative of practices used before the suicide hijackings. |
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Swamp Gas
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:08 pm
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"The only think we have to fear....is fear itself"
Welcome back, even though temporarily, Bhang.
I just read that Mayor Bloomberg can act independently of Tom Ridge, and declare a Red Alert for New York City. How convenient, and right on schedule for the RNC this month.
Almost all of Wall Street workers interviewed said it is BullShoot. From street vendors to Executives all agree...It is Politics that is motivating this recent Scare Tactic"....Hmmmm, I wonder about that little Bush-Loving Strumpet Shannon Doherty, and her show "Scare Tactics".
Anyway, Chicken Little Tom Ridge is losing more credibility. The FEAR continuum created by the Neo-Cons and their willing slaves will backfire on them.
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skizz
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:17 pm
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swamp that is what i was thinking! just in time for the convention. but there is still more shopping days left before the election, for them to come up with martial law and halted election. and those pesky mystical terrorists in langley va. must have something ccoked up. |
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Swamp Gas
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:05 pm
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Yep, and this time New Yorkers are not being fooled. Aftere the phoney "The Air is safe", and a number of independent firms said it was not, Gotham won't be double-talked again.
They are putting the protestors under West Side Highway. If you don't know where that is, try about 7 New York blocks, and it is where all the impounded cars go. A relatively unsafe area.
Now Martial Law would take care of that. My thought is still witha frozen Bin Laden Rollout, although it could be an imposter. Who would know? |
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skizz
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:34 pm
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bush has to drag him out of the cooler sometime, they can use the phoney dna scam like saddam, this is all bush has left cuz' they can't use florida again, people might actually wake up to it. maybe we should start a pool as to when we believe bush will turn up bin laden for the election. i say sept. 11th cuz' it fits his style. |
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Swamp Gas
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:02 pm
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Sep 11th would be good from a promotional standpoint. If it's October, people would then say, "Another October surprise". Maybe the day before the election to sway some last minute voters.
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skizz
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:25 pm
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bush will go on national tv and say bin laden has been caught
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Bhang
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Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:46 pm
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While they thaw Bin Laden, Kerry will be making his moves. I highly doubt Bush will "WIN" another "election". Yet that still leaves us with the huge problem of Kerry also being a member of the Skull and Bones and in league with the Zionist.
Hope isn't too far away. My good friends here in Auburn have been tracking the Neo -Cons while I've been away in Europe/Iraq for 3 years. They have a vast understanding of the New World Plan. What I'm trying to say is that people are wakeing up, they are picking the Red Pill. They also see the veil before their eyes. I have told them nothing of the things I have learned in the past few years but these guys are aware of it all. I'm very proud of them and I get hope knowing others are learning about the Undeclared War.
Bush and his lackies are scrambling but Kerry -should- take it (if we actually COUNT the votes) but Kerry just may be a more educated puppet than our good 'ol Texan in Office. Who knows? We might be trading scheisse for more scheisse. Point is: The Sheeple are begining to see more and more the wolf in shepard's clothing.
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CDsNuTz
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Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:14 pm
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ahhahah Thats whats about to happen,We'll see him (bin laden) sometime soon. |
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