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CDsNuTz
Joined: 16 Jul 2004
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Anger in the forum
 Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:27 am
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There seems to be a misunderstanding between Swampgas and me.He assumes i was being rude,crude and thinks i broke some rules to the forum.i simply was making a funny comment as to a comment he made.There were no insults at least that i started.He assumes im a previously banned member,and thinks i should be banned now.I welcome any and all admins and members alike to visit the link, make your decision,and let me know.If you think i should be banned then dont even bother.ill just go someplace else.
Heres the link>>>>http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6683&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 |
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JerseyBluEyz
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:35 am
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I'm sure this was all a misunderstanding. I appreciate the insight I've read in many of your posts. As far as your teflon joke goes, I did catch the humor when I read it. Sometimes when people are faced with a particular hardship in life, its not always easy to appreciate humor that might revolve around THAT particular subject ya know? I'm not taking sides here - but because we're all in this together, I hope you guys can declare peace. |
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CDsNuTz
Joined: 16 Jul 2004
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:53 am
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I'd have to say im completely amazed that 1 person spoke up saying something positive about either side,actually it says volumes to me personally.If you really think about it, its kinda scarey so few speak out.
He can shred me as much as he likes,I know in my (Moderately liberal,with a slight conservative veiw) mind i wasnt wrong.I may not have been completely right,but i in no way intended to belittle anyone the way Swamp gas has me.
SPEAK OUT OR FOREVER BE HELD DOWN |
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Swamp Gas
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:54 am
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Yeah,
It's a real Yuk it up JerseyBlueyz, isn't it? I have heard you slamming somebody pretty hard when it did not suit your fancy.
Nobody has ridiculed the current hardship you are in, and in fact, we have lent our hand to help you. So much for reciprocal help. Imagine if somebody made light of your marriage, or your employment situation. Would you find the humor in it? It is so easy to laugh at gutter humor when it is not you who are being the target.
thanks a load...JBE
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Swamp Gas
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:00 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by CDsNuTz
I'd have to say im completely amazed that 1 person spoke up saying something positive about either side,actually it says volumes to me personally.If you really think about it, its kinda scarey so few speak out.
He can shred me as much as he likes,I know in my (Moderately liberal,with a slight conservative veiw) mind i wasnt wrong.I may not have been completely right,but i in no way intended to belittle anyone the way Swamp gas has me.
Now who is expecting sympathy? You tried to sabotage the Diabetes thread, one that obviosly has a lot of people looking at. WHen you do get a serious illness in your life, you will see what I am talking about. Until you do, it is all theory, until you walk in my shoes. You talk about how "Funny" of a guy/gal you are. You know the old saying about comedians who laugh at their own jokes?
After you slammed Shatoga, a good poster and a person I respect, and has shown me mutual respect, I knew you were trouble. Shatoga is a Native American, who was disabled from fighting another bogus war years ago, for Greedy Capitalists. WE ARE THE VICTIMS, AND I ALWAYS STICK UP FOR THE UNDERDOG, AND PUSH BACK THE PERPS. Do you understand that? I know Shatoga can fight his own battles, but that's the way I am. Increase 1776 lost his son to Diabetes. That's a real riot hah? Imagine if your daughter did not live, IMAGINE BURYING YOUR OWN DAUGHTER. Him and I were exchanging some heartfelt data and thoughts, and you come in with your "South Park/Beavis and Butthead Humor", and think everybody is amused. Wrong!!! There is a time for humor and a time to be serious, and that particular type of humor, does not fit well. Go after Bush, Kerry, the Government, the PERPS, and goof all you want, but lay the F**K off the people hurt by the PERPS.
You owe an apology to this board, Shatoga, Increase, and myself for your obnoxious atitude. |
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CDsNuTz
Joined: 16 Jul 2004
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Location: Down the hill a bit |
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:21 pm
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Man you are seriouly delusional, F*CK YOU AND ANY other spineless person in here that may agree with you.Personally i feel everyone here minus 1 or 2 are to brainwashed and scared to say anything to you, about you. You relentlessly bash someone countless times. With out a doubt you think what you say goes.You think you know exactly who i am by a few of my posts.Well about all you know is diabetes and if everyone doesnt know as much as you about diabetes they're scum in your eyes.Again F*CK YOU, F*CK OFF and dont bother replying as ill never be here again to see you spew your ignorance around.theres to many places around the web to sit here and be bashed by some miniscule minded individual as yourself.Your wish has come true you F*CKIN LOSER,Im gone.And one more note I fully believe that their is a scam running before our eyes being perpitrated by our government. i wasnt here to debunk anyone, i wasnt here to cause problems.Obviously Swampgas saw a free thinkin idividual, unafraid to express his point of veiw and to stand up to tyrants that want to run the show.All you need to rethink your postions on who are the DEBUNKERS around here. |
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Swamp Gas
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:37 pm
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Good riddance!
You have the Freedom of Speech and I have the Freedom of Listening.
A white man does not go into a black bar in South Bronx and yell, "Hey stupid niggers". Like wise, a black man does not go into a redneck bar in Lubbock texas and yell, "Stupid white honkeys".
You see, if I don't know something, I ask, or stay out of the thread.
For instance, I am not a big UFO person. It is not to say there is or isn't UFO's, and maybe people have had experiences, but I would not go into the UFO thread, and try to derail it, becuase I lack knowledge of it. I quietly stay in the background, and observe, and see where the conversation is drifting. Maybe I can learn something. That's how I found out about chemtrails. By listening to the people that knew more than I did. That's how you gain knowledge, by being quiet and absorbing, not by being a loud knothead.
So, World, you have seen CDsNUTZ in action. Too immature to realize that the people with more experience in illness were not amused by his/her rantings.
And again, I DO KNOW ABOUT DIABETES, through and through, and perhaps the 500 people reading the thread realizes that, and are reading from someone who has experience. |
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JerseyBluEyz
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:24 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Swamp Gas
Yeah,
It's a real Yuk it up JerseyBlueyz, isn't it? I have heard you slamming somebody pretty hard when it did not suit your fancy.
Nobody has ridiculed the current hardship you are in, and in fact, we have lent our hand to help you. So much for reciprocal help. Imagine if somebody made light of your marriage, or your employment situation. Would you find the humor in it? It is so easy to laugh at gutter humor when it is not you who are being the target.
thanks a load...JBE
What the heck was THAT for? And what does Yuk it Up mean? So this nastiness is now being carried from one person to another? My hope in responding here was that the 2 of you would calm your tempers and stop it with the bashing before it got to THIS point! From my view CDsNutz was trying at humor regarding Teflon and veins. His comments were not directed at anyone that has or is exposed to diabetes! It was NOT a personal attack. How could he have known someone here lost a family member to the disease when I didn't know that myself? I lost my father to diabetes and alcohol abuse a little over a year ago. I’d say the pain is still pretty fresh in my mind! My older sister is a diabetic and has to take insulin daily. I have a handful of other family members that are diabetic as well AND my daughter is possibly pre-diabetic. So there ARE others here that have been and ARE exposed to the disease.
From what I remember, when CDsNutz jumped at Shatoga he apologized for that transgression when it was brought to his attention. So much for forgiveness and moving on! As far as someone making light of my EX marriage and my job situation...thank you for bringing my personal life to the board. I can't say I'd do the same. Something you do not see is that there IS a big difference between someone purposefully making fun of a situation and someone simply trying to fit in on a board. Even with my exposure to the disease, I did not see malicious intent behind the original Teflon comment. It just goes to show how one mistake, if not corrected, leads to others. |
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Swamp Gas
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:34 pm
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, now the big "negotiator". You obviously did not read all that was posted on that thread, and CDNUTCASE said that crap AFTER Increase initially said he lost his son to Diabetes. Increase said that twice in fact.
You should have stayed out of it, or in the case of some other people at the Diabetic thread, DID NOT see his "humor". He was not funny. I'm glad there are still people who stick up for what's right and are not afraid to speak up, and be "neutral". (Which you are obviously not, since you are sticking up for Coconuts) As I said to David, things like this really get to show you who your friends are, and who are fly-by-nights.
How would you feel if you lost your daughter to a disease and somebody made light of it? Perhaps you should read what I posted, and instead of pug-nosing your way into here, maybe you could learn how to avoid a disease that is obviously waiting for you, since it runs in the family. And where did I make light of your situation? I SAID, "What if someone made light of it?". Why would I do that to you? Maybe you are thinking of someone else.
Now why don't you re-read that thread from the beginning and maybe you won't be so defensive of that little worm. I guess you didn't read his lovely farewell speech did you in this thread?
As far as your personal life, don't defend perpetrators, and you won't get caught in the crossfire.
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snakelady
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:41 pm
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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
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Swamp Gas
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:59 pm
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Thanks for the breath of fresh air, Snakelady!
John was an incredible poet, songwriter, member of a personal top 5 band of mine, vegetarian, musician, and generally said what he thought. He stood up for the little guy, the downtrodden, and for that he gets shot, under nefarious circumstances, by "a crazed lone gunmen". (Yeah right!)
Perps are everywhere, and they come in all shapes and sizes.
We still miss you John......  |
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JerseyBluEyz
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:23 pm
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All this because I don’t agree that there was malicious intent behind CDsNutz’s words? How interesting. Do you feel justified now for everything you’ve accused me of in this thread? For someone that claims they take up for the underdog you show no tolerance when you believe someone else does it huh? Yes, I read his speech and it was as full of venom as YOUR words were toward him. I admit to missing the part when Increase talked about his son (sorry Increase!) but it still does not change my belief that he ORIGINALLY meant no harm. At least he tried to apologize.
As far as a disease waiting for me, that would all depend on how one believes diseases become evident in the first place. I believe ALL diseases are brought on by incorrect mind patterns that manifest into the physical body. Diseases are merely a symbolic representation of an issue that requires correction. They are our own personal lessons in life. There must be a balance between body, mind, and spirit in order to stay healthy. The reason a particular method of healing does not work for everyone is because we all have our own idea of what “HELPS”. Taking care of your body IS important, but so is having a good mental outlook on life AND having a spiritual connection. Without a proper balance in these areas, disease is created.
The symbolism behind diabetes is: a longing for what might have been, a great need to control, deep sorrow, and/or no sweetness left in life. I see some and even all of these patterns within particular family members. When I was my daughter’s age, I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic too. I believe the way I look at life’s circumstances has kept that disease at bay. I also do not believe that my outlook on life is going to change drastically any time soon so I am not concerned about manifesting diabetes. As far as my daughter goes, I can only hope and pray that she does the same. Yes, I’ve discussed the symbolism behind the disease with her - time will tell in her case anyway. |
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Swamp Gas
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:05 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by JerseyBluEyz
As far as a disease waiting for me, that would all depend on how one believes diseases become evident in the first place. I believe ALL diseases are brought on by incorrect mind patterns that manifest into the physical body. Diseases are merely a symbolic representation of an issue that requires correction. They are our own personal lessons in life. There must be a balance between body, mind, and spirit in order to stay healthy. The reason a particular method of healing does not work for everyone is because we all have our own idea of what “HELPS”. Taking care of your body IS important, but so is having a good mental outlook on life AND having a spiritual connection. Without a proper balance in these areas, disease is created.
The symbolism behind diabetes is: a longing for what might have been, a great need to control, deep sorrow, and/or no sweetness left in life. I see some and even all of these patterns within particular family members. When I was my daughter’s age, I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic too. I believe the way I look at life’s circumstances has kept that disease at bay. I also do not believe that my outlook on life is going to change drastically any time soon so I am not concerned about manifesting diabetes. As far as my daughter goes, I can only hope and pray that she does the same. Yes, I’ve discussed the symbolism behind the disease with her - time will tell in her case anyway.
It's all chemistry, and please don't pull an "Andrew Weil" or "Boomerchick" on me. You say you can eat whatever you want put on excess weight, and everything will be OK because you have "nice' thoughts. Bullshoot! Nothing irritates me more than a religious kook that thinks that things are OK because they "believe". What about babies that get cancer?
I got Diabetes from vaccines and excess sugar. No "Bad thoughts", no "previous lifetimes", no believing in devils instead of angels. You are on the outside looking in, and not very scientific, and therein lies the problem. Herbs, vitamins, exercise, and proper nutrition will make you a positive person. I feel like I am dealing with the Inquistors or the Flat Earth Society when dealing wityh people like yourself.
Would then bad marriage be a symbolism too, if it like a disease? What is it symbolic of? Incorrect "Mind patterns"I am with my one and only for 33 years, and watch everybody divorcing around me. I guess it's my "Negative thoughts' that keep us together or my previous incarnation or angels or whatever. It is Love, and and chemistry. Think what you want, but the way I have held this disease at bay is total chemistry, not the "Woo-Woo's" |
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Thetaloops
Joined: 29 Sep 2003
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:32 pm
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I'm glad that this difference of opinion has finally surfaced. I think it takes science and art more than religion and politics to heal. Anyone who thinks that they can live in this society and not have some issues to deal with, within themselves is living in a fantasy world.
I will admit that the pressure of dealing with Diabetes,the daily fluctuation in sugar and the knowledge that you could die in a few days if you don't take your shots, does put extra stress on you and can make you less tolerant of those who don't have to deal with this huge problem. And especially those who don't recognize that there is something very important about sharing ones pain and knowledge.
We all have pain, but Diabetes deal with it every day. It's very real!!!
Many of us who have other problems, like weight and marital problems, have to deal with them and do deserve understanding. We all deserve respect, if we give it. CDNutz made a wise crack where it wasn't helpful and then proceeded to fuel the arguement when he/she should have backed off. Just like now JBE, your feeling are hurt because you are the only one that is defending CDNutz' remark. Just backoff. We all have baggage that we can use as cannon fodder with each other. Your thoughts are not healing the situation. Your diet and thoughts maybe at the bottom of your dilemma. Maybe by having civil conversations and listening when someone knows more on a subject, it would be more helpful to all. Including CDNutz. |
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Mech
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:45 pm
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"Can't we all just get along?"
Rodney King
Now i'm not going to be hypocritical and say I have never blown my top at someone before...because I have. I'm trying like heck to try and show all posters here repect regardless of their political views or their posting SYLE/or behavior...as long as they show others respect and let them have their free speech without slander.
This petty fighting has to stop. Some goodhearted ribbing, criticism is fine..but when it turns into a venom spitting contest....all the reasons why we come and post on a bulletin board go out the window.
Have I had my "sensibilities" (If you want to call it that) offended? Absolutely. But I try like hell not to throw mud...unless it was thrown first. We are all not perfect.
I see CDznuts and Swamp Gas as BOTH VALUEABLE additions to CTC. Do they clash? Yes...but NONE of us have the same personas.
My 2 cents.
I would hate to see either of you go..but I have to do whatt I have to do.
So please...no more slander guys.
All is forgiven
Mech |
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