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zabode
Joined: 15 Oct 2000
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where are the concerned citizens on this board?
 Fri Oct 20, 2000 8:36 pm
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it seems to me -- a new member admittedly -- that this board is crawling with full-time debunkers and condescending (yet evasive), self-proclaimed experts on all aspects of the chemtrail/contrail conundrum (from the vagaries of climate, to the technicalities of any and all aircraft, to the psychology of conspiracy theorists). why are these knowledgable people wasting their time with us crackpots? more to the point, why don't they just tell us what it is we ARE seeing in the skies over our respective cities and be done with all the rampant speculation altogether? i for one would be most reassured to get a convincing explanation for the furrows, grids, crosses, wagon wheels, intermittent and black trails that appear on some days but not others. i may not be an all-around expert like falcon et al. -- but i can spot an anomaly when it's filling the sky over my head. |
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Sore Throat
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Sat Oct 21, 2000 3:01 am
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"Most of the contrails you see, probably over 90%, are normal commercial traffic at high altitudes."
Well gee Rooster, are you finally saying that ALL is not normal?
What of the other 10%?
What a revelation! |
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Sat Oct 21, 2000 3:39 am
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LOL
Good catch Sore Throat!
All people are skeptic, of varying degrees, of most subjects. Chemtrail activist have just as many questions as skeptics to the subject. The only difference is we know a chemtrail when we see one, whereas Jay only sees them 10% of the time.
hehehe
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LTC8K6
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Sat Oct 21, 2000 4:04 am
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Yeah, Throat, what a catch. We found out that you don't know what commercial means and a believer fell right in with you.
What about us unconcerned citizens lying here in our hammocks sipping sweet iced tea, oblivious to the deadly spray raining down upon us?
Oh the humanity! |
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Sat Oct 21, 2000 4:28 am
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LTC
We found out that you don't know what commercial means and a believer fell right in with you.
This believer, who knows how to read, can see that Jay's 90% is refering to "the contrails we see".
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LTC8K6
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Sat Oct 21, 2000 5:41 am
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And the rest of the "contrails you see" are military or private or other government aircraft emitting water vapor and a little engine exhaust.
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Sat Oct 21, 2000 5:49 am
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>it seems to me -- a new member admittedly -- that this board is crawling with full-time debunkers and condescending (yet evasive), self-proclaimed experts on all aspects of the chemtrail/contrail conundrum<
Wow for a newbie you talk the terminology quite well zabode, Jay is an expert in this study, as far as the rest I don't know, I was once as you and took the william thomas 'speel' for real.....right down to telling my mother and wife to keep the kids in on "heavey spraydays". I know better now thru the last year and a half....and you will too if you quit letting people "chemmies" lead you around by the nose...think for yourself, talk to people who know and read ..dammit !
You have been mislead into believing that the government has debunkers on payroll, please!... considering how much they pay for hammers and toilet seats...I reckon I could spot a paid disinformant two or three sentences into a paragraph....this subject is interesting , and so are the people, I have made some good friends on both sides of this issue, talked with scientists, meteorologists, engineers and pilots...
Your statements sound like the same tired old rhetoric heard on the carnicom board and from chemtrail promoters...being banned from there was the best thing to happen to me.....
BTW, it's a helluva lot of fun too !
You use the word 'debunk', bunk in escence is BS, are you saying chemtrails are BS?
and to be a debunker would be to remove the BS ?
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 12:34 am
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Jay,
I had a flight tracker installed at one time...and it was very impressive. However, the commercial flights coming in and out of Tampa International are not the planes I would see, nor were they leaving any trails. Now having a flight tracker showing military jets would be something to put your teeth into, but as you already know, they don't exist for us.
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LTC8K6
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 12:40 am
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Here's a guy who is wearing a respirator mask to protect him from the EDB he believes is being sprayed on him.
http://www.wfeca.net/users/clbjc/KOSMOS/A113.htm
First of all we know the EDB deal is bogus.
Second of all EDB is toxic through skin absorption, so a respirator mask is useless as protection.
How is anyone supposed to take this seriously?
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 1:14 am
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Christy,
The point to flight explorer is that it shows you what is there, if there is not a representation there you would know by default it is military or NWO reptilians, in addition FE does show zones that are 'blocked' off for military (moa)....
Check it out:
http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/fe/review.html
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elvis lives
Joined: 30 Sep 2000
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Location: Pismo Beach, California |
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 1:27 am
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zabode...sedona?...NewWorldHorror?...
This is the first post of yours I have read, but you sound a lot like Dianne Harvey, who poses as sedona and newworldhorror on the carnicom.com board. If I am wrong, my apologies. If I am right...no apology required.
Dianne is a global conspiracy 'freak' and she will do anything...even lie...to shove "chemtrails" down your throat.
Most of her posts are pages long...(I am normally asleep before the first paragraph ends) You can usually sum up what she is trying to say in 10 words or less.
She is only happy when the carnicom board is buzzing with doomsayer threads. (the piranha personna)
Cliff is currently featuring her "Petition for Disclosure" on the front page of the carnicom web site. They are partners in crime and she is intrical in having anyone who questions her actions..removed.
Dianne's mission is to make sure the frenzy continues...uninterrupted...so she can post her pages and pages of doom and gloom. (that nobody reads)
So zabode....I can spot Dianne with any nic, after only a few posts. Please respond to this if you would.
Thanks and good luck to you.
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 1:32 am
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Yes, that's what I was doing Gregg. As I was mentioning before, that when I compared the viewed chemtrails with the flight tracker, they weren't commercial airlines...the commercial jets that were on flight tracker were not the ones leaving the trails.
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elvis lives
Joined: 30 Sep 2000
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Location: Pismo Beach, California |
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 1:43 am
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"Yes, that's what I was doing Gregg. As I was mentioning before, that when I compared the viewed chemtrails with the flight tracker, they weren't commercial airlines...the commercial jets that were on flight tracker were not the ones leaving the trails."
Hummmmm.....oke dokie....Must have been Military aircraft then. (1000's of flights daily) |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 10:22 am
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DELETED BY THE ARTIST FORMALLY KNOWN AS CYDONIAQUEST
[Edited 2 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 01-13-2001] |
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zabode
Joined: 15 Oct 2000
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Location: SLC, UT, USA |
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Sun Oct 22, 2000 11:06 pm
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yo, elvis:
zabode here. or is that sedona. no, it's definitely zabode. don't apologize, really. being a "conspiracy freak" myself, i can handle being mistaken for diane harvey. now if you'd taken me for falcon or jay reynolds, THAT would've hurt my feelings. 
speaking of whom: jay, old boy, why would i want to subscribe to this "flight explorer" product when it's not normal air traffic that unduly worries me. obviously your tekkie toy doesn't track military aircraft. i have to give you credit: you really are as adept at obfuscating the issues as the sprayplane pilots are the skies over our cities.
and falcon: what the hell is a synoptic chart anyway? are you an astrologer? |
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