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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:59 am
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He seems to function best at discrediting rational opponents of the one party rule police state.
Mostly good information with just enough disinformation to convince people to waste their only chance to stop the current one party rule police state by recognizing which party is actually imposing the police state.
Far more importantly, he ignores factual history which proves the other party was merely accused of wanting to impose a police state.
eg: NRA disinformation/propaganda
"Clinton will take away your guns." and
"Gore will take away your guns." lies.
(proven to be lies by the fact that most of US bought more guns during the Clinton Presidency)
If only people like Alex Jones could stop hating today's Democrats because of the actions of yesterday's Dixiecrats.
Former Dixiecrats have changed party affiliation and joined the New World Order party's neo-cons to remain a part of the ruling elite.
He seems to function best at discrediting rational opponents of the one party rule police state. |
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KNOW-THIS

Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Posts: 3694
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Re: Patriot Act 2
Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:58 pm
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quote: Originally posted by Swamp Gas
It would call for broad new powers for law enforcement agencies, they said, and would include new authority to conduct electronic surveillance in terrorism investigations.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6375762
Ashcroft Says Likely to Appeal U.S. Patriot Act Ruling
Thu Sep 30, 2004 05:54 AM ET
SCHEVENINGEN, Netherlands (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said on Thursday the Bush administration was likely to appeal against a U.S. District Court ruling that part of the Patriot Act was unconstitutional.
"Without knowing the specifics, I wouldn't be able to assure you that the case would be appealed, but it is almost a certainty that it would be appealed," Ashcroft told reporters after meeting European Union justice and interior ministers.
"We believe the act to be completely consistent with the United States' Constitution," he added.
On Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero ruled that surveillance powers granted to the FBI under the Patriot Act, a cornerstone of the U.S. war on terror, were unconstitutional.
In the first decision against a surveillance portion of the act, Marrero ruled for the American Civil Liberties Union in its challenge against what it called "unchecked power" by the FBI to demand secret customer records from communication companies, such as Internet service providers or telephone companies.
Ashcroft said the Bush administration would continue "to use every tool" available under the constitution to fight terrorism.
EU and U.S. officials met in the Dutch sea-side resort to discuss how to boost the fight against terrorism, including improved information exchange, cutting off financing and safeguarding borders without hampering trade and travel. _________________ "You find me offensive? I find you offensive, for finding me offensive" |
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CDsNuTz

Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 950
Location: Down the hill a bit |
Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:58 am
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Hmmm,I smell a ploy to put the American people back to sleep,Justice for the un-justice.I can hear them saying "See the checks and balances do work." BULLSH&T
Another bunch a crap to lull everyone back to lala land.Just in time for what ever it is the bullsh&tters have planned. |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:01 am
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In the AP story in our local paper,
It is mentioned that the Judge's ruling does not have any effect.
the bush administration will keep on keeping on until their extreme court chooses to rule on the appeal.
No change!
Perception is reality?
Nope, the ruling is useful propaganda to lull us back into believing the rubber stamp courts have actually limited the power of our current one party rule police state.
anybody else notice recent court rulings serve to energize Bush's base and lull the opposition into complacency?
Self evident to some of us.
"That's the kind to Liberal we'll send to the camps first." comment about me at NJonline politics. |
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CDsNuTz

Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 950
Location: Down the hill a bit |
Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:15 am
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On CMT tomorrow
Show Time
Sat., Oct. 9 4:00 PM ET/PT
TV Schedule
All those gun-totin', Sun-Tzu reading, NASCAR-watching, Oliver Stone-thinkin' types are out there. Best of all, most of them love to talk. And shoot. Everything's a conspiracy, everyone's suspect and maybe, just maybe, they might make half a bit of sense. CMT Most Shocking: Survivalists seeks out the backwoods patriots and front-office spokesmen for those who prepare, week in and week out, for the moment when destiny and circumstance call. We track the training and tactics of the Michigan Core Militia: Wolverines, an organization nearly 100,000 strong. We spend time with Alex Jones, the Drudge of the anti-New World Order echelon. We even search the hills and forests seeking those who range even farther off the beaten path, turning their backs on a society they feel has gone so far astray. |
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Mech

Joined: 06 Jun 2001
Posts: 8237
Location: THE 4th REICH USA |
Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:01 am
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I love how Alex goes after that Elitist David Gergen and also Michael Moore...PROVING ONCE AGAIN, that Alex is neither left, nor right.
What this corrupt government has planned for the people of this country the majority have NO IDEA about and most likely are UNWILLING to SEE THE ILLUSION for what it is.
We ARE losing our freedoms and our country.
It was sold down the river long ago and Alex's new coming film only documents the TRUTH of what is happening. |
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Swamp Gas

Joined: 06 Jun 2001
Posts: 4254
Location: On a Hill in the Lowlands |
Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:45 am
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Speaking of Michael Moore:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/30/93015.shtml
WHat the hell side is this guy on anyway. He is not pushing for a recount.
Michael Moore: 'Bush Got More Votes'
Democrat conspiracy mongers currently pushing for a recount in Ohio in hopes of overturning the presidential election got no help last night from conspiracy monger-in-chief, Michael Moore, who told "Tonight Show" host Jay Leno that President Bush won the contest fair and square.
Asked why Democratic hopes went up in smoke on Election Day, Moore said simply, "I think Bush got more votes."
"The Republicans - I'll give them this - they had a story to tell," the Bush-bashing filmmaker conceded. "The Democrats, oftentimes, aren't very good at telling a story."
Moore explained:
"And the [Bush] story was: Out of the ashes of September 11 rose one man. And he stood on the rubble of lower Manhattan with a bullhorn and he said, 'I will protect you.'
"And he did," Moore added, as the audience began to applaud. "And we were never attacked again."
Dressed in a business suit and clean-shaven for the first time in years, Moore couldn't resist inserting the caveat: "That has nothing to do with whether we will be attacked again."
Still, his advice to disgruntled Dems had nothing to do with recounts or stolen elections or voter disenfranchisement.
"[Bush's victory] was just a couple of percentage points," the chastened-sounding movieman said. "People who voted for Kerry shouldn't be depressed at this point. They should pick themselves up. ... There's another game in four years. And we'll come back and do the best we can." _________________ Heard it from a pilot who spoke real gooooood! |
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Mech

Joined: 06 Jun 2001
Posts: 8237
Location: THE 4th REICH USA |
Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:19 am
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It was a FALSE choice to begin with this election cycle.
Just like it will be in 2008 when Schwartzenazi VS Hillary will ALSO be a false choice. |
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Jeanie

Joined: 18 Nov 2001
Posts: 1323
Location: North East U.S.A. |
Bad choices
Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:16 am
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Mech says:::
"Just like it will be in 2008 when Schwartzenazi VS Hillary will ALSO be a false choice."
Just when you think it can't get any worse, IT DOES !!!  |
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