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julianpenrod
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Location: west caldwell, new jersey, united states |
more comments on aberrant weather
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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net
September 17, 2004
Letters to the Editor
To all:
Incidences of anomalous, if not absolutely aberrant, weather continue to accumulate.
Hurricane Ivan is a major point of interest, now, after its hitting the Gulf Coast so strongly. It's been around for at least a week now, and, for most of that time, it was classified as a category 5. Tuesday, September 14, 2004, a meteorologist on the News 12 New Jersey channel acknowledged that, previously, category 5 storms lasted only a couple of days, or so. Something in the atmosphere seems to be maintaining the strength of this hurricane.
In the Pacific Ocean, meteorologists are saying, El Nino is starting to take form exceptionally early, this year. It also is in a strange spot, being more toward the middle of the ocean, than near the coasts of Mexico or northern South America. A look at the map of water vapor for the northern hemisphere, on weather.unisys.com, will reveal that this seems also the same area where a huge evidently abnormally water vapor free region persists over the ocean!
These two incidents seem to have something in common. I have pointed out that it seems that one purpose of chemtrails was to infiltrate the air with a substance that reacts to temperature change less readily, but potentially more drastically, than water, storing up more energy than water, then releasing huge amounts when it condenses. It simulates water's actions in the air, but more powerfully, releasing much more energy. This seems the reason for the "land hurricanes" of 2003 and early 2004. Being, likely, more volatile than water, this substance may be dropping with rain, but evaporating more quickly from the soil than water, taking much of the heat energy with it. Already, soil temperatures seem less than they should be, and, because latent heat in the ground is what can help mediate winter cold, this may indicate a particularly bad winter, this year! This may also be a source of energy for Ivan, allowing it to stay so powerful far longer than any previous such storm! And, because this may mix with water, yet is not water, when it evaporates out into the air, it will not, likely, show up on water vapor satellite pictures. There seem many occasions when strangely vacant patches occur on satellite pictures of water vapor, and many of them are over the oceans! It seems bizarre for the oceans to have regions depleted of water vapor, but, if this strange material is entering the atmosphere, it can explain how air above open bodies of water can be all but empty of water vapor! The strange vacant spot in the Pacific seems one of these areas, and that may be what's causing the anomalous El Nino there, this year!
Almost appropriate for the threads on a strange "intruder signal" and on "hidden news" is a report, Tuesday, September 14, 2004, of a problem with the "communications system with high flying aircraft" in California! One description represented the communications system as having "collapsed"! More than 800 planes were, supposedly, affected! Delays were forced for 400 flights, and 600 were cancelled. It was assured, however, that there were "alternate methods" the ground could use to communicate with the higher planes, so no one should worry! Interestingly enough, though, about the only place I heard this was The Larry King Show! It wasn't on the news Wednesday, at all, not the early news, not the afternoon news, nor the late news! This seems to have been banished from mention altogether! The only other reference I saw was in the Thursday, September 16, 2004 edition of The New York Times, at the bottom of page A16! About the only way to get less exposure is to just drop the story down a well!
It should be mentioned that the New York Times article mentioned a couple of cases where planes came within about 1500 feet of each other vertically, but did not collide. The article indicated that, at the beginning of 2005, planes will be allowed to approach within 1000 feet of each other vertically. This impinges on another point I have mentioned, namely that, increasingly, flights seem to be opting for lower and lower altitudes! Many planes are noticeably lower than 3 ½ miles, even flying at normal speed! There seems to be something higher up that they are afraid of. If the “collapse” of the communications system isn’t due to the intruder signal, it could come from the evidently increasing contamination they are pumping high up, or, perhaps, from some kind of natural retaliation to the perverting of weather that has been going on! Even without communications problems, many jets seem to avoid something that is up there at about 7 miles height! The increasing retaliation by nature against “weather modification” may be what is forcing planes to fly at lower altitudes. And, if they are flying lower down, in less air space, obviously, they will have to allow for planes to fly closer together! This new provision by the FAA seems tacit acknowledgement that, in desecrating the world, they have angered the Almighty!
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
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Location: SW coast of Oregon |
| Great Stuff Julian
Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:54 pm
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Julian, you have my admiration for always connecting the dots
Seems I was just reading the San Francisco paper page A7 Friday
where reporter Leslie Miller's story "Air traffic control faces budget cutback"
tells of Hamid Ghaffari (president of the local air traffic controllers union)
He says their budget is being cut 14% by bushco, while FFA PREDICTs flights will be up 24% by 2015.
WHAT FLIGHTS? Well it goes on to say "a combination of Commercial, Cargo, General, and MIliTary FLIGHTS". Since the general commercial aviation companys seem to be declaring bankrupsy due to decreased flights,
well connect the dots
.....<dots
Hamid goes on to say "Some programs have been decreased because there is not a pressing need for them in the next decade, those programs are in the begining stages of development"
you have got to stuff those decreaseing numbers of commercial flights into an area where they won't "bump into" the INCREASEING "military" operation.
So FAA, has to jam the PEOPLE into a dangerous tighter lower configuration
AND since the FAA has to "run two sets of books"
one for the "real planes" and one for the planes that you can see, but "are not there",
it gets "tricky"
next to this story was the story about increased funding so "airport Security"
can make you take off your jacket in screening
Now onto the water vapor issue
I am 5 weeks into an agricultural harvest operation
unfortunately it has been hampered by unseasonable rain storms
every morning i get on the satelittes to look at the infared, water vapor, fog, and visible sat channels, and then read the forcast before the crew calls to see if we are working today.
This has been a real eye opener
for instance yesterday the NOAH forcast a 70% chance of rain, I saw a thin band of Infared and water vapor, that i figured would hit us about 9 AM
So we worked close to the shed until it passed over, then went out into the field
No rain happened until 2:20 PM and 4:30 PM when NOTHING showed on the sat images
several weeks ago we got 2 1/2 inches of rain, while the sats showed NO WATER VAPOR, NO INFARED signature
So when you are talking about "another substance"... |
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
| Haze
Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:08 pm
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I keep thinking about the morning and evening haze I have been seeing the last few years. It is not like fog, it has a more glaucoma look to it, like billions of miscroscopic dust particles.
They seem to drop near ground level when the heat energy of the sun wanes in the late day, and rise when the suns energy return the next morning. Coincidently, the body aches and pains and other symptoms seem to become worse when these particulates are nearest the ground and lessen when they are "volitized" upwards.
You could pretend it is just old age and bad eyesight, and para noyah
but unfortunately it can be caught on film
and even effects animals who haven't got a clue about "conspiracies"
Clifford Carnicom has precipitated, concentrated and analysed this particulate gathered from rainwater, and filter samples, has found it in high elevation "pristean" parks. Al and Ba seem to be common.
I wonder about the tons of MTBE that have been added to the environment in the name of "cleaning the air" by a mandate of EPA
MTBE, as an ether, has high volitility and very high affinity for latching onto water. At one point the State of California mandated 11% MTBE of the volume of gasoline, in other words when you put 10 gallons in your tank, a little over 1 gallon of that was MTBE. Think about how many gallons that would add up in even one day of normal California driving.
Originally it was the "enviromentalists" that demanded that "oxygenated gasoline" (MTBE or Ethanol) be mandated, then after the MTBE disaster was
noted, the "environmentaists" blamed the oil companies for something the oil companies fought doing in the first place.
"please don't throw me in the briar patch" said little red rabbit... |
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
| what the weather gods did
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:12 am
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
| elect she ion
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:36 am
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the de mice front running
shoch wired and trained
upon a string a yard long
pity to vote for them
dan rather you would elven care
for to care for the truely depraved
shows a true hole
in your plan of salvation
but perhaps you want to gather the most toys?
i grew up with you in the play pen
and soon graduated
to feeding myself
and wipeing my own ass
i still piss my mind off
while ashcroft beems me to
what i have yet to know
do you think "ignorence" can save
will these i dont know words
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
| elect she ion
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:37 am
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doubled up in defenceive reaction
killing hope everywhere it existes
look up and see life woke you up here in this jungle of words
to make reality face itself |
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
| angering of the all mighhty
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:51 am
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oh you bet, the all mighty is "rather" pissed
what a temper his steal has
so reverbiant
more so than human spine will
able to leap long witch burning spans of time
without a clause (sT)
when the climate was dark and wonderfull
the glaciers advancinceing
crushing your home
wolves eating your young ones
oh that was the time...
we want to return two,
againe |
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julianpenrod
Joined: 07 Mar 2002
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Location: west caldwell, new jersey, united states |
| comments on hurricanes
Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:08 am
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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net
September 28, 2004
To all:
Anomalous and abnormal facts continue to pile up, with respect to this hurricane season.
Hurrican Ivan, it is revealed, formed closer to the equator than any previous recorded hurricane. Also, despite having presumably dissipated, Ivan is going to hit the Gulf Coast again! It turns out that, supposedly, a "piece of Ivan" broke away, before it hit Florida, and has continued to grow on its own. It now has winds upwards of 60 mph, just short of being a hurricane, but there seems a degree of reticence in declaring that it is at least a "tropical storm", since that would call attention to the anomalous circumstance of a storm coming back after it decayed!
It should be mentioned that the apparent build up of the storm system occurred in the northern portion of the Caribbean, near the coast of Texas.
This happens to be the same area that, on water vapor maps from weather.unisys.com, is abnormally dark. It's identified as an area of "dead water", from pesticide run-off down the Mississippi. In fact, it seems to be an area of uniquely low water vapor, because of a preponderance of an alien substance washed down the rivers into the ocean. This alien material seems to be what was pumped into the air to take the place of water in weather causation, since it is more reactive than water. Being so reactive, it seems to have been part of the formation of "land hurricanes" during 2003 and early 2004. It can form water-like hurricanes even over land.
In fact, a "land hurricane" seems to have formed near the western portion of the Great Lakes, at around the time that Jeanne was approaching Florida. This can be seen in the picture below.
It seems to be the reactive quality of this alien material, in Gulf Coast waters, that re-invigorated the remnant of Ivan, and brought it up almost to the level of a hurricane!
In fact, abnormally energized atmosphere and water may be contributing to the strong hurricane season, this year!
It's already mentioned, for example, that August and, already, September, this year, broke the record for the most named storms!
And more may develop later!
And, with Jeanne hitting Florida, this is the first time since the beginning of keeping track that Florida has been hit four times in one season! It’s also the first time in apparently more than a century that any state has been hit four times in a century!
And more may develop!
That this is an apparently truly active season, joining the last few in a row, seems obvious. Indeed, on the CNN program Next, on Saturday, September 25, National Weather Service meteorologists seem to have found it necessary to “put a cap on” the evident bizarreness of the weather. To do this, they advanced the idea that hurricane activity goes in cycles of 25 to 40 years, with extremely powerful storms being found during one cycle, but not another. That this would have been obvious long ago, if true, is also obvious! Also, a cycle, supposedly, should “ease into” another cycle; in 1998, the activity of hurricanes and tropical storms in the Atlantic, essentially, seems to have suddenly erupted! Significantly, too, when looking at the record of hurricanes, in the past, to go with my last post in this thread, I looked into records going back to about 1975! It looks very much as if someone was watching at the records I was looking at, and deciding to cobble together an ad hoc “explanation” for the behavior of storms that I was looking at!
In fact, a look at the weather in the last few decades does indicate some things.
Below is a chart of both the number of Atlantic hurricanes since 1975, and the total number of significant weather occurrences, during the hurricane seasons since 1975.
A number of points are immediately obvious. One is that the number of hurricanes, it seems, has oscillated around an average of 5 or 6! Even this year seems no different! The magnitudes may differ greatly, from one year to the next, but the number seems to stay within that area! The total number of storms, however, also oscillates, but it does so around a value that seems to be steadily increasing! Notice, too, that the lowest number of both hurricanes and total storms, in the last decade, was 1997! The year of what was termed “the worst El Nino of the 20th century”, and also the year, it is generally accepted, that wholesale chemtrailing began!
The next chart shows the number of just tropical storms in the Atlantic, since 1975.
Unsurprisingly, it does seem to increase. In fact, it seems to oscillate around an almost constant value until the mid to late Nineties, then it takes off! For those familiar, it seems to follow something close to an exponential curve. For such a curve, an important point is where the slope is 45 degrees. There, the curve begins to increase significantly. And that seems to occur around 1997, also!
It very strongly appears that there is a connection between chemtrailing and at least the strength of hurricanes in the Atlantic.
But it demonstrates something even more critical!
When they set the date for the beginning of large-scale chemtrailing at 1997, such as Cliff Carnicom and Art Bell weren’t using these charts, because they weren’t printed then! They didn’t set the date to conform to an abnormality in the weather patterns! “Debunkers” would accuse that they were aware of strange patterns in hurricane records, centering on 1997, and set the date of 1997 to agree with the beginning of the strange pattern. But they were making the statements about chemtrailing beginning wholesale years ago, long before the appearance of anomalous hurricane and tropical storm numbers! They assigned it based only on their own perceptions of the sudden large-scale appearance of chemtrails in the sky! The weather reports, though, seem to have conformed themselves independently to agree with the date of 1997 as the beginning of something strange happening in the skies!
Just on the basis of this, it would seem, the reality of chemtrails, and their place in weather causation seems established!
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DvdGStwrt
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And then the weather commentator on the Weather Channel and even my local news goes out of their way to say that these hurricanes have nothing to do with Global Warming. 
At each turn they appear to go out of their way to tell us that things are not as they appear, that there are no connections when in fact there are.
Either this is remarkable stupidity on someone's behalf or we are being fed information in such a way to ease us into accepting things in a manner which is acceptable to those who desire to keep a lid on things.
I think that there is an intentional "downplay" on the significance of 4 hurricanes smashing into Florida after several years of very quiet hurricane seasons. I think we are being fed information in such a way to make it all acceptable and help us to accept what ever comes next.
I believe that the silence is as important if not MORE important when it comes to weather phenomena - that calm before the storm could have ramifications which are far reaching. If we assume that chem trail spraying is for mitigation of global warming or purposful weather modification, then was this used in years prior to suppress tropical storms and hurricanes and only this year was not used to gage the impact of the spray program on climate and weather?
I believed a lot of well educated men and women who thought they knew about the mechanics of tropical storms and hurricanes were very surprised as their cherished theories all but fell apart this year as four hurricanes did things which were abnormal or beyond the usual. There will be the usual lack of explanation and as time wears on we will find history rewritten to demonstrate that this hurricane season was well within the norms for hurricanes. I also suspect that the behaviors of these hurricanes will become "normal" events and theories will be brought up that clearly explained away the behaviors. I'm certain that some old dusty documents will suddenly be found which have always been around and have been "accepted" facts. While the meteorologists will stand around hemming and hawing passing of local and global weather patterns as being "expected" even though the previous day's forecast tells a different story. business as usual.
Our memories will be faulty, and our personal experiences of "normal" weather in our life long homes will be wrong compared to the official record of things.
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BigJoe
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Recently, during a day of very heavy spraying, I put this question to one of our local TV weather forecasters;
Big Joe: "Let's be honest with each other. We both know that this overcast that is above us now is artificial. It is not normal, it is not natural and it is being created by the "contrails" from these scores of jets that just entered the airspace over us only a few hours ago. Why can't you be honest with the pubic and tell them the truth about what's going on up there RIGHT NOW?"
Forecaster: "We have been instructed NOT to tell ANY of this to the public, because it would probably scare them"
Big Joe: "You mean it might cause a panic?"
Forecaster: "Yes. All that the public cares about and needs to know is the five day forecast in advance, so that they can plan when to go out and mow their lawns, and when to go out and barbecue on their grills".
Take this conversation for what it's worth, but those were pretty much the exact words that this local TV weather forecaster said to me.
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BigJoe
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Location: A Remote/Well Fortified Complex |
| Art Bell/William Thomas Interview
Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:31 pm
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The Imperfect Storm
By William Thomas
Did An Imperfectly Modified Storm Hit Florida? William Thomas’s fully documented report will reveal how US Air Force tankers using storm-seeding technology developed by a Florida firm have been attempting to break up storm cells off that state since 2001. Were one or more of the three big Atlantic hurricanes menacing the Caribbean attacked with the same chemical compound? Compelling evidence suggests at least one such operation took place – with unintended consequences...
You can download in MP3 or "stream" the whole Art Bell/William Thomas interview of 9/18/04 (The Imperfect Storm) from this link...
http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/The_Imperfect_Storm.htm |
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julianpenrod
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Location: west caldwell, new jersey, united states |
| "snow squalls" in New Jersey
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:11 am
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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net
February 18, 2005
To all:
On Thursday, February 17, 2005, there was a "snow squall", that is, an extremely powerful, very localized snowstorm, over Montclair, New Jersey at about 5:00 p.m. The flakes were about the size of quarters. Early today, Friday, February 18, 2005, there was a "snow squall" over Route 287 in northeaster New Jersey. These are disturbances normally to be expected in spots where extreme cold in one spot can, perhaps, act on a small moving piece of moist air. That is normally the case only for areas like Buffalo, New York, near the Great Lakes. There have never been "snow squalls" in New Jersey before!
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julianpenrod
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Location: west caldwell, new jersey, united states |
| yet more comments on aberrant weather
Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:53 am
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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net
March 8, 2005
To all:
Yesterday, Monday, March 7, 2005, was apparently a universally accepted anomalous day, in New Jersey. In West Caldwell, the temperature rose, at about 3:00 p.m., to about 68 degrees, Fahrenheit. The pressure at about 1:00 p.m. was about 29.76, slightly low, but not greatly so. At about that time, though, I saw the pressure drop by about .03 inches in the space of less than a half an hour, maybe only about fifteen minutes! Today, Tuesday, March 8, 2005, the temperature at 3:00 p.m. was not expected to get above about 30 degrees. At about 1:00 p.m., the pressure was 29.08, which is about the lowest I think I have ever seen it! File this also under "aberrant barometric pressures". At about 1:00 p.m., I saw the recorded temperature in Newark drop by about 3 degrees in less than a half an hour, and maybe only about fifteen minutes!
Interestingly, at about the same time as pressure was changing anomalously, on March 7, a segment came on The Weather Channel, hosted by Jon Nese. Aided by a supposed doctoral title, and a stare similar to what they used to say snakes used to hypnotize little birds, to walk into their mouths, he acts like The Weather Channel's Josef Goebbels, the propaganda minister, who is supposed to assure everyone that, even though things are weird, they actually aren't weird! In this segment, Nese talked about the unusually cold days the Northeast had been experiencing. As he put it “17 out of the last 17 days, Boston’s temperature was below normal, and 15 out of the last 17 days, New Jersey’s temperature was below normal”. His “explanation” was that the jet stream was blowing along the eastern coast of the country, up to the lower edge of Greenland, then reversing, to go back down over Europe. They, too, have had extremely cold weather. England, for example, had had at least 10 snowy days, out of the past 17, Nese claimed. “The diagram looked something like the “Greenland block”, that meteorologists, such as on the WPIX local Channel 11 affiliate, use to try to “explain” the abnormal recent weather, except, in the more general depiction, the jet stream is shown as going north of Greenland, diverted there by a massive cold front resting over the entire island! Dr. Nese, then, may have been talking about something else. But, just as with the “Greenland block”, he was trying to act like the aberrant cold spell was completely “explainable meteorologically.
The way he “explained” it, however, gave an important clue to the falsity of his claims. With respect to the diverting of the jet stream northward, Dr. Nese said, “whenever this happens, it can cause periods of extreme cold in the Northeast”. The phrase, “whenever this happens” is reserved for something that, while, perhaps, infrequent, is not anomalously uncommon! Something that can be described with the words “whenever this happens” is something that you can expect, perhaps, every few years, or so. In that case, then, the cold wave the Northeast has experienced wouldn’t have needed to be treated as specially as Nese was treating it! The temperatures wouldn’t be so far off normal, since the normal average would be at least a couple of degrees lower than it actually is! By using the phrase “whenever this happens”, Nese was evidently trying to impart the suggestion that this severe cold snap, while distinctive, was still not unexpected!
The apparent desperation to give the sense that this is “normal” only underlines the evident abnormality of the situation!
I pointed out that one evident purpose of chemtrails was to spread a substance that would take the place of water in causing weather. One quality of this material is that it loses heat more rapidly than water. Washed down into the soil, by rain, it would prevent the ground from being able to maintain at least some heat, even in the winter, and would exacerbate the cold. I predicted, in an earlier thread, that this would be a particularly harsh winter. We have already had at least three major snowfalls, and, now, a 50 mile per hour wind is lowering temperatures to below 0! During the early weeks of this winter, the weather was unusually mild, and, yesterday, the temperature was almost 70! It may be that, to try to hide the unnatural coldness, due to the strange substance in the air and the soil, the government tried to arrange a warm spell. Perhaps they felt that, if they could bring the temperature up, for a day or so, when the natural unnatural cold hits, it won’t be as bad as it should be!
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