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Thermit
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Analysis of Controversial Broken Trail Photo
 Mon Feb 12, 2001 4:32 pm
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A recent visitor to the site brought up a concern over the following picture. While they were concerned about Chemtrails, they felt this picture was damaging to the credibility of the cause:
Paonia, CO 08/24/1999
This picture is controversial, and has been called into question before. Previous analysis showed that the CCD grid, which manefests as an 8x8 grid patten in digital camera shots and scanned photographs, was consistent across the photograph. This would make editing the photo very difficult, especially with the power line running across the picture.
I've created an image where this 8x8 grid can be seen and marked some of the corners with black dots, to aid in viewing the grid:
There are no detectable signs of editing. |
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WiseQuakker
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Mon Feb 12, 2001 10:22 pm
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Thank you for presenting this analysis, Thermit. From an atmospheric sciences point of view, it’s the abruptness on the edges of the discontinuity that is most disturbing. When I brought out this point at another forum, simple contradiction was all that a much more “learned” individual could come up with. For shame... Common sense tells anyone with a bit of wisdom that in the presense of density variation, there would be evidence of “fading” at the “on/off” points......
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authorizrd504
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Mon Feb 12, 2001 11:24 pm
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I'm no expert on photography, but the linear continuity of the two trails are very inconsistent. Wind shear may have pushed one trail further away and misaligned the original trajectory, but it still looks ... um ... funny. The photo looks like two merged shots. Still, the square ends are disturbing and gives the impression that the trail is manufactured with an on/off process and not natural causes. I guess there was some residual jetwash hanging around up there from last week and the compressor stalled causing the normal contrail to cease being created. Hey, I'm getting the hang of this debunking stuff. Nevertheless, it is a good shot of in-your-face-chemtrail activity. |
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Thermit
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 12:09 am
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Yeah, I wish that there had been a series of shots for this particular photo.
But, hey, look! I found the missing part of the trail!!!
  
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defender
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 1:09 am
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These are identical to chemtrails photos I've taken, and I can guarantee that my photos were not altered in any way. What the camera captured is what I saw with my own eyes. |
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Thermit
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 2:19 am
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01/06/01 Iowa City, IA |
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mark sky
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 3:42 am
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mark sky
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 3:49 am
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"WHY"
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mark sky
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 4:04 am
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alanize this
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mark sky
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 4:07 am
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anoughter view of the above "broken trail"
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Da Jeff D
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 7:19 am
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Hello Fellow travelers,I am a newbie at this forum stuff so bare with me.Ive read your postings for the past week or so and I feel compelled to interject this image(if I figured out how to get it uploaded to here) into debate..Explain this,please! Da Jeff D |
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Thermit
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Tue Feb 13, 2001 4:28 pm
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Is this your picture Da Jeff D?
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Da Jeff D
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Wed Feb 14, 2001 7:50 am
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Aw thank you thermit!Yes this is the picture I was trying to send to you folks to scratch your heads at.I have the loop file too!If you'll place it here somewhere,I'll get it to the sight |
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Thermit
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Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:41 pm
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Bumping this for those that may not have seen the analysis presented in the first post.
Will also mention that contrails can leave broken trails, as I have seen this with my own eyes for verified normal flights with Flight Explorer. However, there are differentiating factors between contrail strips and a Chemtrail strip based on my observations.
Contrail strip
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a. Appears on FE as a normal flight
b. Area of abscence of trail may appear several minutes after the trail is created, as a portion of the contrail sublimates.
c. Area of (non-abscence of) trail has a relatively short persistence.
Chemtrail strip
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a. Does not appear on FE at all.
b. Area of abscence of trail not created by sublimation because it wasn't there in the first place.
c. Area of (non-abscence of) trail has a very high degree of persistence (i.e. several hours) |
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Lulu
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Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:16 pm
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Thank you Thermit for reposting this excellent thread!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Lulu on 08-15-2001] |
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