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RowdyRoddy
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What is to come. A friendly warning
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Im new here and i love all the interesting articles and debates, thats why im telling you all this and hoping at least some of you will believe what i am about to tell you. These are grave times we are living in as americans (especially) I have good accurate knowledge of what we can expect in the next 2-5 years. I want you to all remember this whether you believe this or not....that way when you see these strange things occuring you will see event by event that i was right. many of you already know some of this or have heard some of it but those who have not here goes: Our government here in the United states is striving to make a one world government deemed the new world order. Many world leaders are in fact right now part of of this new order. In order to achieve this they have to take out any leader who is not part of this order and install one who is. such as in iraq and other places coming in the future war.
Now back to bush. Bush placed an order to a texas railcart maker, a huge steel corporation to make 107 thousand plus railcarts (you know what i mean like the railroads use) these railcarts are outfitted with shackles the kind a prison uses. these carts are right now being built and have been being built for a good several years now. Their purpose? ....when this new world order is in place the next thing this one world government is going to do is to abolish ALL religion saying to have world peace religon must be stopped. well of course the general population will be in awe of this and the protests will be massive. This is where the 107k railcarts comes in to play. anyone deemed againsts this new world order is to be taken "away" each cart can hold 30+ people in it. do some math and you will see that, that is a huge number of people. These rail carts are also outfitted with guilotines.....now i know that sounds stupid and crazy but there are numerous accounts of dockworkers opening cargo and discovering mass shipments of modernized guilotines fresh from china. Anyways these guilotines will be place at the front of each railcart as either a warning of what to expect or actually used in them later.
All people deemed enemy of the new world order and this basicly means all christians will be taken in these carts to camps already in place here in the united states. They will be killed in these camps....no ifs or maybes...killed dead. thats basicly what is going to happen but here is first what is going to happen:
Kerry will win the election
kerry knows the war must continue on terrorism.
another big terrorist attack will happen shortly after the election (staged of course, made to look like middle eastern terrorists did it)
Kerry you will notice starts reminding you of bush and the talk of invading syria and iran will take place. Then he will say what has been being said for awhile...we cannot take on this new terrorist threat without a bigger force, thus reenacting the draft. a revised draft that states any american age 18-34 must serve his country. all flights out of the country will be halted, the borders locked down. You will have to serve or be jailed...or worse. with this huge new force with nearly half of americans in uniform now kerry will say north korea is a threat and must be dealt with too.
Now for the bad part. China comes to north korea's aid and we see the bloodiest war in the history of mankind..worse than world war 1 and 2 put together as america keeps sending more americans to their bloody death in north korea fighting not only north korea but china and its allies that stream into north korea. This is a no win situation but has accomplished its main more sinister mission the reduction in the united states population. As the united states is supposed to be transformed into the country of the elite. on the rich will live there, that is the plan. with the richest people taking any land they want ...ala patriot act.
now there is alot more mediocre details i know of but right there is the meat and potatos of it. I truly believe in all this because i found something in my brother inlaws attic when i was snooping one day. I knew he was a freemason for along time but i did not have any real knowledge of what they were and such until i found his secret stash in the attic. i found several papers showing his promotion to 33rd degree mason. further searching led me to a folder labled "Class" i opened it up to find several documents headed by "My Brethren" and found these rather professional looking papers describing what i said above. I'm a skeptical person too but after finding that it really made me open my eyes.
so there you are ...either believe it or not its your choice.
I for one believe because i found it myself and the nature of it all just cannot be made up at all. |
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TheMinstrel
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Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:03 pm
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I'm interested if you know of any published/ posted material available which may allude to these claims, particularly about the railcarts/ guillotines, and the New World Orders sanctioning the extermination of Christians, and abolition of organized religion. Please post some links, if you know of any. preferably from reliable sources, though use your discretion when determining what 'reliable' is.. |
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Mech
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I doubt the illuminati would even have to use railcars like the Nazis. In fact..that certainly would have most peoples alarm bells ringing in their heads...even the most hardcore Bush supporter would question it im sure.
All they have to do is make RACE-SPECIFIC viruses (which they already have) Re-engineer the SPANISH FLU (which they already have) Make vaccines with microchips in them (which they already have), release bio agents that only the GENERAL POPULATION would get sick from (because TPTB are vaccinated from it).
There are SOOOO many ways they could eliminate us. They won't do it right away. They have to bring it in with Incrementalism (Frog in the boiling pot technique), so that hardly anyone will notice whats' happening. A Phony terror attack by the CIA may bring fascist government in quicker just like the REICHTAG FIRE in NAZI Germany did.
Unless we WAKE EVERYONE UP our of their TV INDUCED/CONSUMERIST DAZE to what the NEW WORLD ORDER is and their BEAST SYSTEM they are setting up for a ONE WORLD FASCIST DICTATORSHIP...we will have to FIGHT by any means necessary to stop it from happeing.
Its going to get worse before it gets better.
"What is at stake..is no small country...it is a BIG idea...a NEW WORLD ORDER...."
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Jeanie
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Roddy; Have heard what you reported before. Don't know if the details are correct but this I do know, attack and destruction of religon is foretold in the bible. Prophecy elaborates on just who will survive the greatest attack of all at Armageddon and it won't be "the new world order" of the elite. We'll see how factual you are as these events unfold. Thanks for your input. |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:03 am
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Opinions abound, but the book is clear. (Bible/any translation)
The bad guys shall appear as good xtians and the world's churches will be deceived into following "another gospel" into that one world government.
Only one nation has the power to form that one world government.
only one.
ours
The end days that Jesus guy foretold included:
The situation of current false prophets deceiving even the very elect.
(people worship the god of accumulation of wealth and call it xtianity)
Matthew 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 6 In context: Matthew 6:23-25)
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 19: ) Mark 10: ) Luke 18: )
Read those prophecies about end times with the understanding the current King of Babylon (Iraq) is George W Bush.
(it's his armies fullfilling the scriptures)
For 'who can stand against the military might Bush commands?
Revelation 13:4
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
The expected anti christ and his followers will come as good Christians, if they fullfill scriptures:
Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 7 In context: Matthew 7:14-16)
Matthew 24:11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 24 In context: Matthew 24:10-12)
Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 24 In context: Matthew 24:23-25)
Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 13 In context: Mark 13:21-23)
I videotaped TV evangelist Robetrtson, on his 700 club quoting the scripture that justifies urging Christians to vote Republican.
"Mark 24: 17"
Only problem is I knew at once he was lying.
A call to his organization got "He just reads the teleprompter."
Hey!
I knew at once the book of Mark has no chapter 24.
Why did not the good Reverend who holds a Doctorate of divinity degree?
Doesn't he read the Bible?
"I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise.
There needs to be some kind of protection for
the minority which the white people represent now,
and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."
--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 3/18/92
Sounds more KKK than Christian.
"Konservative Kristian Koalition" that is!
Watch the 700 Club and other TV conservative Christians when they give advice on how to maximize your investments, or daily to hear them rail against "the welfare state":
you know, those programs that follow Christ's teachings: feed the hungry, cloth the naked, shelter the homeless, heal the sick, honor thy parents.
(Aid for Dependent Children, Medicare/Medicaid, Food Stamps, Social Security)
Matthew 25 (please read entire chapter)
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Opinions abound, but the book is clear.
The bad guys shall appear as good xtians and the world's churches will be deceived into following "another gospel" into that one world government.
Only one nation has the power to form that one world government.
only one.
ours |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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>If you're... a Christian, or a Republican, this should scare the Hell out of you.< (context and link below)
>State-By-State Index Of Potential US Concentration Camps
... Although these railcars are painted white, they do have normal ... deals with the disarmament
of the American people ... smuggled into the US by the government, and was ...
www.rense.com/general17/statebystate.htm
sandiego.indymedia.org | More About Concentration Camps in America ...
... and implement the last stages of America’s downfall ... of the state and local governments
by the federal government. ... that was chosen to build railcars that will ...
www.sdimc.org/en/2004/09/105692.shtml
US Concentration Camps
... My information is: 11 companies are building these railcars. ... All of the new concentration
camps are owned ... is NOT an agency of the American government.) - end of ...
www.mindcontrolforums.com/us-concentration-camps1.htm
But...our President is a good man...a man of God...
quote:
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens,
nor should they be considered patriots.
This is one nation under God."-- George Bush
Dej-vu: "a good man...a man of God..."
quote:
"The national government will regard as its first & foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity & cooperation. It will preserve & defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards christianity as the foundation of our national morality, & the family as the basis of national life."
--Adolf Hitler, Proclamation to the German Nation, 2/1/33
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction & a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training & religion must be derived from faith...We need believing people."
--Adolf Hitler, 4/26/33
Almost all bush's speeches can be read in the origional conservative, in the archives of the nation that in WWII foght
"to preserve Western Christian civilization" fought against 'the godless Communists and their allies " the US and Britain were allied with Russia back when Germans were assured:
"Gott Mit Eins"
"United We Stand"
"Ein Volk Ein Reich Ein Fuhrer"
("one people one nation one leader" {Germany's President Adolph Hitler})
Precedent:
Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist." But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production. In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state. True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship -- it can only be democratic. Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right. He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism, nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.
more...
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm
Wake up people!
It wasn't John Kerry that signed the unconstitutional suspension of our entire Constitution and bill of rights.
It was your dear Dubya.
His (R) party wrote it, introduced the bills, controlled the agenda to pass it without anyone having a chance to read it first, and then immediately began locking people up who haven't been charged with any crime, though held in solitary for over two years so far.
Dammit, don't just wave them Bibles...Read them!"
A "unification" movement is underway in the world's churches.
NWO?
America, Britain, Australia, Israel, South Korea, Russia, and other nations ruled by their conservative parties' (one party rule in actuality) already are a one world government under the political leadership of George W Bush and spiritual leadership (via financial support and media ownership) Sun Yung Moon
http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif112.html
>Moon claims on his Web Site
http://www.unification.net
that he had great influence over Reagan. Moon claims he was the one who got Reagan to go for SDI (Star Wars). Moon claims that through the Washington Times,
a Moonie owned newspaper, that he is responsible for Bush winning the presidency...<
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http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/132/33.0.html
>Frederick Clarkson (Eternal Hostility, Common Courage Press, 1997) reports that Moon has stated his goal is the "subjugation of the American government and population." {B}(Clarkson's source: John Judis, "Rev. Moon's Rising Political Influence: His Empire Is Spending Big Money To Try To Win Favor With Conservatives," U. S. News and World Report, March 27, 1989.)
>The Reverend Sun Myung Moon, head of the Unification Church and a self-declared Messiah from South Korea, is a major behind-the-scenes GOP player. His organization owns The Washington Times, the right-wing newspaper Ronald Reagan once called his favorite.<
>Paid speakers at his (Moon's) Family Federation for World Peace have included George Bush, William Bennett, Jack Kemp, and Ralph Reed. In the early 1990s, his organization funneled millions to Jerry Falwell's Liberty University when it was facing staggering debts.<
http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/
> Reverend Moon is a religous nut who is trying to take over the world. Moon openly admits that he thinks he is God and he expects to be worshipped! As you read my Washington Times exerpts from Moon's web site, you will see how deeply rooted the Moonies are in the press, the Christian evangelical movement, and the Republican Party. If you're a member of the Press, a Christian, or a Republican, this should scare the Hell out of you.<
HAS REV. SUN MYUNG MOON PURCHASED THE TOP RIGHT-WING EVANGELISTIC LEADERSHIP LOCK-STOCK-BARREL? http://f4.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0D7fPtv662Lw9k0058J-2tsr0CZjReOypcHoX4JvyJC-IJUzyT5NPhAT5VAC9hbsHTvKOWdmH3F36cOs/Moon.htm
Jesus warned:
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." [Matt 7:15]
"Take heed that no man deceive you." [Matt 24:4 ]
"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." [Matt 24:11]
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets ... insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." [Matt 24:24] Now, that is great deception! I bet everyone deceived by such a false religious leader would protest vociferously that THEY could not possibly be one who is so deceived!
quote:
NEWS BRIEF: "Religious right finds its center in oval office: Bush emerges as movement's leader after Robertson leaves Christian Coalition", by Dana Milbank, Washington Post Staff Writer, Monday, December 24, 2001, Page A02, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19253-2001Dec23.html
"Pat Robertson's resignation this month as president of the Christian Coalition confirmed the ascendance of a new leader of the religious right in America: George W. Bush. For the first time since religious conservatives became a modern political movement, the president of the United States has become the movement's de facto leader ... Christian publications, radio and television shower Bush with praise, while preachers from the pulpit treat his leadership as an act of providence. A procession of religious leaders who have met with him testify to his faith, while Web sites encourage people to fast and pray for the president."
Revelation 13:2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Revelation 13:4
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Surely I am not the only one paying attention?
Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Moonie leader 'crowned' in ...
... of the Unification church, was "crowned" and declared ... individuals directly related
to Rev Moon" took part ... gave permission for the Senate office building to be ...
www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1245929,00.html
Warner Helped the Rev. Moon (washingtonpost.com)
... accounts described a long ceremony in which Moon and his wife were crowned as leaders
of ... who approved the use of the Dirksen Senate Office Building for the ...
www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/articles/A19-2004Jul20.html
There is to be a unification of religion and government in the end days, as the one world government fulfills prophecy:
>... official state religion. On March 23rd 2004 Moon was officially crowned
messiah by Congress in the Senate Dirksen Office Building. ...<
marc.perkel.com/archives/000272.html |
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Swamp Gas
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The Bible aside, I woud be more curious to what the Native American elders foresaw in Peyote sweat lodge ceremonies. Nostradamus used to burn "leaves and potions" (DMT perhaps) when he saw the future.
"The Devil is in the Details"...Now there is a real great quote. imagine if programmers and classical musicians believed that. Religious ideas on a grandiose scale, do not see the little things, like all the people dying in Iraq, or what would a 16 year old knocked up by her uncle do if abortion becomes illegal. Fundamentalists such as Bin Laden and Bush look at this "BIG PICTURE", and see themselves with their own personal god in the future. Never mind what you do to get there in the name of "god or allah".
Ever wonder why The Inquisitors burned the psychedelic mushroom eating pagans, while they themselves were drinking wine? Why can someone get 30 years for possessing LSD, but if you run over a child while drunk, maybe a year in jail?
We are a society of symbols rather than substance. |
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CDsNuTz
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Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:20 pm
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A little off topic but the people about 4 houses north of me have a sweat lodge in their backyard,Heard them beating their drums last night. |
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snakelady
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Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:26 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by snakelady
Interesting this link is broken now. It worked earlier.
www.sdimc.org/en/2004/09/105692.shtml
Someone out there didn't want us to see them i guess.  |
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Swamp Gas
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will they put in?
1) Constitutionalists
2) Liberals
3) Arabs
4) Blacks
5) Intellectuals
6) Gnostic Christians
7) Pagans
8- Homosexuals
9) Socialists
10) Journalists
11) Latinos
12) Animal Rights Activists
13) Militiamen
14) Anti-War Activists
15) Anarchists
16) Small Government Conservatives
17) Buddhists
18- Nudists
19) Old people
20) Atheists
21) Herbalists and psychedelic eaters
While not complete, this list of groups of people have been under constant attack by the Neo-CoNaZionists for thousands of years. Of course, extremely intelligent and/or creative non-linear thinkers such as avant-garde musicians and artists, and life extension researchers are always targets. If everyone conforms to a One-World Government, presided over by an unaccountable United Nations or United States, then you will have all the porn, war, sports, bad media, unlimited Aspartame, alcohol, and pesticides you'll want and need. A new approach to Fascism...No jackboots, mustaches, and Sig Heiling.....Friendly Fascism.
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CDsNuTz
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Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:05 am
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quote:
Originally posted by snakelady
Interesting this link is broken now. It worked earlier.
www.sdimc.org/en/2004/09/105692.shtml
Whats really odd is after you posted this, i clicked on it and the page came up.Nice big white cargo trains right in your face,Yea i saw it before they killed it. |
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Swamp Gas
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Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:38 am
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quote:
Originally posted by CDsNuTz
Whats really odd is after you posted this, i clicked on it and the page came up.Nice big white cargo trains right in your face,Yea i saw it before they killed it.
Yep, saw it for 5 minutes, in it's 3 level tyrannaical glory, and then it disappeared. Will look for it on Alltheweb |
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zoobie555
Joined: 02 Jan 2003
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| UN takeover?
Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:02 am
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I did a search for "rail cars and guillotines" at ask.com out of curiosity. That eventually led me to this site.
http://www.usasurvival.org
Glancing at this site reminded me of something from my childhood. I was in 3rd grade when the Challenger shuttle exploded. I remember some months previous amid the hype of "a teacher going into space" that we were presented a petition, for lack of a better word, to sign. A petition for 3rd graders, and I think for 3rd graders only although I could be mistaken, who wanted their signatures sent into space aboard the challenger, to sign. And oddly enough the thing was, although I didn't realize it at the time, part of the New World order conditioning. It had a paragraph on it about beleiving in the UN and world peace blah blah blah. At the time my parents were Jehovah's Witnesses and vehemently opposed to the UN, as all JW's are. I refused to sign it, and so did several of my class mates, we actually sort of protested it and I remember my teacher was furious at us for not signing it. The whole incident was surreal and I remember it well. I also remember thinking to myself when the challenger exploded that my signature wouldn't have made it into space after all.
Did anyone here have to sign that thing? You'd have to be about 27-29ish to have been in 3rd grade at the time. Even back then I thought it was weird, kind of creepy even, but I just now realized the more sinister agenda behind brainwashing 9 year olds into putting faith in the UN. |
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