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Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:51 pm

I've got a quick fix for these DIE-bold machines and it looks a little something like this:

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Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:04 am

There's no way to say that this election was real!

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BROWVOTE_1105.html

Broward machines count backward
By Eliot Kleinberg

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Friday, November 05, 2004

FORT LAUDERDALE — It had to happen. Things were just going too smoothly.

Early Thursday, as Broward County elections officials wrapped up after a long day of canvassing votes, something unusual caught their eye. Tallies should go up as more votes are counted. That's simple math. But in some races, the numbers had gone . . . down.

Officials found the software used in Broward can handle only 32,000 votes per precinct. After that, the system starts counting backward.

Why a voting system would be designed to count backward was a mystery to Broward County Mayor Ilene Lieberman. She was on the phone late Wednesday with Omaha-based Elections Systems and Software.

Bad numbers showed up only in running tallies through the day, not the final one. Final tallies were reached by cross-checking machine totals, and officials are confident they are accurate.

The glitch affected only the 97,434 absentee ballots, Broward Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes said. All were placed in their own precincts and optical scanners totaled votes, which were then fed to a main computer.

That's where the counting problems surfaced. They affected only votes for constitutional amendments 4 through 8, because they were on the only page that was exactly the same on all county absentee ballots. The same software is used in Martin and Miami-Dade counties; Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties use different companies.

The problem cropped up in the 2002 election. Lieberman said ES&S told her it had sent software upgrades to the Florida Secretary of State's office, but that the office kept rejecting the software. The state said that's not true. Broward elections officials said they had thought the problem was fixed.

Secretary of State spokeswoman Jenny Nash said all counties using this system had been told that such problems would occur if a precinct is set up in a way that would allow votes to get above 32,000. She said Broward should have split the absentee ballots into four separate precincts to avoid that and that a Broward elections employee since has admitted to not doing that.

But Lieberman said later, "No election employee has come to the canvassing board and made the statements that Jenny Nash said occurred."

Late Thursday, ES&S issued a statement reiterating that it learned of the problems in 2002 and said the software upgrades would be submitted to Hood's office next year. The company was working with the counties it serves to make sure ballots don't exceed capacity and said no other counties reported similar problems.

"While the county bears the ultimate responsibility for programming the ballot and structuring the precincts, we . . . regret any confusion the discrepancy in early vote totals has caused," the statement said.

After several calls to the company during the day were not returned, an ES&S spokeswoman said late Thursday she did not know whether ES&S contacted the secretary of state two years ago or whether the software is designed to count backward.

While the problem surfaced two years ago, it was under a different Br oward elections supervisor and a different secretary of state. Snipes said she had not known about the 2002 snafu.

Later, Lieberman said, "I am not passing judgments and I'm not pointing a finger." But she said that if ES&S is found to be at fault, actions might include penalizing ES&S or even defaulting on its contract.
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:24 am

Bev Harris: 'Fraud Took Place In The 2004 Election'

November 5 2004
Counterbias.com
NEWS EXCLUSIVE

Bev Harris, an electronic-voting activist whose organization BlackBoxVoting.org is 'an independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit 501c(3) organization funded solely by citizen donations', believes fraud took place in the 2004 election.

Here is a statement she posted on an online forum:

Help America Audit

Our organization has taken the position that fraud took place in the 2004 election through electronic voting machines. We base this on hard evidence, documents obtained in public records requests, inside information, and other data indicative of manipulation of electronic voting systems. What we do not know is the specific scope of the fraud.

We are working now to compile the proof, based not on soft evidence -- red flags, exit polls -- but core documents obtained by Black Box Voting in the most massive Freedom of Information action in history.

We need: Lawyers to enforce public records laws. Some counties have already notified us that they plan to stonewall by delaying delivery of the records. We need citizen volunteers for a number of specific actions. We need computer security professionals willing to GO PUBLIC with formal opinions on the evidence we provide, whether or not it involves DMCA complications. We need funds to pay for copies of the evidence.

There are certainly indications that a sting, or at least an investigation, is in play right now.

Strong indications that both Florida and Ohio would be flipped if election manipulations are rolled back. Some indication that fraud may have occurred in at least 30 states.

It's okay to use the "F" word. Fraud. You can say it in public. Pretty soon, they'll be saying it on TV. If no one else does it first, I'll be saying the "F" word on TV shortly.

Fraud.

Use the word.

It's okay, you can say it.

Bev Harris
Executive Director
Black Box Voting
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

You can help ensure the validity of the election and investigation into possible fraud by donating to Black Box Voting: http://www.eservicescorp.com/form.aspx?fID=912 .

Note that there are already reports of possible fraud in Ohio.
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:14 am

Lots of info on this link:
http://michiganimc.org/feature/display/7644/index.php

Outrage in Ohio: Angry residents storm State House in response to massive voter suppression and corruption
by David Solnit
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05 Nov 2004
November 3 - Toledo, Ohio Hundreds of angry Ohio residents marched through the streets of Columbus—Ohio’s Capital—this evening and stormed the Ohio State House, defying orders and arrest threats from Ohio State Troopers. "O-H-I-O ! suppressed democracy has got to go,"they chanted. After troopers pushed and scuffled with people, nearly a hundred people took over the steps and entrance to the State’s giant white column capital building and refused repeated orders to disperse or face arrest. People prepared for arrests, ready to face jail—writing lawyers phone numbers on their arms, signing jail support lists and discussing non-cooperation and active resistance (linking arms, but not fighting back).

MORE PHOTOS HERE:

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/13109.php

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Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:05 am

Woe is me. Sad

The monkey on puppet strings takes the podium...

This makes me wonder about the prophicies of the Gulf Breeze 6 who claimed that Bush dies in office in 2006... I guess we'll have to wait and see that one.

There is no more democracy any longer. The Republic is all but snuffed and the Union is a dream that is far distant on the horizon...

Lord help us all...
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:10 pm

More and more fuc*ing bullsh*t!

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000715.html

Palm Beach County Logs 88,000 More Votes Than Voters
November 5, 2004 04:56 PM

According to the official election results posted on the Palm Beach County election website, 542,835 ballots were cast for a presidential candidate while only 454,427 voters turned out for the election (including absentee).
This leaves a discrepancy of 88,408 votes cast for the presidential candidates.

Palm Beach County's supervisor of elections is Theresa LePore who is known for the 2000 Presidential Election and the notorious "butterfly ballot" that caused confusion among seniors and other Floridians.

Other election oddities occurred throughout Florida with some counties registering a 400% increase in expected voter turnout among Republicans while Democrats supposedly experienced a -60% decline in expected support within certain counties. The 50+ counties experiencing the high percentage fluctuations in expected turnout used optical scan voting machines on November 2nd.

Vote discrepancies were also found in Gahanna, Ohio which gave an extra 4,000 votes to President Bush. The error was explained away by Franklin County administrators as a "glitch" in the electronic voting system.

Update: Palm Beach County has updated their numbers and added 91,802 absentee ballots and 1,041 provisional ballots. The vote totals for president increased by 1,543. To view an archived copy of the previous report, click here. While Palm Beach County appears to have accounted for the discrepancy, this underscores the flaws in the system and data compilation
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:13 pm

http://www.spectrumz.com/z/fair_use/2004/11_04.html

November 4, 2004
Ohio Whitewash
Basic report from Columbus
From a lawyer who was in there in Ohio. A database of voter irregularities is reportedly being assembled, and hopefully there will be web sites devoted to documenting what really happened.
I worked for 3 days, including Election Day, on the statewide voter protection hotline run by the Ohio Democratic Party in Columbus, Ohio. I am writing this because the media is inexplicably whitewashing what happened in Ohio, and Kerry's concession was likewise inexplicable. Hundreds of thousands of people were disenfranchised in Ohio.

People waited on line for as long as 10 hours. It appears to have only happened in Democratic-leaning precincts, principally (a) precincts where many African Americans lived, and (b) precincts near colleges. I spoke to a young man who got on line at 11:30 am and voted at 7 pm. When he left at 7 pm, the line was about 150 voters longer than when he'd arrived, which meant those people were going to wait even longer. In fact they waited for as much as 10 hours, and their voting was concluded at about 3 am. The reason this occurred was that they had 1 voting station per 1000 voters, while the adjacent precinct had 1 voting station per 184. Both precincts were within the same county, and managed by the same county board of elections. The difference between them is that the privileged polling place was in a rural, solidly Republican, area, while the one with long lines was in the college town of Gambier, OH.

Lines of 4 and 5 hours were the order of the day in many African-American neighborhoods.

Touch screen voting machines in Youngstown OH were registering "George W. Bush" when people pressed "John F. Kerry" ALL DAY LONG. This was reported immediately after the polls opened, and reported over and over again throughout the day, and yet the bogus machines were inexplicably kept in use THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

Countless other frauds occurred, such as postcards advising people of incorrect polling places, registered Democrats not receiving absentee ballots, duly registered young voters being forced to file provisional ballots even though their names and signatures appeared in the voting rolls, longtime active voting registered voters being told they weren't registered, bad faith challenges by Republican "challengers" in Democratic precincts, and on and on and on.

I was very proud of the way so many Ohioans fought so valiantly for their right to vote, and would not be turned away. Many, however, could not spend the entire day and were afraid of losing their jobs, due to the severe economic depression hitting Ohio.

I do not understand why Kerry conceded and did not fight to ensure that all Ohioans would have a chance to vote, and for their vote to be counted.

Ray

Ray Beckerman
Beldock Levine & Hoffman LLP
99 Park Ave (Ste 1600)
New York, NY 10016
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:18 pm

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=504277

Students Rally in Copley, Claim Bush ‘Stole’ Election

By JESSICA C. CHIU
Contributing Writer

CRIMSON/ PALESA C. MELVIN
Eileen M. Walker ‘03-’05 walks in a Copley Square rally yesterday to protest the results of the election.

In the wake of the presidential election, Harvard students joined more than 100 other political protesters yesterday in Copley Square for the Rally and Vigil for Democracy.
The local rally, which began at 5 p.m., was part of a larger effort by the No Stolen Elections! campaign, for which people from over 30 cities nationwide have promised to protest the election results in upcoming weeks.

Over 15,000 people have already signed a pledge expressing their concerns that the election was stolen by President Bush, said Michael A. Gould-Wartofsky ’07, a founding member of the Harvard Social Forum.

“I think Harvard students are more aware than others of how they can make democracy happen,” said Gould-Wartofsky, who is also a Crimson editor. “Some people might be staying home depressed, but we should translate that to something visible by getting active.”

Though a handful of Boston police officers were needed to control the flow of traffic, the rally was peaceful and attracted individuals of various political affiliations and beliefs, including union representatives, Socialists, Democrats, anarchists and radicals.

Many students from the Harvard Social Forum joined the other political activists in Copley Square. The protesters paced back and forth at intersection of Dartmouth and Boylston Streets, holding signs, chanting slogans and distributing pamphlets while several cars honked in support of their cause.

Many protesters said they were there to express discontent with election results and Bush’s foreign policy.

“Being out here is the start to rebuilding the movements against Bush and the war in Iraq,” said Daniel DiMaggio ’04, a former member of the Harvard Socialist Alternative.

Gould-Wartofsky said that many of the protesters feel that the Kerry campaign should have waited longer for the votes to be counted.

Early yesterday morning, Sen. John Edwards, D.-N.C., vowed to “fight for every vote.” But by yesterday afternoon Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., conceded the presidential election.

The political rally, however, was more than just an anti-Bush demonstration. The majority of protesters said they came out to voice specific concerns on issues, including immigration, social security, the draft and police brutality.

“I would have come out if Kerry won, too. I’m here to meet other people who are also interested in radical ideas,” said Hank R. Gonzalez, ’06, treasurer of the Socialist Alternative.

Edward B. Childs, a cook in Adams House, said that even though he is against “four more years of Bush,” the reason he attended was to focus on the issues.

“It’s important to go out the first day after elections to protest against cuts in Social Security, Medicare, cuts to veterans and workers’ rights,” said Childs, who is also the chief steward of Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees Local 26.

As he watched the crowd of protesters, Gould-Wartofsky reflected on the election results.

“More people are demoralized than I thought, but movements are what really change American politics,” he said. “The power is still in the people. We didn’t just give it up to the President yesterday.”
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:02 pm

More protests of Bush re-election! Seems like it’s happening all over the country! There’s probably many more but I gave up searching for now. I believe that as more of the stories of election fraud leak out it will only continue to get worse.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2512345,00.html
(Downtown Denver)

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/politics/3889386/detail.html
(Downtown San Diego)

http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=2519748
(Red Hook, N.Y.)

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/a/2004/11/04/state1559EST0069.DTL
(San Francisco)

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Election%20Protest
(Bellingham, Washington)

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/nov2004/colo-n06.shtml
(Boulder, Colorado High School)

http://wjz.com/localstories/local_story_308153539.html
(Downtown Baltimore)

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=04/11/06/3084513
(Kirksville, MO)

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=04/11/03/4198449
(Portland, Oregon)

http://www.nbc5.com/news/3890925/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65194
(Chicago)

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news/2004/11/02/TopStories/Protesting.Democrats.Forced.Off.Campus.Crowd.Erupts.In.Conflict-790478.shtml
(Dallas University)

http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?id=30781
(UCLA)

http://www.dailyorange.com/news/2004/11/05/News/Election.Outcome.Draws.Student.Protests-794880.shtml
(SU)

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/state/10092794.htm
(ST. Paul)

http://www.pittnews.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/11/05/418b2f904709d
(Oakland)

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=2521115
(Vermont)

http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20041104/topstories/27094.shtml
(Olympia, Washington)

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Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:01 pm

The Honorable David M. Walker

Comptroller General of the United States

U.S. General Accountability Office

441 G Street, NW

Washington, DC 20548

Dear Mr. Walker:

We write with an urgent request that the Government Accountability Office immediately undertake an investigation of the efficacy of voting machines and new technologies used in the 2004 election, how election officials responded to difficulties they encountered and what we can do in the future to improve our election systems and administration.

In particular, we are extremely troubled by the following reports, which we would also request that you review and evaluate for us:

In Columbus, Ohio, an electronic voting system gave President Bush nearly 4,000 extra votes. "Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes," Associated Press, November 5.

An electronic tally of a South Florida gambling ballot initiative failed to record thousands of votes. "South Florida OKs Slot Machines Proposal," Id.

In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots could hold more data that it did. "Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes," Id.

In San Francisco, a glitch occurred with voting machines software that resulted in some votes being left uncounted. Id.

In Florida, there was a substantial drop off in Democratic votes in proportion to voter registration in counties utilizing optical scan machines that was apparently not present in counties using other mechanisms. http://ustogether.org/election04/florida_vote_patt.htm

The House Judiciary Committee Democratic staff has received numerous reports from Youngstown, Ohio that voters who attempted to cast a vote for John Kerry on electronic voting machines saw that their votes were instead recorded as votes for George W. Bush. In South Florida, Congressman Wexler's staff received numerous reports from voters in Palm Beach, Broward and Dade Counties that they attempted to select John Kerry but George Bush appeared on the screen. CNN has reported that a dozen voters in six states, particularly Democrats in Florida, reported similar problems. This was among over one thousand such problems reported. "Touchscreen Voting Problems Reported," Associated Press, November 5.

Excessively long lines were a frequent problem throughout the nation in Democratic precincts, particularly in Florida and Ohio. In one Ohio voting precinct serving students from Kenyon College, some voters were required to wait more than eight hours to vote. "All Eyes on Ohio," Dan Lothian, CNN, November 3, http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/blog/1...blog/index.htm..

We are literally receiving additional reports every minute and will transmit additional information as it comes available. The essence of democracy is the confidence of the electorate in the accuracy of voting methods and the fairness of voting procedures. In 2000, that confidence suffered terribly, and we fear that such a blow to our democracy may have occurred in 2004.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this inquiry.

Sincerely,

John Conyers, Jr. Jerrold Nadler Robert Wexler

Ranking Member Ranking Member Member of Congress

House Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution

cc: Hon. F. James Sensenbrenner

Chairman
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:33 am

THANK GOD!

The Democrats at least offer a response to the HUGE FRAUD that now seems to have occurred.

I too am starting to feel KERRY was TOLD to just "let it be" at the least, and maybe it seems even agreed up front to the outcome. Something never seemed "right" to me about his "run" for office, and I didn't vote for him OR Bush anyway.

People are going to have to realize that working on the LOCAL grass roots level is where things are going to have to happen and to expect any good thing to come down from the Elitist Cult is a waste of time and energy.

When the Bush Crime family (and possibly Kerry crime family!) come after our children to grind them up into fodder for the Empire's machinery they are going to have a FIGHT! The "Midwest farmers" won't easily surrender their sons (much less daughters) to Bush's insane OVERREACH of The Empire!

Most all of us REASONABLY intelligent people know full well we were lied to about this PHONEY WAR and will never give in to Bush's ANTICHRIST like
Power Grab. WE realize FULL WELL he intends to use a "War OF Terrorism" to attempt to reshape the world in HIS image. FOOL ME ONCE......

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James Trafficant Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:20 pm

Now I know the real reason Rep. James Trafficant was railroaded by his" friends" in Congress. Having him in a controlled enviroment,Jail. Apparently Jim wouldn't play ball with these poor excuses for human beings. IT IS TIME FOR THE IRS TO GO 05/25/01
Mr. TRAFICANT. Madam Speaker, an investigation revealed that 16,000 IRS employees illegally used their computers. The report states IRS agents spent 50 percent of their time at work on personal business. If that is not enough to service your revenue, IRS agents illegally used their computers for shopping, stock trading, gambling and pornography. Unbelievable.

Think about it. While 60 percent of taxpayer calls to the IRS go unanswered, the IRS agents were watching Marilyn Chambers do the Rotary International. Beam me up here. It is time to pass a flat 15 percent sales tax and abolish this gambling, porno-watching IRS completely.

I yield back the internal rectal service of the United States of America.

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Re: James Trafficant Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:06 pm

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Originally posted by increase 1776
It is time to pass a flat 15 percent sales tax and abolish this gambling, porno-watching IRS completely.

Bush is proposing a 23.5% across the board sales tax with the exception of.......Stock and Bond trading. So we poor slobs will pay the same tax on $3 per gallon gas and groceries that the rich do.

Let's say we sell a house for $200,000. We then would pay $47,000 in sales tax. Let's say the family makes $70,000 a year. The tax is 57% of medium family's income.

Now a fat cat making $5,000,000 a year would have to sell a house for around $15,000,000 to pay the same proportion tax. Most Oileys have all their houses by now, and are currently spending their "extra" money on stocks, bonds, houses, and real estate. Now they are write offs and not taxes.

What this means is the only way to save money on Bush's new tax plan is not to spend. Will there be exemptions to defense and oil companies? Why not? The fat cats are investing in those same industries. It certainly isn't Telecommunications, Electronics, and Computers. Oh I forgot, as a guy who I work with in Telecomunications says, "Those are Hippie industries". He is correct in a way. Cyberpunks and Hippies brought the PC to fruitation. If not for a handful of visionaries in California, Massachusetts, and New Jersey (Bell Labs, MIT, Stanford, Apple, Intel) the computer would still be in the hands of just universities, like the Rosetta Stone being hidden by the priesthood. Same went for psychedelic drugs. The CIA was going to dump LSD in the water supply in 1961, and an author from England, Michael Hollingshead, got thousands of hits of LSD, and came to the USA and turned on many people in the every field as possible. I personally know or knew two of the original tripsters, and they and others have verified the story. It's possible, since the CIA was up to MK-ULTRA at the time. So in retrospect, it would make sense that the government will not support the tech industry as much.

The only close to fair way is to have a flat income tax, not a sales tax, with no write offs. So a 15% rate could be fair for everyone. Of course, it has the same pitfall as the sales tax. If rich people stop buying real expensive goods, then we pay the same for toilet paper as the rich do. Maybe voulutary tax would be the answer. You get what you pay for. If you pay nothing, you would have to use roads that are crappy. What about police? Perhaps then a minimum flat, that would cover basic needs such as police, sewers, roads, defense, and healthcare. Everything else would be voluntary. If you want for the armed forces than your minimum, you pay it.

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Re: James Trafficant Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:20 am

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Originally posted by increase 1776
Now I know the real reason Rep. James Trafficant was railroaded by his" friends" in Congress. Having him in a controlled enviroment,Jail. Apparently Jim wouldn't play ball with these poor excuses for human beings. IT IS TIME FOR THE IRS TO GO 05/25/01
Mr. TRAFICANT. Madam Speaker, an investigation revealed that 16,000 IRS employees illegally used their computers. The report states IRS agents spent 50 percent of their time at work on personal business. If that is not enough to service your revenue, IRS agents illegally used their computers for shopping, stock trading, gambling and pornography. Unbelievable.

Think about it. While 60 percent of taxpayer calls to the IRS go unanswered, the IRS agents were watching Marilyn Chambers do the Rotary International. Beam me up here. It is time to pass a flat 15 percent sales tax and abolish this gambling, porno-watching IRS completely.

I yield back the internal rectal service of the United States of America.

That's just TOO good, Trafficant is quite a colorful figure. I remember back when he was standing up for the families of the murdered vitims of the Waco Massacre. I think that may have been when the FBI decided to go after him (set him up?).

God, why can't we have more outspoken people like that. While I have no idea if he was REALLY guilty of any REAL crimes, he sure was a refreshing voice lighting up the halls of The Dead.

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Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:48 am

They needed to get Rep.Trafficant in jail, and intimidated as possible,but he doesn't intimidate easily.That allows the Bush Mafia full run of James state to get the computerized vote stealing machines in place.Rep Trafficant can't do squawt from behind bars.He was jailed so the Nazi's could take over Ohio.

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