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Cornelia
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My chemtrailstory
 Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:00 pm
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Everybody has one, isn't it?
Well. I heard about chemtrails about one year ago. i'm involved in Peak Oil theory, so I'm open to conspiracy theories... you just need to look at the news to see a conspiracy going on! 
Anyway, I didn't pay much attention. It sounded weird, after all. But last summer I was at the beach with some friends and children, a beach very close to the city of Rome (Italy) and close to the international airport also. The beach was crowded with airlines workers and their families.
At 11AM, they began to spray. I could witness the spraying, confortably sit in my beach chair, going on for five hours.
They crisscrossed the sky so many times you couldn't count. Everybody kept paying attention (ehm... with my help, maybe!), and everybody couldn't explain what the hell was happening with those "contrails". It was not possible they were contrails, plain and simple: we saw other planes passing and leaving normal contrails, and they were very different; we saw those spraying planes switching the "contrails" on and off while passing over our head.
And after five hours, the sky was no more blue: it was a grey fog. And the children began to cough.
From then on, I began to investigate these contrails, while keeping an eye at the sky.
I've noticed they spray more heavily when some clouds are coming... and the clouds go away. Sometimes we get a light rain for just a few minutes, then nothing at all.
Lately they've begun to spray at night or very early in the morning. It's hard to notice any spraying during daytime, but when I leave home to go to work every morning at 7,30, there are chemtrails dissolving in the sky. No spraying here on weekends... maybe because italians don't like to work on Sundays! LOL
Last: I checked with the black lamp, but no fibrils found anywhere. But I've heard they've found some in northern Italy. I think there are different kinds of spraying: the "lite" and the "full" version, the basic one being the barium/aluminium and the advanced packed with some sort of nazis experiments. But of course, I can't swear on it.
These are the latest from Zoorope,
Cornelia
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Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:34 am
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Hi Cornelia,
So what would you say the general reaction has been in Europe to these 'sprayings' and how has it affected your sunny days? And do you sense personally that it is getting warmer in your part of the world, too?
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Cornelia
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Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:03 pm
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Orwell,
most people here don't pay any attention. When you try to explain, 90% of them think you're a conspiracy nut. 10% begin to pay attention... and become as paranoid as I am!
Anyway, I'm not sure they're trying to screen the sun. It should be done on a so large scale very different from what we are seeing now. I mean, they should spray over the oceans, over unhabited places, or it would have no effects at all.
Instead, it look like they're spraying over populated areas only. Is it possible to screen some areas only? I don't know: I'm not skilled in Phisics. Since I'm involved in the Peak Oil theory, I'm beginning to think all this chemtrailing is connected with our energy consumes.
What if they spray to heat the air in winter or to screen the sun in summer, so we lower our use of heating/air conditioners? I know it sounds a strange theory, but it could be possible.
Let me know what you think, and if it can be useful to make a thread of this.
Thanks
Cornelia
PS Hope my english is understandable...
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| The UFOs seen accompanying chemtrails seem to be alien craft
Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:34 pm
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Hi everyone. One Friday morning before work i stepped out into the backgarden and noticed that the Nazi Illuminati and their Reptilian servant henchmen had been spraying the sky very, very heavily with the usual criss-cross patterns and displaying the same stretched ribbing effect. As the sun started to rise, i noticed two white lights intermittently bleeping. Both of them moved independantly of each other. They consistently changed direction and seemed to be monitoring and examining the chemtrails. The air had a sceptic, coppery taste to it. As usual, the dopey, sleepy Sheeple just do not seem to care. If the British Government asked them to bend over they would. The British people are so whorish and childish. They are one of the most switched off nations i have ever come across. Its truelly pathetic to even talk about chemtrails, the Illuminati, the Draconian Reptilians, genetic engineering, airborne infections and disease. Thank God a forum with freethinking people actually exists. I feel these UFO craft or probes are not friendly. I know some people have photgraphed these UFOs and they definitely look suspect. |
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:16 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Cornelia
Orwell,
most people here don't pay any attention. When you try to explain, 90% of them think you're a conspiracy nut. 10% begin to pay attention... and become as paranoid as I am!
Anyway, I'm not sure they're trying to screen the sun. It should be done on a so large scale very different from what we are seeing now. I mean, they should spray over the oceans, over unhabited places, or it would have no effects at all.
Instead, it look like they're spraying over populated areas only. Is it possible to screen some areas only? I don't know: I'm not skilled in Phisics. Since I'm involved in the Peak Oil theory, I'm beginning to think all this chemtrailing is connected with our energy consumes.
What if they spray to heat the air in winter or to screen the sun in summer, so we lower our use of heating/air conditioners? I know it sounds a strange theory, but it could be possible.
Let me know what you think, and if it can be useful to make a thread of this.
Thanks
Cornelia
PS Hope my english is understandable...
Hello again,
well though many people are probably interested, as with anything it takes awhile to make the necessary pardigm shift especially when there are all manor of predatory forces pulling one in the opposite direction intentionally.
Personally I care little whether anyone would think I was a 'conspiracy nut' or not. Most sheeple have been brainwashed into believing the 'T.V. world' is the real one now and both the scientific world as well as the realm of personal experience seems to have been replaced by this Great Charade.
Those pushing this Orwellian Agenda here in The U.S.
work tirelessly (probably like most other governments) but with an ESPECIALLY renewed intensity to frighten and corral the herd, all the while sinking this country into greater and greater debt while their cronies reap billions and billions from no-bid contracts. They create endless fictions blamed on created 'enemies' for pretense to make war on anyone and anything that does not submit to the will of The Empire and stands in the way of expansion and resources.
Even realizing this though, I am not so sure these aerosol releases at least here fit any other real pattern other than some type of weather control. Barium for HAARP type projects may also be involved as well as who knows what type of biological type testing, but I haven't oberved anything to draw those type of conclusions...yet. I do know though as i mentioned when the sun starts to come out and warm things up...THEY come.... always...... and they disperse there trails, back and forth round and round until they fill the sky... then they leave.... and it has gotten cooler as a result.
The best thing that has been mentioned over and over if people are REALLY interested is to start taking samples from precipitaion and performing different analysis on them. If I were REALLY concerned at this time that this stuff was dangerous to my health them I guess i would expend the time and energy to do this. At this moment i am not convinced of this that this 'spraying' is toxic but again it could be and if i get so motivated I may perform a sampling or two.
Also yes, i think as you say this 'chemtrailing' is totally connected with energy usage, policy, and the profits that follow(At least several of the programs) A likely hypothesis is that it is an attempt to make it at least APPEAR that 'global warming/climate instability' is not accelerating or changing by mitagating temperature records that would read much higher if not for the shading affect. I suspect as i said that at LEAST the areas always under these huge multi state sized aerosol induced cloud grids stay cooler much longer at least during day time hours and possibly stay a bit warmer at night if these aerosols are able to insulate much. All of the world doesn't have to be shaded at once by any means for this type of shielding to be used.
I am fully aware though that this may not be the ONLY purpose or even a purpose at all and it may be something much more sinister than climate manipulation (as if that might not be bad enough)
From the Heartland, USA
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Cornelia
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:18 pm
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dear orwell,
thank you for your reply.While I'm a newbie here, I've noticed this place is full of trolls... everytime someone points out something interesting, someone else came to speak about aliens etc. Funny.
Anyway, it seems I'm the only one right now trying to connect chemtrails-haarp and... the tsunami. Just yesterday I've read an article (good source, not conspiracy site) about scientists thinking that these earthquakes being connected with cosmic rays actually hitting Poles. Well... guess how do they know there are cosmic rays? because they tested lower atmosphere and higher troposphere and found a lot of strange POWDER! so they concluded that there is an unusual amount of cosmic rays hitting earth. sorry but I can't explain better in english.
anyway, a lot of people connect haarp with chemtrails. they say chemtrailing is useful to create electromagnetic field and so on. and if you read about Teller studies, he found a way to create earthquakes with electromagnetic fields. do a google search, because again I can't explain in english!
you said you're not worried for health consequences. I don't believe all that theories about "they are spraying diseases to kill us all", but anything they spray is surely harmful. I mean, even violet perfume can be harmful if you breath it days and nights!!! And after all, I really hate all this secrecy... why should they keep this so secret if it's for our own good?
I think that chemtrails are connected with climate changes and haarp. Too bad these are so secretive projects you can't find a single trustable source to research! But if enough people willl point to it, maybe one day they'll come at full light. I always remember Echelon: people speaking of Echelon were laughed at and called conspiracy nuts, but now everybody knows about Echelon. One day it will be the same with chemtrails... hope so!
Happy new chemyear....
Cornelia
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:00 pm
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I wouldn't worry about people talking about aliens Cornelia, it is just another opinion of the reasons behind the current world condition. I myself take in all accounts, until the ones that seem not as feasible fall by the wayside.
In a sense, we are all aliens. Everything is born of Star Matter, so we did initally come from somewhere.
I also see the "Reptile" acpect form evolutionary terms. When people like David Icke talk of Amphibians, he could be talking about Brain Circuitry, the Reptilian part being the first stage after Zygote. It is an Approach-Avoid type of Consciousness. Shark consciousness.
Here is an interesting look into what Leary and Wilson came up with, called the Periodic Table of Evolution:
http://deoxy.org/eoctave.htm
Speaking of Echelon, the company I used to work for developed the sophisticated voice recognition that is used. The engineers were told it was a government project, but nothing else. There was very top secret stuff going on, and if it wasn't for a disgruntled former employee, I would have not know about it. One server could scan 64,000 simulataneous conversations, and with hundreds, if not thousands of servers in Echelon, well you get the idea.
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:41 pm
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Well folks, as I type this,
here in Missouri it is beautifully warm this Dec. 31st EXCELLENT for this time in Missouri. However again the planes are out circling criss crossing and generally they have filled in all of the mornings blue sky with "chemidus translucidus" er something like that (It's on one of the new geoengineering stamps).
Perhaps as was said there may well be health repercussions from these discharges, I guess the best one can do for now is try and stay as healthy as possible and realize the human body (and spirit) are constantly being bombarded by predatory as well as other influences.
As for the destruction around Indonesia I am well aware of MANY people that are suspiciously eyeing the possibility of ELF type weapons being used and who might benefit from their use. I have simply heard RUMORS that HAARP was activated some time recently before that but heard nothing concrete. While I am well aware of HAARP seemingly being implicated in the East Coast blackout as merely a test on the public, first as a real in-life test to see if the system would work and secondlly to see how the public would react, I have to wonder first if it is even capable of triggering such an event as this recent disaster. I do not know enough about the particular technology to know it's true capablilites. I am in a limited way familiar with Tesla type research being credited with having the 'potential' to do such damage but no specifics.
Perhaps a test to see what it's capabilites were, perhaps just another natural unrelated disaster. It is clear though to see the U.S. Empire that was supporting the gov/oil interests there will conceivably benefit as they move in in the wake of the 'disappeared' to consolidate their power from the natives. It was definately on the PNAC's list of assest to aquire and now it seems that 'order out of chaos' may have allowed that to happen much easier. I think though I would like too first see some 'scientific' evidence
that shows HAARP facilities projected any type of transmission even remotely capable of triggering such an occurrence. If this happened I would have to think the Russians or Chinese or others would have picked this up. I'm definately open to the possibility though as it easily fits the path of the NWO interests and after the 9-11 CHARADE that allows The Empire unfettered??? access (apparently) to new resources and bases all over the world and the poor Sheeple that graze unobservedly never knowing REALLY who is behind it all ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE!
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Cornelia
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:53 am
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orwell,
about the man-made earthquake, I was just jumping to the conclusion I'm nuts when I've heard of the Aceh county. The Aceh county is the most heavily hitted by the tsunami: more than 80.000 victims! It's in the North of Indonesia, and sits over PLENTY of oil. But also, in Aceh county they are muslims, and they were fighting a bitter civil war against the Indonesian govt AND US troops because of oil.
When I've heard this (on mainstream evening news!) I almost fell from my chair.
So I thought: what if they tried to hit Aceh county with an earthquake and, by mistake, the earthquake came out far far heavier? After all, managing this business of creating earthquakes is not a simple task, and something can go wrong. They're not Gods!
Let me know (you and everybody else of course) what you think. And please, let me know of any other forum where people is debating this.
You mentioned "spiritual" somewhere. A friend of mine keeps saying that we can fight these crazy elites only spiritually. She follows anthroposophy, but I'm a materialist so I'm dubious. But all this evil in the world really depresses me, and I begin to think it's not only driven by man...
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| Pine Gap Austrailia?
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Pine Gap Austrailia? http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pinegap.htm "It is said that under Pine Gap is the deepest drilling hole in Australia - about 5 miles (more than 8,000 meters). Such a hole is likely used as an underground antenna able to recharge the batteries of submarines in the Pacific and Indian Ocean through ELF broadcasts. Such a gigantic antenna could be used to generate(more than 8,000 meters). Such a hole is likely used for:
"Some say that Pine Gap has an enormous nuclear generator to supply energy to a new type of transceiver. It seems too that there is a high-powered, high-voltage plasma accelerator which may be put to use to transmit electric current, or even to produce a 'death-ray', or quite simply to feed a plasma gun. All this is not as incredible as it sounds: it is now known that the US base of West Cape, near Exmouth Gulf in Western Australia (Harold E. Holt USN Communication Station), has an older type of the transceiver used at Pine Gap which is used to send electric current to submerged US submarines who trail a wire antenna. It is known that electric currents transmitted in this way are referred to as plasmo-dynamic cells.
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