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Jim Phelps
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Arianna Huffington's support of the chemtrail cover up
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Greetings CTC,
The last six months I have been looking into what is one of the biggest of the chemtrails cover up training camps. It is a Forum run by Arianna Huffington that essentially has became an out of control attack list dominated by the chemtrail deniers.
So, in the interest of exposing some of these games going on there and networking with those that want the chemtrails problems exposed, I will offer opinion and analysis of what I saw happening there.
In comparision, persons on the CTC list have to be congratulated for their special place they have here to discuss these important issues and bring them into public view in the interests of making a better America. CTC folks read books and watch videos, and think about and discuss how to make a better nation. They readily recognize that refusing to consider conspiracies is taking the easy and irresponsible path in life.
We are going to take a look at a list that takes the irresponsible path supported by Arianna Huffington's dirty housekeeping on her Forum.
More to follow in installments.
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halva
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:56 pm
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Jim Phelps you were only suspended for a week from Arianna Huffington's forum.
There was no need to make a posting like this. The debunker problem seems to be under control at Arianna's. |
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:44 pm
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Jim and halva..You both are extremely valuable posters here. Personally, I prefer CTC to Arrianna's becuase we have more control over debunkers Neo-Con yes-people here. This is not to say the she doe not have a good site, but sometimes a small party of people is better than a huge party with many x-factors.
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Jim Phelps
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:44 pm
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Arianna Huffington's Discussion board is one of the worst on the entire internet, in my observation and opinion. The moderators were out to lunch almost the entire time I was there doing my research probe, and they sure don't deserve to be paid for not doing their jobs.
These moderators there, Mike, Lib and others, are prime examples of people that abuse their power. They have multiple sets of standards and no sign of uniformity for rules. They retaliate when people post in their own complaints list just how bad things are there and how out to lunch these moderators were for what appears like an entire year.
Arianna is usually thought of in the same context as a Bill Maher and his "Politically Incorrect" late nite TV program that called a spade and spade in the line up of political crooks running the US. Arianna's poor housekeeping on her Forum pulls her out of this class.
It is simply ashamed that Arianna Huffington's Discussion Forum is literally the training academy of the Hate Mongers of the racketeering GOP Neo-Con class. There is only one thing worse than a terrorist these days and that is these persons like most of the ones present on Arianna's Forum that promote the untruths that have become the platform for the root cause of terrorism against the US.
Arianna's is not just bad, its criminal.
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Jim Phelps
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:50 pm
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Carbon Copy of Complaint about Arianna's Forums moderators consistent failings to do their job, for which they retaliated:
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Re: New Sheriff In Town!
Dear Arianna's Administrators,
I want to lodge an offcial complaint concerning my being personally attacked on an Arianna Forum called "It is not nice to fool with Mother Nature."
The curent line of personal attacks toward me are calling personally abusive terms like delusional, paranoid, fear consumed, and not based in reality. These personal attacks are based upon my simply telling my history of involvement in the chemtrails and climate change issues at a prominent national lab. These type words are attacks on me personally and not on the line of information and the proofs that I deliver in the threads discussions.
I have been laying out the simple science of how there is a chemtrails science and global warming remediation methods. I have been using volcano related sciences as the starting point, since this process formed the atmosphere baseline.
This information being presented appears to be very threatning toward the persons that insist upon denial that these methods and sciences really do exist. There are some interesting connections to old world histories that support the claims, and connections to religion that these persons seek to suppress from being discussed using words of hate and personal attacks. These extreme personal attack diatribes are religion attacks in origin, because it exposes some problems in religion beliefs. Since the thesis is being logically supported and is dismissing the false claims of these persons, their mode to dismiss the information is to personally attack the presenter.
These personal attacks on this forum's list started with my very first listing on the forum and are centered around some individuals that tended to use all kinds of ugly methods to run persons off, rather than hear their views and see the information thesis that supports the contentions. It is one of the most extreme lists for constant personal insults that I have seen in my 8 years on the Internet.
The list has consistently supported an environment that has been extreme and has consistently allowed these unsavory persons to personally attack persons for expressing their views and the proofs for their views.
Some of the first modes of attempts to run me off started with one person using my real name on the forum, which was never introduced by myself. There have been a pattern of similar methods used to run persons off, rather than allow logical presentation of data and inducement of logical and polite interactive discussion.
Since these type personal attacks are strictly against the Arianna Forum's rules, I officially request these persons be removed from the list for the long standing pattern of personal attacks that are now ever more extreme.
I have voiced similar complaints about this list in the past and not seen any actions taken. It appears the moderators have ignored making these persons follow the rules and there appear to be differing stardards of rules based upon sex. The previous complaint was over one person telling that he would stick a knife in chemtrail activist veins and drain out their blood. Later words like decapitate chemtrails activists were stated. Such have the appearance of intimidation, if not a threat.
I would appreciate it if the Arianna's Forum staff would seek to clean out these people that personally attack persons using false claims that they are delusional, paranoid, lost from reality, etc., in support of their common claims that all persons that support chemtrails exist are delusional, paranoid, and lost from reality. This is a list based on an extrme group of indivividuals attempting shout down tactics to force their agendas onto other persons.
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Swamp Gas
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:27 pm
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The Maverick's Saloonitics at work 
There are a few still lurking here, we know who they are, and as soon as they expose themselves (mot literally)...ZAPPPP!! It's a silly game Yaak, Whitemajikman, Molliani, KevinAlfred, and a few others play, but they don't last long.
CTC is one of the largest chemtrail sites, and be assured Jim, that we will not allow any personal attacks here.
An admin who used to be here, that was giving IP addresses and real names and addresses of CTC members to Maverick's, is gone, and I won't mention who it is, unless David or Dan Rockwell says it first. That person does not show up anymore.
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Jim Phelps
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:58 pm
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Hi SG,
Yes, I agree that the well managed CTC Forum is a beath of fresh air in an otherwise very adverse to truth world.
By all means keep up the good work on keeping CTC the pleasant forum it has always been and keep catching the detractors. They are very easy to spot, and they all seem to read CTC to see what plan of attack to develop next.
I was reading the referrals on my web page about six months ago when I noted a number of hits from the Arianna Forum, so I clicked to see what it was.
I was totally amazed at what was going on there. It was so bad and so totally out of control that it looked like a good place to do some stimulus / response testing by dumping bits of the real chemtrails data into the debunkers world of games and see what transpired. The free for all on Arianna's Forum of missing moderators made an interesting experiment.
Lots of interesting connections for those that conspire to hide truth from the public's view. The experiment there is complete.
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Jim Phelps
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:38 pm
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The interesting thing is this thread on the Arianna Forum was began by a person named Halva, who resides in Greece these days and appeared to want to catch the eye of a Greek person named Arianna Huffington to promote chemtrails, climate change type issues in the American press.
He was from day one of the thread surrounded by the detractors, who all appear to stalk all the Internet chemtrails discussions.
The entire premise for the existance of that thread was to get Huffington's attention and discuss climate change games, weather control, and chemtrails.
What makes things more interesting is the moderators on Arianna's Forum attemping to cover up their not doing their jobs, and my going to write a letter to the boss that would expose them. Some of the commentary that applies to their "Abuses of Power" by the usually missing moderators that Arianna employs, who here appear totally intent of keeping Arianna from knowing what is going on.
This does not speak well of Arianna's keeping a clean house or being kept up to date on important information.
http://ariannaonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=397&page=697&pp=10
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Mike Supermoderator Listing No. #6962
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Originally Posted by Insurrectionchemistry
"I believe it better serves this threads history to note that several listings mysteriously disappeared from this thread without explanation."
Mike:
Insurrection, that one's going to vanish just as mysteriously. If you think I'm kidding about restricting your conversations to the topic at hand, think again.
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Mike, SuperModerator Listing No #6963
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Originally Posted by Insurrectionchemistry
"I can always put a hard copy letter in the mail to the attention of the CEO of Arianna's Company, if the request does not materialize."
Mike:
Why don't you do that?
The next "off topic" post here -- from you -- will be your last for a while.
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Insurrection Chemistry Listing No. #6964
Getting into the mother nature's effects on the weather and humankind's modifications thereof.
The thesis of how volcanoes alter weather came to me in my many visits to volcanoes and sitting on top of them and watching how their emissions and effects alter the climate. One can notice that around volcanoes their effects often make one side a desert and the other a rain forest.
I suppose this is the same sort of observations that Moses would have made when he was banished to Midian. Here he appears to have climbed the highest peak in the area that overlooked a huge volcanic zone.
I just happened to make the same kind of observations as ole Moses. Then persons like the Ron Wyatt fella from Tennessee called my attention to the land bridge area of the Gulf of Aqaba crossing.
Then all things fell into place rapidly. Those simple sorts of ideas and their associations were quickly accepted as being totally valid associations at the highest levels of Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the highest levels of US national security operations. My legend in closed circles became a reality then and there.
This also set off the thinking on how to change the HF problems that I had uncovered from the emissions of HF from the Oak RIdge Gas Diffusion Plant. The parallels with how volcanoes HF emissions came into those studies.
And the ideas of precipitate methods came logically into view. One way was the metals emissions and the localized climate change around lesser volcanic effects like Mt. Sinai and the larger effect were to use the massive water injection effects from an even like Krackatoa.
So, it was these very simplest of associations that lead to the invention and use of chemtrail methods to set up climate change using the dialy and wide spead emissions from jet planes.
Places like Oak Ridge National Laborary had no problems with using the examples of these volcano bible connected histories as prime case examples that the methods would work and that mother nature was a living example and past history that the same chemical mechanims did some rather wonderous things.
Now, it would appear that the entire US Govt had not problem with using these bible perspectives in the proof of the climate change patterns observed from volcanoe effects and they had not problems in using that knowledge to support the threories of climate change inducement using jet emissions for like purpose.
So, these mother nature and science meeting provided an epiphany of sorts to the entire secretive national security world from ORNL to the Pentagon.
And, all that fits in the criteria for the discussion on this threads thesis.
In fact, it stands as the proof of the science for chemtrails, the science of climate change, and just how easily that jet plane emissions can be tailored to support man's mimicing of mother nature for solutions of difficult problems.
I propose that it is material of such importance that persons like Mike should be readily willing to share it with Arianna, so that she too can become more effective towards supporting the very same thesis. That in fact, Arianna and I share a common theme. That in fact, persons like Halva's suggestion / request should be considered entirely reasonable.
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Mike, Super Moderator Listing No #6965
You almost -- but not quite -- made it to a post that restricted itself to the topic at hand. You made the deliberate choice to attempt a small "baiting" at the end. We'll see you in about a week.
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End----as one can see----the listing was hardly off the Forums topic or its original intent--------and the Super Moderator was aiming at shutting up the messenger for his not having run things in a proper matter and getting very many complaints. Others are also pointing at his lack of proper efforts to run the Forum properly on other areas.
Which leads one to think that the Arianna Forum's Moderators were long time willing supporters for the detractors, until they became part of the equation by not having done their jobs.
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halva
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:49 pm
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It's true that the moderators were extremely negligent for a long time at Arianna's and ironical that it is the chemtrail debunkers that did most to change this through their zeal to rid the board of Jim Phelps. Through their continual complaints they forced the moderators to get their act together. Being ignorant of the basics of the 'chemtrails' dispute it was difficult for the moderators to work out what criteria they should use for excluding undesirable postings. The result seemed to be quite arbitrary, hitting debunkers and non-debunkers alike. Some debunkers were so annoyed at this that they left, having achieved the opposite of what they intended.
Jim Phelps, as indicated, was indeed excluded, but only temporarily. |
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halva
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:13 am
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Would it be more appropriate to start another thread for questions of this kind? |
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Jim Phelps
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Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:43 am
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Hello,
Many chemtrail activists seem to be targets for various of the detractors of chemtrails, so it is important to start sharing notes on what is going on and from who. These are some of my observations and opinions from what is happening at the Arianna's Forum training camp for chemtrail activism haters.
When I visited Arianna's an interesting core group was present, with some drifting in and out.
The core group of chemtrail activist haters are these:
Jay Reynolds (location Arkansas), Simon Stuart (location Santiago, Chile), White Magic Man, aka Shawn (location Canada), and Ed Snell (location western US). These four persons appear to essentially stalk every chemtrail forum and list on the internet, and most of them have been banned from the serious discussions of chemtrails.
What are their methods? The methods are essentially verbal abuse with the intention of disruption of serious discussion lists. They do essentially the same information mining techniques the Bush Mafia used to set up the Iraq war based on false intelligence data. Most of the ones in the chemtrails attack squad appear to operate with pure destructive intentions toward chemtrails data, methods, or goals being made public.
What are their profiles?
Jay Reynolds: Trained in sciences and worked for the 3rd largest oil refinery in the Northern Hemisphere. He worked for New York based Hess Oil company on turbines, which is run by the Jewish oil company person that supplied the oil pipeline to invade Germany in WWII. He appears to be a farmer in Arkansas these days with too much time on his hands. He claims to be a major player in GOP politics and a GOP party leader.
Simon Stuart: Also known as Stuart Allsops on one list. He claims to be a computer video software pedder in Santiago Chile. Seems to believe himself an expert in the elements of religion.
Shawn ?: also known as WhiteMajicMan. Lives in Canada, and apparently former from the US. He is a Mason and belongs to a blue lodge. He is a web page designer for items like "Jews Against Zionism." Is Jewish by religion.
Ed Snell: also known as Yaak. He is a CAD printed circuit board designer and seems to have lots of time to play on the internet. Is a loyal supporter for the other three, and seeming more a mascot.
So, the pattern here is suggestive of those that are highly GOP oriented. That is the church goers, who are 90 percent GOP types. These GOP types cultivate those that are the sheep that set up a Government that is run by wolves.
The Mason's organization is highly into the two faced system of truth behind religion and there are some of the major players in the massive cover ups that are Masons. Masons tend to support the big banking systems, the same the Bush Mafia support.
The chemtrails mud slinging is run a lot like the Rush Limbaugh methods are personal attacks toward anyone that does not do what they are being told.
See, if others see similar patterns in persons that hate chemtrail activists exposing the crimes.
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halva
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Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:46 am
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It is a pity you are not interested in knowing about, or expresssing an opinion about, some of the more sophisticated 'anti-chemtrails' input we are getting these days. |
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Swamp Gas
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Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:41 am
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Jim,
I'll assume this is public knowledge and obtained through their own postings. It is not good ethics to publish names IF they are not public domain. But if they are, then go right ahead and talk about them all you want. It's a free forum.
Jay Reynolds real name is John Reynolds, and he was also an editor of sorts for Bill Cooper. I thought he lived in Arizona, but I could be wrong.
You are right about this whole crew which lurks at Maverick's. They have a ton of time on their hands, so maybe they are all disabled, retired, unemployed, or being paid.
One thing is for sure. They are all genuine crackpots.
Oh yeah, I belong to The Racoon Club as a 69th level dendrilator.
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