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julianpenrod
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Julian Penrod
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April 14, 2005
To all:
BigJoe takes Greenpeace to task, in his post, for their evident abandoning of drastic protection of the environment. In the thread, “The Great Riddle: Greenpeace and the Chemtrail Question”, BigJoe addresses a recent article on supposed UNO programs for “stabilization of the climate”, through aerosol spraying. In that article, the author announces the decision by Greenpeace to stay out of the matter, saying they are not “an organization that can undertake the verification of a supposed phenomenon”. They went on to assert that to do so would “overstretch” their capacities, and would not guarantee their “independence”.
In this way, Greenpeace is joining the apparently rapidly expanding list of entities who have essentially violated years, if not decades, of trust, on the part of the public.
The idea of government being graft-ridden and conniving has been a perennial of comment, and even got one of its first major demonstrations during the U-2 plane denial, by Dwight Eisenhower. And saw overt physical demonstration during the Watergate Scandal, of Nixon’s presidency. Cases of turpitude were swift to follow, from Billy Carter accepting money from Libyan interests; to Koreagate; to the Iran-Contra Scandal; to Bill Clinton’s blatant lie to the public; to the evident fraud of the September 11, 2001 incidents. In each case, the obvious stakes have increased significantly. The stakes for the Republicans in their evident treachery started out high, the Democrats seem to aim for more modest overt acts of connivery, yet seem to be increasing steadily, too. The field has increased, lately, to apparently include the judicial branch of government, in the evident wholesale collusion in the Terri Schiavo matter! The quisling praise being heaped on the Vatican for maintaining a psychotically paranoid and bloodthirstily totalitarian secrecy about the machinations they use to choose someone who will “interpret the Word of God” has included the Catholic Church in the ranks of the corrupt and untrustworthy!
That the media are nothing more than whores to those with money seems to have been answered long ago!
And, now, even grass roots type organizations and individuals seem to be joining the flock of the colluding and deceitful!
In New Jersey, for example, the problem of noise from jets spread out over less affluent neighborhoods, to spare the richer neighborhoods, it was said, spawned movements like New Jersey Coalition Against Aircraft Noise, or NJCAAN. When alternative plans demonstrating that land flights could be fanned out over the ocean - for a bump up in fares that was dwarfed by fare increases apparently spawned by CEO greed - were refused consideration by the FAA, it became obvious that the real reason for assaulting communities with jet noise was to drive people away, so developers could steal the land, then resell it for seven times or more what they paid! Through the entire affair, NJCAAN continued its display of opposition, but, in the end, that’s all that it seemed to be, just a display. Because, one by one, from Craig Cantone to Angel Garcia to Pamela Barson-Brown on up, members would assume control; they would, evidently, suddenly come into money; they would move to expensive quiet communities; and some other power broker type would slip in and become the new head! Those without the apparent tendency to willingly trade on position for personal gain - in other words, those who would use their position to actually get something done! - never became head, while apparently conniving outsiders would slip in, just as a cheating head was about to leave, slither their way to a position next to the top, then become the next to be bought off, while long-standing members just stood around, wondering what just happened! That NJCAAN was, evidently, nothing more than an engine for the bargain basement quislings to make a fast buck, became eminently obvious eminently quickly!
More recently, such as the Sierra Club and the Audubon Society demonstrated their evident corrupt ways. In an issue of Time magazine, the head of the Sierra Club was quoted as saying that he thought “some development is necessary”. The Club always used to caution about moderation in developing the wilderness, now the president was saying that some was inevitable, even desirable! Since that time, the Sierra Club has only functioned as a convenient stooge to give an air of credence to developers trying to rape the environment, pretending that whatever they wanted to set up was innocuous and harmless, even necessary! In the last couple of weeks, even the Audubon Society has come out in defense of programs to protect developers!
Everywhere where developers have torn up the land, hordes of indigenous animals have been uprooted, and forced to flee. They fled into residential areas. Foxes, deer, rabbits, even wild turkey have been seen in numerous ex-urban areas of Essex County, for example. These present a double threat to developers. First, they raise the possibility of people who don’t want wildlife on their lawns demanding an end to the ripping up of forests. Also, they are a silent, if potent, rejoinder to all the quisling political claims that “development is doing nothing to alter the environmental nature of the state”! A rabbit, a deer and a skunk prowling along someone’s lawn is a strong reminder of the fact that the wild lands are being sacrificed at a prodigious rate! For this reason, apparently, numerous schemes have been floated for eliminating wildlife wholesale, in “The ‘Garden’ State”. This led to the bear hunt of last year, and the rounding up of Canadian geese, so they could be subjected to extermination methods last seen in the death camps of Nazi Germany! Now, this year, they are proposing massive deer hunts, claiming it’s the deer eating underbrush that is driving birds out of the state. And not the developers ripping up trees wherever they find them, even along urban curbs! Joining the evident crooks in government in their fight to eradicate this level of witnesses against the developers is none other than the Audubon Society! They, too, it seems are more than willing to sacrifice the green of nature for the green of money!
And, now, it is revealed that none other than Art Bell has apparently thrown in his lot with the corrupt and malignant in government, denying even the likelihood of September 11 having been engineered for petty profit by the political power mongers!
And add to that, now, Greenpeace.
It all begs the question of who, in the end, you really can trust!
But all these sell-outs seem to have had one important thing in common, and that is evident in their title, “sell-out”! Every one of them has shown a tendency to “follow the money”! From head of NJCAAN apparently tapping immense corporate coffers, to buy their silence, to the Sierra Club and the Audubon Society siding with the developers, to Art Bell’s apparent act of homage to the buck, each seems to have, effectively, “sold their soul”! Analyzing the role of money, then, can provide insight into how to tell who can be trusted. Unfortunately, that isn’t necessarily as comforting as many might think!
One important result of this comes by way of my own experience on the internet. I once tried to set up two websites, one to sell a large amount of needlepoint floss I had, and another to allow me to print letters to the editor I had sent out, in case editors decided they were too close to the truth to be printed. One site I intended to call knitnstitch.com, the other, njontherecord.org, since it would be not for profit. I used HTML to set the pages up, myself, and I contacted register.com, a purchased rights to use the domain names. Then I tried to contact companies to buy web space. I contacted a number of companies - Digital Sea, Concurrent, and others - trying to set up an independent site, that would have my own domain name. And, one by one, they all failed me! The closest I came was getting “knitnstitch” listed as a web page on that company’s overall web site! They wouldn’t even sell me space for “njontherecord.org”, apparently because it gave the appearance of being interested in putting important issues on the record, and it didn’t have the apparent “money first” ethic of the “.com” sites!
I eventually came to the conclusion, forced upon me by repeated circumstances, that anyone who manages to get a genuine personal website didn’t do it by purely ethical means! Even supposedly “non-political” organizations - “non-governmental groups” is the mealy-mouthed term that apparent CIA operatives in Iraq and Afghanistan use! - apparently manage to get web space by promising to use their clout to drive people’s opinions the way the CEO’s want! There’s not a single “,com”, “,org”, “,net”, “,edu”, “,gov” or “dot anything” that I really trust!
And this is where the unpalatable comes in!
Because chemtrailcentral.com is a “.com”! In a way that I didn’t manage, they approached some web space provider and successfully purchased space for use! No doubt, this can raise the ire of many among the moderators, but the honorable have the right to know if they can trust what they are dealing with. And, where the honorable are trying to do something, they have the obligation to know that what they are using will achieve what they wish! For all that great faith was placed in him, Art Bell apparently turned tail! What guarantee is there that the moderators of Chemtrail Central won’t do the same? Everywhere else, money and the pledge to act quislingly, in service to unscrupulous profit, seem to have been necessary to get web space! And an unethical government would think nothing of trying to keep tabs on the public by artificially engineering “sympathetic” websites, also doing their bit to channel opinion the way government wants! This may all be insulting to the moderators, but the lesson of Richard Nixon, The Sierra Club and Art Bell is clear, namely, the people have to know that those they trust in fighting against malignance are not, themselves, agents of the malignance! Truly honorable moderators would realize the importance to the public of this assurance, and would be accommodating!
But, just as we should take the lesson that you can’t just trust anyone too much, without legitimate reason, we should not take that lesson so far that we do not ever trust anyone ever again!
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bariumblues
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:17 pm
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I must agree with just about everything said in the above. It probably has to do with "Power corrupting" and people's ego's. The guy that started Greenpeace turned into a complete corporate-type sleaze. I've seen it happen to a lot of old hippies......all of them, actually, who don't appear to be motivated by something higher and more spiritual than politics, power issues, etc. etc.
Michael Moore is the only exception that I can think of, so far.........
Art Bell was probably ALWAYS a sell out--a CIA asset like Timothy Leary and many in the UFO field.
I'm beginning to put Tom Bearden in that category now, too. Good disinfo is MOSTLY TRUE. |
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MMoore should swing from a hemp rope right next to W.
Just my humble opinion. He's a shill. F911 was the biggest disinfo project of them all. Well, at least when it came to hard hitting 911 issues. On other fronts it was very well done. But alas..
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bariumblues
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While Watching Fahrenheit 911 I kept thinking sarcastically: Oh how lovely, what a relief..........The problem isn't even half as bad as i thought!!
But......... the info was still quite shocking for most people. I thought that perhaps he was showing as much as he thought he could while still getting folks to pay attention.
The whole truth about anything that involves conspiracy usually scares people so much that they shut down, go into denial, quit listening and call the speaker nuts.
The news has to be delivered in small doses at first, so they don't erect so many defenses.
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quote:
Originally posted by bariumblues
Art Bell was probably ALWAYS a sell out--a CIA asset like Timothy Leary and many in the UFO field..
I always thought Art Bell was a bit out there. I knew Leary personally, as well as many of his friends, and it is strange how disinfo works the other way. The same was put out about Richard Alpert, Terrance McKenna, John Lennon, GLoria Steinem, and many others....That they were CIA assets. That itself is the urban myth. Michael Hollingshead had a 180 degree thought on the CIA and disinfo. Him, Leary, Ginsburg, and other psychedelic researchers were the constant target of the CIA, who wanted LSD used as mind control, whereas all the people who were "CIA assets" wanted to give it to anybody that was ready for it, espceially artists, musicians, poets, scientists, psychologists, and clergy.Was Leary reckless? Yes, at times. But if you look at all the positive research his team did, you would see that it is the same people that killed JFK that jailed him for 10 years for 2 roaches.
CTC is now on Thermit's server and independent of an external server. The only company is the Cable or DSL provider that would have their hands in the mix. The only way to guarantee freedom from corrupt corporations is to use some type of long range Wi-Fi or Airport. Even then, your signal could be jammed.
Trust comes only in face-to-face and eye-to-eye contact. Words are easily manipulated on a screen for whatever purpose the poster wants.
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bariumblues
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Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:37 pm
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My dad got pharmaceutical LSD in the mail from Leary long before anybody around here had ever heard of the stuff (1965 and/or 66) And he visited Leary and Ginsburg in NY. (He continued to take it regularly for years)
I agree that it is easy to mistakenly accuse people of being CIA assets. However, I think many people are "assets" without realizing it. My dad would certainly have fit into that category if spreading LSD around (to bohemians and the general public) was a CIA goal, as some conspiracy writers have said it was. |
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| One site that will never be a sellout on the chemtrail issue
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Here is one site that will never be a sellout in regard to chemtrails! There is only one person posting there ever, and that takes guts, reporting the manmade chemtrail weather. Here is a Link to the site: "Radio_Free_America_Weather_Channel"
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Radio_Free_America_Weather_Channel/
In addition, I am so disappointed in Greenpeace, and their attitude about chemtrails and SCALAR weather technology, and the U.N.'s attitude about it also - what cowards they are! Almost noone wants to talk about what the Russian "Tessla Howitzers" and American "HAARP" beams are doing not only to the weather, but also to the tectonic plates in the way of manmade earthquakes and manmade tsunamis! Here people are using these technologies, and all the environmental groups are just harping on the same old "global warming" chestnuts, that are "safe" and "harmless" for them to discuss, but are too chicken to say boo about chemtrails and SCALAR weather beams, which can, and will, if they are not stopped, wipe out all of the human race, or all life on this planet, in the blink of an eye, if one thing goes wrong.
I am not saying SCALAR technology is totally bad - it could be a wonderful technology, which could save millions of lives from natural earthquakes, tsunamis, even prevent planet-killer space rocks from hitting the earth, if kept in the hands of good people, but in the hands this technology is currently in, all that can come of it is global disaster, wars and destruction.
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Swamp Gas
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quote:
Originally posted by bariumblues
My dad would certainly have fit into that category if spreading LSD around (to bohemians and the general public) was a CIA goal, as some conspiracy writers have said it was.
I think a lot of "Conspiracy" writers are actually Right-Wingers, and the only drugs they ever consume are Caffeine, Alcohol, and over-the-counter. I'll use Henry Makow as an example. The only thing I have in common with this guy is belief in 9/11 government conspiracy, and the usual government hit jobs like JFK, RFK, MLK, etc. After that, their strictly conservative, right wing ideas taint their views on things like LSD, and especially Women's Rights.
Simply put, if the CIA wanted Bohemians and artists to be dosed with acid, then they should have dumped it in the water supply. The early stages of the experimentation indicated that LSD could put standard orthodox psychiatry out of business. Of course, the biggest lobby against it's therapeutic use was the Psychiatric Orthodoxy, which is exactly the same now with the drug Ecstasy or MDMA. Too successful. The same can be said of cancer research. The ones who are using unorthodox methods of treatment are hounded by the FDA.
So here is the breakdown of people using LSD form it's inception:
1) Artists, musicians, poets, clergy, bohemians - They were more non-linear people who were already searching for alternative ways of thinking
2) CIA/Army - wanted it as mind control...a weapon
3) Everyday people - This was the error... People who treated it like it was beer, a party drug. Disastrous results. If it was treated as a key or "Doorway' as Aldous Huxley said, it could have been a valuable tool for intelligence increase, and addiction treatment
From a neurological/chemical standpoint, the mass population consumming aspartame, alcohol, cocaine, and Prozac is more a CIA conspiracy, since they are all Dumb-Down drugs.
http://www.microla.com/ltpages/cgrant.htm
And I agree that the enviornmental groups are not interested in chemtrails. I think the left responds to the same mass media that the right responds to. The media will say "Global Warming", and then the different schoiols of thought will go into action...True or Hoax. The thrid possiblity always seems to escape both the left and the right....Chemtrails! Same as with 9/11. The standard News report is 19 Arabs hijacked 4 planes. The left says, "but they were Saudis, not Iraqis. The rights says, "They were arabs so we must attack Iraq. Does anyone on either side ask, "what about remote control, what about no one using their real names and no pictures, and so on.
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Thu May 05, 2005 11:47 pm
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You say:
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"if the CIA wanted Bohemians and artists to be dosed with acid, then they should have dumped it in the water supply. The early stages of the experimentation indicated that LSD could put standard orthodox psychiatry out of business."
I used to feel nostalgic about LSD,the hippie movement, etc., but not any more.
Before they took LSD, young radicals were effective activists (civil rights movement, for example).
After LSD they were ineffective. It's just that simple.
They didn't want everyone on LSD--Mostly just the folks who were effective radicals. ("Radical" comes from the word "radix" which means "root".) Bohemians are often the radical social change agents because they can step outside of the herd long enough to get a glimpse of what is happening to it.
Also, it seems that LSD increased the chaos in society. And you probably know the illuminati saying on the almighty dollar: "Order out of chaos"....
Get them to meditate on their navels and they are no longer a threat to the status quo!
I came to these conclusions as a result of my own experiences and before reading:
The CIA Created The Drug Culture-- My Weekend with Timothy Leary
http://www.rense.com/general64/theCIAcreatedthedrug.htm
Sign me: Off drugs and loving the clarity! (I lost a lotta years to the blur...) |
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quote:
Originally posted by bariumblues
I lost a lotta years to the blur...)
Sorry to hear that.
CIA propaganda helped create exactly what they wanted. The "Hippie Movement" was a sequence in a long line of non-linear thinkers...Bohemians, The Beats, Hippes, New Wavers, Cyberpunks, and the Ravers. To say these movements and ideas are funded by the CIA is close to be ridulous, and proves my own theory that New Age hysteria has replaced thousands of years of psychedelic culture, much like the Inquisition treated the Witches who were consumming Rye Mold and Mushrooms.
New Age floaters, religious fanatics, Caffeine, and alcohol addicts, that dislike their own past, and blame visionaries like The Beatles, Terrance McKenna, and Tim Leary for thier own shortcomings
Sad.....Glad I don't think that way.
And...for a 180 degree view on the last post:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2082647
Tripping De-Light Fantastic
Are psychedelic drugs good for you?
By John Horgan
A year ago, hoping to dispel the postpartum gloom that had gripped me after I finished writing a book, I hiked into a forest near my home and pitched a tent under some pine trees. I spent that day and evening listening to the forest, scribbling in my journal, and thinking—all while under the influence of a psychedelic drug. The next morning I returned to my wife and children feeling better than I had in months.
What I did that day should not be illegal. Adults seeking solace or insight ought to be allowed to consume psychedelics such as LSD, psilocybin, and mescaline. U.S. laws now classify them as Schedule 1 drugs, banned for all purposes because of their health risks. But recent studies have shown that psychedelics—which more than 20 million Americans have ingested—can be harmless and even beneficial when taken under appropriate circumstances.
Citing this research, some scholars and scientists are proposing that the prohibitions against psychedelics—or entheogens, "God engenderers," as believers in their spiritual benefits prefer to call them—should be reconsidered. This legal issue has recently been brought to a head by a religious sect in New Mexico that is suing the United States for the right to drink a hallucinogenic tea called ayahuasca in its ceremonies. A federal court is expected to rule on the potentially momentous case any day now.
"There is no doubt that hallucinogens can be used unwisely," says Charles Grob, a psychiatrist at the UCLA-Harbor Medical Center, who testified in the ayahuasca case and is a leader of the effort to rehabilitate the reputation of these substances. "But these studies show that they can be used safely within certain parameters."
After LSD's astonishing effects were discovered by the Swiss chemist Albert Hofmann 60 years ago, many psychiatrists considered it and similar compounds potential treatments for psychological ailments. That is why the psychiatrist Humphrey Osmond called the drugs "psychedelic," from the Greek root for "mind-revealing." By the mid-1960s, medical journals had published more than 1,000 papers describing the treatment with psychedelics of some 40,000 patients afflicted with disorders ranging from schizophrenia to alcoholism.
One remarkable study from this period, known as the Good Friday experiment, probed the capacity of psilocybin (the active ingredient of so-called magic mushrooms) to trigger spiritual experiences. On Good Friday, 1962, the Harvard psychiatrist Walter Pahnke dispensed psilocybin and placebos to a group of 30 divinity students and professors assembled in a Boston church. A majority of those who received psilocybin reported sensations of profound awe and self-transcendence that had lasting positive effects.
By the early 1970s, the surging popularity of psychedelics among the young—urged by Timothy Leary to "turn on, tune in, and drop out"—had triggered a backlash. Psychedelics were outlawed, and virtually all research on them was shut down amid rising concerns about their adverse social and medical effects. In 1971, the Journal of the American Medical Association warned that repeated consumption of psychedelics would usually result in permanent "personality deterioration."
Further research has shown these fears to be exaggerated, says John Halpern, a psychiatrist at Harvard Medical School. To be sure, psychedelics can cause acute and sometimes persistent psychopathology, especially in those predisposed to mental illness. But Halpern maintains that these compounds are usually harmless when ingested by healthy individuals in appropriate settings.
As evidence, Halpern cites a five-year study he recently completed with a Harvard colleague of members of the Native American Church, who are permitted by U.S. law to consume the mescaline-containing cactus peyote as a sacrament. Church members who had taken peyote at least 100 times showed no adverse neurocognitive effects compared to a control group.
Similar results have emerged from a study of ayahuasca by UCLA psychiatrist Grob and other scientists, results that Grob describes in the essay collection Hallucinogens. Ayahuasca, a tea brewed from two Amazonian plants, contains the potent psychedelic dimethyltryptamine, or DMT. Although the tea often triggers nausea and diarrhea, Indian shamans have prized it for its visionary properties for centuries, and since 1987 it has served as a legal sacrament for several churches in Brazil. The largest is the Uniao Do Vegetal, or UDV, which combines elements of Christianity with nature worship and claims 8,000 members.
Grob and his colleagues found that UDV members were on average healthier physiologically and psychologically than a control group. The UDV adherents also had elevated receptors for the neurotransmitter serotonin, which has been correlated with resistance to depression and other disorders. Many of the UDV members told the scientists that ayahuasca had helped them overcome alcoholism, drug addiction, and other self-destructive behaviors.
These findings emboldened UDV adherents based in New Mexico to sue the U.S. Justice Department for the right to drink their sacrament. The case dates to 1999, when federal agents seized 30 gallons of ayahuasca that the UDV group had imported from Brazil. Last August, a federal judge in Albuquerque ruled in favor of the UDV worshippers. The judge contended that the Justice Department had not shown that ayahuasca poses enough of a health risk to warrant restricting the UDV members' right to practice their religion. The Justice Department lawyers appealed, and the case is now before the 10th Circuit Court in Denver.
Of course, even advocates of entheogens admit that they pose risks. Ayahuasca can cause cardiac irregularities and other dangerous side effects, Grob notes, when combined with amphetamines, antidepressants, cheese, red wine, and other common substances. Ayahuasca drinkers generally fast before sessions to reduce the risks of these side effects.
In the new book The Antipodes of the Mind, an in-depth study of ayahuasca visions, the Israeli psychologist Benny Shanon recalls that the tea transformed him from a "devout atheist" into someone awestruck by the wonders of nature and of human consciousness. But he warns that ayahuasca can also be "the worst of liars," leaving some users gripped by belief in ghosts, telepathy, and other occult phenomena. Similarly, in Cleansing the Doors of Perception, the eminent religious scholar Huston Smith recalls that during the Good Friday experiment, in which he participated, one subject became so agitated that he had to be injected with Thorazine. Smith nonetheless contends that entheogens can serve a spiritual purpose, if used with reverence; after all, mind-altering substances have played an inspirational role in many religions, including Hinduism and the Eleusinian cult of ancient Greece.
I have firsthand experience of the double-edged nature of entheogens, which I've taken sporadically since my late teens. There have been moments of vertiginous anxiety; one particularly bad trip in 1981 left me with unsettling flashbacks for months. But overall the pros have outweighed the cons. I usually end up feeling the way I did after my LSD sojourn last summer: existentially refreshed, with a renewed appreciation of ordinary existence.
Entheogens are far less addictive and toxic than alcohol or tobacco. Why should we continue to be denied their benefits, in religious or non-religious contexts? Risks could be minimized by making these substances available only through licensed therapists, who can screen clients for mental instability and advise them on how to make their experiences as rewarding as possible. Some people might be prescribed entheogens for a specific disorder, such as depression or alcoholism. And just as drugs such as Prozac and Viagra are prescribed not just to heal the ill but also to enhance the lives of the healthy, so might entheogens.
This scenario may not be so far-fetched, given last year's court decision favoring the UDV in New Mexico and other developments. A sanctioned study of psilocybin's capacity for treating obsessive-compulsive disorder is now under way at the University of Arizona. And UCLA psychiatrist Grob recently received FDA approval to investigate whether psilocybin can relieve anxiety in late-stage cancer patients. Maybe those of us who enjoy an occasional psychedelic sojourn will be able to do so without feeling like outlaws. Wouldn't that be a trip?
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Exactly.........The CIA turned a psychedelic culture into a Prozac and Cocaine culture.
The government wants everyone to hate the 60s.
They can't afford to have that again.
Which is why the Rave Act tries to snuff out the current manifestation of the psych culture.
I remember very clearly that 1965-1972, heroin and cocaine were shunned by everyone. Then all of a sudden, those drugs were appearing at colleges, Greenwich Village, San Francisco, as well as all large metro areas. If anything Heroin, cocaine, and downers were infiltrated into the psychedelic culture to destroy it.
Leary, The Beatles, and McKenna....CIA agents!!! 
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bariumblues
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Fri May 06, 2005 11:24 pm
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I think that perhaps my comments are misunderstood.
I have no regrets about my psychedelic experiences and I continue to live a totally bohemian life. (My grown children tell me that I'm the most unconventional (eccentric) person they know, and i take that as a compliment.)
I did pharmaceutical grade LSD with my father when I was 15. My dad was probably the first person in the midwest to take it. He was getting it in the mail from Leary himself and later eventually made a pilgrimmage to the "Castalia" mansion in Millbrook, NY. I imagine this influenced him to quit his job as a local television writer and personality. He went to work for the local Bd. of education, and became so addicted to LSD that he was even taking it at work.
A few years later he went on TV and said that the high school students were starting to smoke pot. This created a furor. The Chief of Police circulated a pamphlet saying that my dad was a communist Pinko and should be fired. A high school Principal went on TV and said that there wasn't any pot smoking happening at his high school! The Bd of Ed. gave my dad a year to find a new job someplace else. The Playhouse staged Henrik Ibsen's great play "Enemy of the People" and asked my dad to play the lead. Which he did-- brilliantly.
Many years later the mayor wrote my dad a personal letter of apology. (His kids were all on drugs, of course.)
Yeah, the good old days. Everything is so fascist now, by comparison. But I don't glamourize those days as much as I used to.
I realize that all drugs are medicines-- and they can also be abused.
My children are probably third generation bohemians. I paint and am a chemtrails activist, etc etc. I'm very glad my drug days are over. I get lots of natural highs and spiritual highs now -- I'm really glad not to be dependent on a substance outside myself to find joy and take pleasure in simple things.
My drug of choice was Marijuana--Pot is a terrible taskmaster-- she exacts a far higher toll than a user is usually aware of. A drug induced high is eventually followed by a low because of the changes in brain chemistry-- especially endorphin levels. |
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Swamp Gas
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Of course, anything can be abused, even "Spiritual Enlightenment". Tweaking brain chemistry is an exact science, and it is not a party or to be taken lightly.
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