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mark sky

Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
ChemTrail Persistance Series
Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:32 pm
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Initial Spray in Selma Oregonphoto below
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?tem plate=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1015&action=searchdbdisplay
Location: Selma , Oregon United States of America
Note: Sept 8 2001 pre WTC: Five jets in a period of 15 minutes flew trails headed west. They appeared in a blue sky. They laid a pattern seen over a church in the small town of Selma Oregon. Please take note of the trail second from the top, the one with a curve in it at the left end, you will see it in later photos as a marker. also note how this plane needed to "get in the pattern", and the broken ends of these trails as the chem juice was turned on and off.
30 Minutes Later in Grants Pass Oregonphoto below
Location: Grants Pass, Oregon United States of America
Note: This photo was taken 20 miles ( 30 minutes later) at approximately 4:30 PM on 9-8-01. Note how the 4th trail from the bottom on the left side (north side) still has the crooked bend. A new line has been started going straight up on the left side of the photo, and if you look carefully at the bottom of that line near the hillside you can see the start of a new branch line forking off to the right.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?tem plate=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1016&action=searchdbdisplay
Location: Gold Hill, Oregon United States of America
Note: Sept 8 01: the original 5 trails have now "diffused" and widened. The crooked trail from the original photo is now number 4 from the left (north) side of the photo. Two new trails (seen starting in the previous photo) have now "bloomed" into persistence at the left side of the photo, and one new trail, at the right side of the photo, has "joined" the new "cloud cover" in the sky. This is another 25 miles to the east of Grants Pass Oregon.
click below for photo~ I cant make it paste here for some reason
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?tem plate=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1017&action=searchdbdisplay
Later Still in Brownsboro Oregon photo below
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?tem plate=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=1018&action=searchdbdisplay
Brownsboro, Oregon
Note: Sept 8 01: the trails from Selma Oregon still spreading out to form a haze. Trail 3rd from the left is the crooked one from the first photo taken in Selma Oregon, approximately two hour before. The newer trails on the right and left of the photo (seen in the Grants Pass photo being sprayed) are persisting as well.
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Sun Oct 14, 2001 7:02 pm
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Nice work there Mr. sky. As usual you are right on the "mark" with your information.
Good photo documentation... AAA+++
I agree totally on the crooked line being the marker. Here in my neck of the woods the same thing can be observed. Lay the marker and build from it.
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3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
Posts: 1344
Location: Lubbock, Texas |
Mon Oct 15, 2001 5:49 pm
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Mark, the photos taken in Gold Hill and Brownsboro look like they're taken from the same location. Is it possible that they are mis-labeled? |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
Posts: 2501
Location: right here |
Tue Oct 16, 2001 7:27 pm
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They do look like the same location 3T3.
Great pictures mark!! Very interesting marker documentation and agree with your assessment. The evidence couldn't be any clearer IMO  |
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mark sky

Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
Tue Oct 16, 2001 9:34 pm
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I am pretty sure of the location but will double check tonight, been haveing LooOOng work daze lately |
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mark sky

Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
Wed Oct 17, 2001 4:50 am
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Well you are exactly right 3T3L1
what sharp eyes you have
I lined up the two prints and the trees match as well as the hill terrain.
You win a prize~ what i am not sure yet
perhaps an all expense paid vacation to planet Pure Air?
(wouldnt that be grand)
the photo that i said was "Brownsboro" is in fact a verticle shot taken in Gold Hill Oregon at the same location and time as shot number 3, so numbers 3 and 4 just show the width and height of the same location and time.
Now i have the mystery of where my shot of Brownsboro is, perhaps in my "second camera" the little $5.99 disposable?
I guess i will find out when i fill up that roll, i also a few "dawn in Klamath Falls" photos i cant aCcount for |
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3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
Posts: 1344
Location: Lubbock, Texas |
Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:56 pm
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Mark, when travelling in Eastern New Mexico, I've noticed that when I spot a well-defined cloud or trail in the sky ahead of me, I can travel about 5 miles down the road and be directly under it. With these trails, am I understanding correctly that you had to travel about 45 miles to be directly under them? |
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mark sky

Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:11 pm
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I will try to answer this as best i can, based on my perseptions of distance. I am learning that often the jets are further away than i had previosely believed~ an example was my perseption about how far offshore the jets were spraying used to be 2 to five miles, but after having one go directly over head to the west then joining the pack of drippers out there~ i would have to say the are 20 miles offshore. Based on the time it took the jet to get in with the pack. That makes the trails they leave THAT much larger~ than i had previosely thought!
So with these photos~ i would guess in the first one in Selma Oregon, that the right side of the picture shows trails about 10 miles to my front, while the left ends of the trails are 35 miles away at the hill shown in the second photo.
Realize that the upper air was moveing eastward, while our vehicle was also moving eastward, at almost the same speed it seemed.
in the third and forth picture, at Gold Hill, we are under the mid part of the trails, but still not up to the "crooked" part,yes this about 45 miles.
By the time we got to Brownsboro we were even with the trails.I have to find where the other picturs are, I have different rolls of film in different cameras for different uses~ it will turn up somewhere.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by mark sky on 10-17-2001] |
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3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
Posts: 1344
Location: Lubbock, Texas |
Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:23 pm
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Thanks, Mark! Maybe your air is more transparent than what I see in Eastern New Mexico? We do have dust storms here, so maybe that's the difference. |
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3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
Posts: 1344
Location: Lubbock, Texas |
Sun Nov 11, 2001 7:04 pm
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3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
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Location: Lubbock, Texas |
Sun Nov 11, 2001 7:08 pm
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mark sky

Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon |
Sun Nov 11, 2001 8:06 pm
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no actually that photo of Ashland Oregon was taken May 1999, Sorry 3T3l1, I am currently working on getting some of my old trail persistance photos into the database here, and as I get time I will show you some really persistant series. Thanks for the map and all your effort in assembling the photos with the map. I hope to have some photos of "spider web" soon along with the ID of the spider. |
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3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
Posts: 1344
Location: Lubbock, Texas |
Sun Nov 11, 2001 11:26 pm
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What happened to my reply? Anyway, I deleted the posts so's not to confuse anybody. Thanks for clearing up my confusion, Mark! |
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