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http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20050604155803754
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The Big Stick Political Policy of Republikkkons
Oh if the Jesus lovers could only love like the great imaginary leader of the Christian religion. You see in the bible Jesus was more a figure of love than anything else in my opinion. If Jesus really existed, he would come back right now and smite all of these ignorant Republikkkon nut-jobs who never grew up. Jesus would first explain the meaning of civilization and being civilized. Jesus would not be down with starting wars for profit. Jesus would not allow so called religious zealot leaders who own diamond mines in Africa to be pseudo political leaders. Jesus would probably tell them like he supposedly told his apostles, put away all of your worldly possessions. Come to think about it, if Jesus really did exist he would be getting a sense of deja-vu from Coup Leader Bush aka the modern day Pontious Pilate. Jesus would be slayed once again by maniacal religious right nut-jobs if he had any inclination whatsoever to preach about love, compassion, and understanding. You see the faux Jesus lovers of this time are all about killing and maiming people of color for their personal gain. Jesus would not be able to come to terms with the big stick political policy of the Republikkkon party.
If Jesus had the balls to show up he would ask these murderers why they haven’t grown up. He would wonder why people who are supposedly adults rule the world with a 1st grade bully policy. You see I know the real truth. The truth is not that Republikkkons fight in the name of freedom for America. The truth is their minds were incapable of growing to the point where they could think like adults. Is Republikkkon policy any different from what an elementary school bully could come up with? Of course not! They are exactly the same. The elementary school bully uses force to get what he or she wants. The Republikkkon regime in office now uses force to get what they want. When caught the elementary school bully lies about their activity. Now that the Bush regime has been exposed to being liars with almost everything they do, the main stream media does its best job to cover it up, or just bury the story so people won’t find the information.
So next time you hear Republikkkons talk about how unpatriotic it is to talk about their war for profit, just know that in their minds they’re calling you a little sissy. Remember when you are paying taxes for the rich that it’s just your lunch money being taken away. Kind of makes you wish Jesus really existed so he could save us from these bully’s. You can bet it won’t be the current crop of democrats in the senate and congress that save us from them. They refuse to even take their lunch money to school.
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Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:18 pm
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June 4th, 2005 3:27 pm
Air Force Academy Chief Admits School Bias
By Robert Weller / Associated Press
BROOMFIELD, Colo. - The superintendent of the Air Force Academy acknowledged to leaders of a national Jewish group Friday that religious intolerance permeates the military school.
"As a commander, I know I have problems in my cadet wing," Lt. Gen. John Rosa said at a meeting of the Anti-Defamation League's executive committee. "I have issues in my staff, and I have issues in my faculty — and that's my whole organization."
He said he admonished the academy's No. 2 commander, Brig. Gen. Johnny Weida, a born-again Christian, for sending an e-mail promoting National Prayer Day.
"We sat down and said, `This is not right,' and he acknowledged that," Rosa said, adding there had been other incidents that crossed the line. "Perception is reality. We don't have respect."
The academy has been under investigation because of complaints that evangelical Christians have harassed cadets who do not share their faith. Some cadets have complained of anti-Semitic slurs, and one of the top chaplains at the school claims she was fired because she criticized what she saw as proselytizing at the academy.
Academy leaders deny the claim, saying Capt. MeLinda Morton was simply reassigned to Japan. The Defense Department's inspector general is investigating.
Rosa said he has spoken with academy critics and agrees with many of their complaints. He said he didn't learn of a Yale University memo issued last year on religious intolerance at the school near Colorado Springs until much later.
Rosa said the problem is "something that keeps me awake at night."
"If everything goes well, it's probably going to take six years to fix it," he added.
Mikey Weinstein, an academy graduate who has become a leading critic, said Rosa's acknowledgment "is too little and too late."
"We need new leadership at the Air Force Academy," said Weinstein, who has sent two sons to the academy.
Abe Foxman, the ADL's national director, said he was convinced the general wants to do the right thing.
"We walked away with the feeling that the man is committed to solving the problem. The question is whether the system will let him," Foxman said after meeting with Rosa for 90 minutes earlier Friday.
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| US WENT TO HELL WHEN WE GAVE GOD THE FINGER
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 HI THERE. I AM A CHRISTIAN. NOT ALL OF US ARE DECEIVED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BLAME CHRISTIANS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S FAIR. THEY ARE HUMAN JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. IT'S MY OPINION THAT THE REAL BLAME SHOULD BE PLACED AT THE FEET OF THOSE WHO ARE DEVOTED TO A "PARTY" (I.E. REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRATS, ETC.) INSTEAD OF OUR CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS. WE CAN ALSO BLAME THE APATHETIC AND THOSE WHO DON'T DO THEIR RESEARCH. MOST PEOPLE, CHRISTIANS AND NON-CHRISTIANS ALIKE, BELIEVE THE LYING MAINSTREAM MEDIA. AND REMEMBER, BUSH DIDN'T GET IN ON THE "CHRISTIAN VOTE." HE WAS ELECTED THROUGH VOTER FRAUD. PLEASE DON'T JOIN THE BANDWAGON OF THE FBI, CIA ETC. THEY ARE TARGETING PATRIOTS AND CHRISTIANS AS THE "REAL" TERRORISTS. BUSH ISN'T A "CHRISTIAN." HE IS A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. HOW CAN HE CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN: HE BELONGS TO THE "SKULL AND BONES" ELITE NWO. THE BIBLE STATES THAT A CHRISTIAN CAN'T SERVE TWO MASTERS. BUSH IS SERVING DEMONS AND DECEIVING MANY WITH HIS USE OF BIBLE TEXTS TAKEN TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT. I, FOR ONE, AM NOT DECEIVED. PLEASE "DON'T SHOOT ME. I'M ALREADY WOUNDED." [url]SEE infowars.com FOR MORE INFO ON THE SKULL CAN BONES SOCIETY. [/url] (I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO MY POINT OF VIEW.)b][/b]
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eaglesfly_jetslop,
Appreciate your comments, but would you please STOP SHOUTING?
Thanks
You can add environmentalists, animal right acrivists, hippies, liberals, Pagans, feminists, and everyday working people to the "hit list", along with True Christians and Patriots.
Perosnally, I do follow the "God vs devil" dichotomy. I simply see things as supporting cruelty and sadism or not. George W Bush and his band of Neo-Cons are definitely cruel people, AND their disdain for statisctics and science make them in the same league as the "chrisitians" who tortured and burned witches and pagans.
A true Christian would be tolerant and understanding of other people's belief systems
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I don't believe that ALL Christians are this way but I do believe that most are. For one, just look at the prominence and success of goons like Falwell and Robertson out there and the extremism that they endorse. Want to know why they are able to exist so successfully? It's because they have Christian support, and lots of it. When the Christians want something banned or removed from society they seem to be able to organize and band together seamlessly to achieve it with protests and boycotting. Yet I hear no outrage or expressions of disapproval for those that spout all kinds of mindless hatred nightly on the mainstream media. This tacit acceptance makes them all just as guilty in my opinion of crimes against humanity. This type of rhetoric wouldn't be allowed to flourish if enough of them had the balls to stand up to them. But they don't do they? And it's not because they can't either, it's because they don't want to. That's where the stereotypes begin to fall in to place and I have no problems casting judgment upon all Christians they way they do against gays if for any reason, to prove a point. How does it feel to be condemned and attacked for your beliefs and preferences? The real question then becomes, do you actually deserve it? I would say YES!
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I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BLAME CHRISTIANS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S FAIR. THEY ARE HUMAN JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Why not apply that sentiment across the board to all of God's people? You know, the ones that you classify as being "wrong" or perverse" because you're wonderful Bible authorizes you to do so. Now that is the definition of unfair as you put it. How about a little consistency and seeing the grass from the other side of the fence for a change? I find it both strange and glaringly hypocritical that you want others to accept you without question but yet you tout a religion that does the same to others that it rejects. Questioning religion has become so taboo and it shouldn't be. Before you go and get upset with me, remember that I'm just stating things out loud that many others already believe but are just too afraid to say.
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:49 pm
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quote:
Appreciate your comments, but would you please STOP SHOUTING?
Tell me about it.
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Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:03 pm
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We are heading for a Theocracy and a government that legislates hatred on behalf of religious extremists.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=533&e=2&u=/ap/20050606/ap_on_re_us/religion_ap_ipsos_poll
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Americans are far more likely to consider religion central to their lives and to support giving clergy a say in public policy than people in nine countries that are close allies, according to an AP-Ipsos poll.
Here's that support again:
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When politicians in this country try to blend religion and politics, they find a comparatively receptive climate.
Scary stuff indeed!
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Almost 40 percent in this country said religious leaders should try to sway policymakers, notably higher than in other countries.
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"Our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian policies and religious leaders have an obligation to speak out on public policy, otherwise they're wimps," said David Black, a retiree from Osborne, Pa., who agreed to be interviewed after he was polled.
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The poll found Republicans are much more likely than Democrats to think clergy should try to influence government decisions in this country.
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The Theocracy is indeed consumming the USA. The more religious people are, the easier to control. The True Christians are unfortunately are a minority of all CHristians at this point.
Theocracy is also just a front end "widget" for Zionism.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm
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Falwell, Swaggart and Robertson and his ILK are what I like to call CRONY Christians.
To me the original and TRUE Christians were and still are the Essenes.
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Hi...I am not trying to shout. If it came across that way, please accept my apology. I have problems with my eyesight. So I type "large", and if I don't I usually can't see all the mistakes I make, and correct them. I appreciate all your comments, and you all certainly are entitled to your opinions. I accept and respect your point of view. I believe that sodomy is a sin as the Bible states. Let all men be liars and God the truth. So is "drunkeness", adultery, cowardness (wimps) etc. That is what Jesus was crusified for: ALL our sins. That doesn't mean we keep sinning. If we love Jesus, it's an automatic to try to follow his commandments. If I love my husband I will try to please him. Same principal. I believe the gays are as guilty is the Christians, as far as "in your face", "you better accept my point of view, or I will attack your beliefs." At least that is what I have witnessed and experienced. That's witchhunting, also. Except its the "Christians" they attack because they believe what God states: That sodomy is an abomination to Him. They aren't any more tolerant of the beliefs of Christians than Christians are tolerant of their belief that "Gay is o.k." and sanctioned by God. I'm not a hyprocrite. I believe what the Bible (of the Creator of this Universe says) and I will stick to it. No matter what the cost. That doesn't mean that I dislike or hate anyone. The opposite is true. I usually get all the hate from everyone else, and accused of things I am not. At any rate, thanks for your thoughts and your comments. I don't take offense. Bless ya'll. (Hope there isn't a lot of mistakes in this message. I had a hard time seeing what I was typing)
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Being Gay is not a choice. You are born either gay, straight, or some combination of the two.
Being a Christian is a choice.
Now, before we go any further, please explain to me what is "Evil" about being gay, WITHOUT referring to the Bible. Clear technical or psychological terms would be the best.
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I believe that sodomy is a sin as the Bible states. Let all men be liars and God the truth
First of all, since when did anal sex become exclusively a homosexual act? You do understand that many happily married heterosexual husbands and wives sodomize one another on a nightly basis (and enjoy it) don't you? Should we be in and out of their bedrooms every night regulating their sexual practices? Do we need to launch a new division of anal police to monitor such activities? Aren't their much more important issues to be worried about? Also, if it's just sodomy that you object to, then what about two gay people simply fostering a fully plutonic relationship? Is that still a sin and just how much touching is actually allowed? Does it suddenly become a sin if you later hold hands, hug or kiss? How are you personally being hurt when two consenting adults are expressing their love for one another? Don't you find it a bit strange that your God would be opposed to the expression of love within his own creations?
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So is "drunkeness", adultery, cowardness (wimps) etc. That is what Jesus was crusified for: ALL our sins.
So if we're going to be in the business of taking the Bible literally lets examine a few passages a bit closer shall we? I'd like you to tell me just how many of the following excerpts of scripture you yourself advocate as the Bible does in your everyday life.
Sacrifice your children:
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"Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you." (Genesis 22:1-1
More ritualistic sacrifice:
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At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, "O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you." (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT)
Killing every man, keep the women and children as slaves:
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As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
Killing the victims of rape:
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If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
Selling daughter in to slavery:
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When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Attack the women:
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Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Kill those who disagree:
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Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill gays:
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"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill the priest's daughter:
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A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
God kills our children
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The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)
And that's just a tiny sample of all of the misogynistic, violent, spiteful, evil, judgmental and ritualistic craziness found in the Bible. Do you support all of these things or do you just pick and choose and hating fags just happens to be convenient for you?
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That's witchhunting, also. Except its the "Christians" they attack because they believe what God states: That sodomy is an abomination to Him. They aren't any more tolerant of the beliefs of Christians than Christians are tolerant of their belief that "Gay is o.k." and sanctioned by God. I'm not a hyprocrite. I believe what the Bible (of the Creator of this Universe says) and I will stick to it. No matter what the cost. That doesn't mean that I dislike or hate anyone. The opposite is true. I usually get all the hate from everyone else, and accused of things I am not.
Of course gay people are going to fight back against persecution and discrimination just as the blacks did of slavery and the Jews did of the holocaust. You seem to believe that just about any kind of bias is justified by your faith. So I guess it would be ok for slave owners to own blacks just as long as their God says it's ok? Or that it was ok to destroy all of the Jews because the God of the Nazis said it was ok? We have a president now that states that he was given the go ahead to start wars from God. He then uses this "permission" to launch a holy war against people of other religions. If we are supposed to accept your Christian values just because it is your faith, then should we also accept the beliefs of those that view Christianity as evil as well? Or are you supposed to murder all that disagree as sanctioned in the Bible because only you are correct? A bit arrogant and pompous don't you think? What if someone's religion states that it's ok to molest children, murder or torture people? Are we not allowed to question their faith? Religion is being used a veil to disguise to the real sin here and that's religious discrimination against gay people. Intolerance is intolerance no matter how you attempt to mask it with your belief systems.
Christians are not being attacked, they are being retaliated against. There's a big difference. You choose to be the aggressor with your condemnation and judgment. You must expect that those that you are stereotyping are eventually going to rebel against you. At that point the bully isn't allowed to then say that now he is being treated unfairly. The bully is the one that started it therefore the bully is guilty and deserves the ensuing backlash.
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Now, before we go any further, please explain to me what is "Evil" about being gay, WITHOUT referring to the Bible.
It can't be done without making yourself look like a completely ignorant bigot. That's where faith comes in. It grants you the leeway to point your finger in scrutiny at others in a way that society will accept. It's the kind of barbaric prejudice and bias that's been programmed and conditioned in to society by religion. It is based on fear and ignorance and not love, acceptance or tolerance.
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Being a Christian is a choice.
Why would anyone choose to be that way in a society full of Christians that reject them?
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