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What Really Happened on 9/11?

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PostSun Jan 08, 2006 1:07 am  Reply with quote  

The main blog entry is an excerpt of Kevin Barret's work over at MUJCA.com, but I think there are enough supplementary links to merit posting here;


Apocalypse of Coercion – Why We Listen to What ‘They’ Say About 9/11.
http://www.gnn.tv/B11846
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PostMon Jan 09, 2006 7:11 pm  Reply with quote  

I've done all the transcripts I'm interested in doing from McKinney's briefing from last summer, you can view them here:

http://www.gnn.tv/B12001

You might get a kick out of this, Stallion...

$13K for 911 truth?
http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2009/_13K_for_911_truth
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PostTue Jan 10, 2006 9:26 pm  Reply with quote  


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PostWed Jan 11, 2006 12:11 am  Reply with quote  

I was browsing Snopes.com, and they do seem to debunk atleast one of the 9/11 arguements I've seen used fairly often.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/fema.htm

Seems FEMA weren't in NYC the night before.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

This one is doubtful seeing as they obviously believe the 9/11 commission represents the gospel truth.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp

Again, they let the 9/11 Commission have the final word.

The site is obviously very bitter about the 9/11 truth movement - but are they purposefully avoiding trying to debunk controlled demolitions, given that all their official sources have steered well clear of the idea?
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PostFri Jan 13, 2006 2:07 am  Reply with quote  


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Long Debunked "Rumor" Validated by Giuliani

FEMA in NYC prior to 9-11 for Project TRIPOD terror drill, scheduled for 9-12

Scoop | June 29 2004

As of this writing, June 2, 2004, the transcript of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's testimony to the 9-11 Commission during the May 18-19, 2004 hearings in New York is the only transcript of that hearing omitted from the Commission website ( http://www.9-11commission.gov).

Did Rudy say something wrong?

In case you missed it live, you can listen to his testimony in full at the WNYC radio website at: http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/28147. As Giuliani recounts his experience of the day of 9/11, and the evolving location of the Emergency Command Center that morning, you might want to pay special attention to what he says at the end of his prepared statement:

"... the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed."

Readers may remember that on the days immediately after 9/11/01 there was a nasty little rumor running around the internet that FEMA had arrived in NYC on Monday September 10, thus implying foreknowledge of the disaster. The source of the rumor was a September 13, 2001 interview between CBS News anchor Dan Rather and Tom Kennedy (later corrected to Kenney) of FEMA National Urban Search and Rescue. Here is a transcript of the brief interview:

Rather: "Tom Kennedy... Kenney, a rescue worker with the National Urban Search and Rescue, it's part of FEMA... "

Kennedy: "We're currently one of the first teams that was deployed to support the city of New York for this disaster. We arrived on late Monday night, and went into action on Tuesday morning. And not until today did we get a full opportunity to work the entire site."

The rumors which subsequently ravaged online chatrooms and 9/11 websites were officially denied by FEMA. In a November 15, 2001 WorldNetDaily piece titled "FEMA: No prior knowledge of 9-11: Agency dispels Net rumor, says team didn't arrive in NYC Sept. 10", Jon Dougherty wrote: ( http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25329)

"The Federal Emergency Management Agency has said it did not have urban search and rescue teams in place in New York City prior to the Sept. 11 attacks, contrary to an Internet-based rumor alleging otherwise.

In the interview, Kenney misspoke when he said he and his team arrived in New York City and were "finally on the ground" and deployed by "Monday night. ... " If accurate, that would have meant the team arrived Sept. 10 - the night before the attacks.

According to a spokesman in the office of Vito Pizzi, who works in FEMA's federal coordination office, a total of 16 teams were put on alert or activated Sept. 11. Two of those teams were sent in to Ground Zero the next day, Sept. 12.

FEMA officials said Kenney, in the head of the moment, misstated his team's arrival date. Kenney could not be reached for comment."

The rumor of FEMA presence prior to 9/11 was so stubborn that it took another debunking in a September 5, 2002 Boston Herlad piece written by a Stephanie Schorow. Schorow recommends that 'X-File fiction' can be separated from fact with simple research and checking of multiple sources. In reference to the rumor that "FEMA sent the Urban Search and Rescue Team to New York City THE NIGHT BEFORE the attacks occurred!", Schorow writes:

"But if you search further, you'll see Tom "Kennedy'' is actually Tom Kenney, an officer from the Massachusetts Urban Search and Rescue Task Force; apparently Rather got the name wrong. Likewise, common sense dictates Kenney simply said Monday when he meant Tuesday.

To confirm, the Herald called the Kenney home on Cape Cod and spoke to Kenney's wife, who said that her husband did go to New York on Sept. 11, not Sept. 10. She explained that he was under extreme stress when Rather interviewed him, and added wryly that it was typical of her husband to confuse dates."

( http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/bostonherald090502.html )

We should note that the actual wording of the debunking accounts does not deny that FEMA was in New York on September 10, it merely denies that the Urban Search and Rescue Task Force was not in New York on September 10. We should note that FEMA, when denying presence in NYC prior to 9/11 did not raise the possibility that there was confusion about the existence of a separate FEMA team for the scheduled 9/12 bioterror drill, a drill which we have learned is named Operation TRIPOD. It seems that prior to the Giuliani testimony there has been scant mentioning of the bioterror drill.

According to a May 22, 2002 Press Release from the NYC Office of Emergency Management, the TRIPOD, or 'Point-of-Dispensing' drill, was successfully held that day. The Press Release states:

"TRIPOD had originally been scheduled to take place on September 12th, 2001, at Pier 92 - which ironically had served as the temporary home of OEM shortly after the terrorist attacks on 9/11."

The release also mentions that the TRIPOD exercise is supported by "The Office of Justice Programs, through the Office for Domestic Preparedness". The Office for Domestic Preparedness was the effort assigned to Dick Cheney by George W. Bush on May 8, 2001. Although reports indicate that Cheney never convened any meetings of this Task Force prior to September 2001, it seems that there must have been some sort of planning involved with the organization and scheduling of Operation TRIPOD for September 12, 2001. With all of the unpleasant news of 9/11, it must have pleased Cheney that the scheduling of this drill made the pre-assembled emergency team immediately available to New York City. Who would have thought?

Major questions exist as to why FEMA would deny being in New York City prior to 9/11 without mentioning the 9/12 bioterror drill. These questions must now be addressed as the initial suspicions of those who learned of the Tom Kenney statement have been clearly validated. The coincidental presence of a large FEMA team in NYC at the location, Pier 92, which became the Command Center for the entire emergency operation is disturbing. An alert press and a legitimate 9-11 Commission should have raised this issue long ago.

Mr. Vito Pizzi, listed as FEMA Branch Chief was contacted for this article.

http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/groundzero/prisonplanet_longdebunked.htm

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PostFri Jan 13, 2006 2:09 am  Reply with quote  

From The Financial Times:

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Must-reads for budding fraudsters
By Frank Partnoy
Published: August 10 2005


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One interesting question remains unanswered: what role did terrorist financing play in the build-up to the attacks of September 11 2001? There are two pieces of evidence on this point. First, during the days immediately prior to 9/11 the volume of put options, investments that pay off only when a stock declines in price, surged in the parent companies of American Airlines and United Airlines. According to a footnote in the 9/11 commission report, this unusual trading had no connection to terrorism.

Some people remain suspicious, and have pointed to a second piece of evidence: the dramatic spike in US dollars - particularly Dollars 100 bills - in circulation in August 2001, one of the three largest monthly increases in 50 years. This surge might have an innocent explanation. But it might also indicate that people with advance knowledge of the attacks were hurriedly withdrawing cash.

Is it possible that terrorists profited from inside information in advance of their attacks? The US government insists the answer is no, but it is hard to imagine that terrorists who are savvy in using shell companies and offshore trusts to hide the identity of their contributors would not also think of trading on inside information or withdrawing cash early.

[SNIP]

Full article:
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/d6c3d1e2-093a-11da-880b-00000e2511c8.html

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PostFri Jan 13, 2006 2:11 am  Reply with quote  

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Originally posted by reprehensor
You might get a kick out of this, Stallion...

$13K for 911 truth?
http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2009/_13K_for_911_truth

Idea Paging Mr. Walters... ?
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PostFri Jan 13, 2006 2:29 am  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by reprehensor
The main blog entry is an excerpt of Kevin Barret's work over at MUJCA.com, but I think there are enough supplementary links to merit posting here;


Apocalypse of Coercion – Why We Listen to What ‘They’ Say About 9/11.
http://www.gnn.tv/B11846

Excellent article, Rep! Thank you for posting it here.
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