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KiraCyr

Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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Location: Victoria B.C. Canada

HAARP website Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:23 am

I don't know if the server is down, but I find it a little strange that I can't access it anymore. How about all of you?

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

Et in Arcadia ego

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Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:31 am

Loads fine here.
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KiraCyr

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Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:39 am

quote:
Originally posted by Et in Arcadia ego
Loads fine here.

Not for me. Crying or Very sad

Et in Arcadia ego

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Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:50 am

Don't worry, you ain't missing much anyways.
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BigJoe

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Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:48 pm

Try this link, I just got it come up fine.

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

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BigJoe

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Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:49 pm

On their homepage they look like such nice, civilized people.

Who would ever guess!!!

Louis Aubuchont

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DELETED DUE TO THE POLICY OF CTC IN LETTING THE DEBUNKERS AND TROUBLEMAKERS LIKE "FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe" AKA, "MAY41970' OVERRUN THE SITE.

FOR THAT REASON I WILL NOT HAVE MY POST ARCHIVED HERE AND I NO LONGER WISH TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SITE.

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BigJoe

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Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:57 pm

That's what gets me so angry, Lou...

These are our hard earned tax dollars that these fools are squandering on these incredibly dangerous projects, and as you refer to... most of these government "scientists" wouldn't know what a REAL job was if one was put right in their faces and was offered to them!

And the icing on this ugly cake is... they're not EVEN asking for our permission to spend OUR money on these sick projects... they've just given themselves the liberty to go ahead and do them... doesn't matter if half the population gets killed in the process!

I used to think that this was a free country, but the chemtrails were the tip of a huge iceberg that taught me WAY differently!!!

Louis Aubuchont

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BigJoe

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Re: Reply to Big Joe. Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:50 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Louis Aubuchont

People want change but they are gutless to take a stand and do anything to bring it about, they want the crooked politicians to do it for them but that is not going to happen, now is it ?

In spite of what we are told on a 24/7 basis, this country is in deep decay, rotting from the inside out just like a cancer eating it away slowly, painfully, those that can not see it refuse to see it out of apathy, stupidity or fear.

I couldn't agree with you more, Lou!

There is great evil presently loose and running rampant on this planet today, and as you say, it is based on apathy, stupidity, fear and greed. The way that I see it, unless the overall population wakes up to this fact, and wakes up very soon, we are all in big trouble. There won't be a second chance. At this point, I believe there IS still time... but how do you wake up a vast population of sleeping sheeple?!!! Confused

visual ray wizard

Joined: 09 Jul 2005
Posts: 439
Location: United States

Have you guys seen the Magnetometer link lately? Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:26 pm

I keep up with space weather along with traditional weather sites in an ongoing investigation linking the two as being related.

I have recorded and archived a very strange pattern in the planet's x y z alignments of the magnetic field

http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/magnetometer/magchain.cgi

There seems to be a cross over that maybe growing even larger. Even more strange is that they have shut down all the public feeds to the site and that has never happened before. Don't know of any keyhole either.

What do you guys think?

[img.] http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/magnetometer/magchain.cgi [img.]

Et in Arcadia ego

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Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:39 pm

"no data avilable"

Sounds familiar. I run across that all the time when I monitor the ambient air reports for Georgia.

http://www.air.dnr.state.ga.us/amp/index.php
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BigJoe

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Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:24 pm

Up to the year 2002 it was quite easy to observe the chemtrails and aerosol operations on the local satellite images that were being broadcast by our local TV forecasters over cable and the air waves. Then sometime around the summer of 2002, ALL three of our network affiliates, along with our local cable news station, almost on the same day, drastically reduced the resolution on their local TV satellite images to the point where it was impossible to view the spraying operations. And I'm noticing they've done this in other areas also.

I think the next step will be the blacking out of ALL the public satellite feeds that are now available to us on the internet, most likely for "national security reasons".

Here is a very sobering article posted by Lou Aubuchont several months ago that directly addresses this issue...

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread8384.html

"...a vast amount of federal weather data would be forced offline."

"The National Weather Service Web site would have to go away," Bradner said. "What would be permitted under this bill is not clear — it doesn't say..."

Feds' weather information could go dark
By Robert P. King

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Thursday, April 21, 2005

Do you want a seven-day weather forecast for your ZIP code? Or hour-by-hour predictions of the temperature, wind speed, humidity and chance of rain? Or weather data beamed to your cellphone?

That information is available for free from the National Weather Service But under a bill pending in the U.S. Senate, it might all disappear.

The bill, introduced last week by Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., would prohibit federal meteorologists from competing with companies such as AccuWeather and The Weather Channel, which offer their own forecasts through paid services and free ad-supported Web sites.

Supporters say the bill wouldn't hamper the weather service or the National Hurricane Center from alerting the public to hazards — in fact, it exempts forecasts meant to protect "life and property."

But critics say the bill's wording is so vague they can't tell exactly what it would ban.

"I believe I've paid for that data once. ... I don't want to have to pay for it again," said Scott Bradner, a technical consultant at Harvard University.

He says that as he reads the bill, a vast amount of federal weather data would be forced offline.

"The National Weather Service Web site would have to go away," Bradner said. "What would be permitted under this bill is not clear — it doesn't say. Even including hurricanes."

Nelson questions intention

The decision of what information to remove would be up to Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez — possibly followed, in the event of legal challenges, by a federal judge.

A spokesman for Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., said the bill threatens to push the weather service back to a "pre-Internet era" — a questionable move in light of the four hurricanes that struck the state last year. Nelson serves on the Senate Commerce Committee, which has been assigned to consider the bill.

"The weather service proved so instrumental and popular and helpful in the wake of the hurricanes. How can you make an argument that we should pull it off the Net now?" said Nelson's spokesman, Dan McLaughlin. "What are you going to do, charge hurricane victims to go online, or give them a pop-up ad?"

But Barry Myers, AccuWeather's executive vice president, said the bill would improve public safety by making the weather service devote its efforts to hurricanes, tsunamis and other dangers, rather than duplicating products already available from the private sector.

"The National Weather Service has not focused on what its core mission should be, which is protecting other people's lives and property," said Myers, whose company is based in State College, Pa. Instead, he said, "It spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year, every day, producing forecasts of 'warm and sunny.'"

Santorum made similar arguments April 14 when introducing his bill. He also said expanded federal services threaten the livelihoods of private weather companies.

"It is not an easy prospect for a business to attract advertisers, subscribers or investors when the government is providing similar products and services for free," Santorum said.

AccuWeather has been an especially vocal critic of the weather service and its parent agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The company has accused the federal agencies of withholding data on hurricanes and other hazards, and failing to ensure that employees don't feed upcoming forecasts to favored investors in farming and energy markets.

Weather service expands data

The rivalry intensified last year, when NOAA shelved a 1991 policy that had barred the weather agency from offering services that private industry could provide.

Also last year, the weather service began offering much of its raw data on the Internet in an easily digestible format, allowing entrepreneurs and hobbyists to write simple programs to retrieve the information. At the same time, the weather service's own Web pages have become increasingly sophisticated.

Combined, the trends threaten AccuWeather's business of providing detailed weather reports based on an array of government and private data. AccuWeather's 15,000 customers include The Palm Beach Post, which uses the company's hurricane forecast maps on its Web site, PalmBeachPost.com.

NOAA has taken no position on the bill. But Ed Johnson, the weather service's director of strategic planning and policy, said his agency is expanding its online offerings to serve the public.

"If someone claims that our core mission is just warning the public of hazardous conditions, that's really impossible unless we forecast the weather all the time," Johnson said. "You don't just plug in your clock when you want to know what time it is."

Myers argued that nearly all consumers get their weather information for free through commercial providers, including the news media, so there's little reason for the federal agency to duplicate their efforts.

"Do you really need that from the NOAA Web site?" he asked.

But some weather fans, such as Bradner, say they prefer the federal site's ad-free format.

Another supporter of the weather service's efforts, Tallahassee database analyst John Simpson, said the plethora of free data becoming available could eventually fuel a new industry of small and emerging companies that would repackage the information for public consumption. He said a similar explosion occurred in the 1990s, when corporations' federal securities filings became freely available on the Web.

Shutting off the information flow would stifle that innovation and solidify the major weather companies' hold on the market, Simpson said.

Santorum's bill also would require the weather service to provide "simultaneous and equal access" to its information.

That would prevent weather service employees from favoring some news outlets over others, which Santorum and Myers said has happened in some markets. But it also could end the common practice of giving one-on-one interviews to individual reporters who have questions about storms, droughts or other weather patterns.

"What we want is to make sure that whatever information is provided to one source is provided to all," Myers said.

But Johnson said it's importanst to answer reporters' questions so the public receives accurate information — especially when lives are at stake.

"We are not interested in turning off our telephones," Johnson said. "I would be concerned that that would actually be dangerous."
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