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Is the real reason being given for the firing of Four-Star General Byrnes?

Notice that his command is headquartered at Fort Monroe, Virginia -- YES...the very Fort Monroe where the much-discussed nuclear attack "exercise" is being run from *right now*, this very month of August 2005.

Is that part of the equation somehow?

As a hypothetical scenario, was/is something being done that General Byrnes disapproved of, and has someone maneuvered him out of the picture to get someone more accomodating and tractable into Fort Monroe?

Or, is there another factor? Was it - hypothetically - perhaps the other way around instead? Great intrigue centers on Fort Monroe right now in the month of August -- exactly what is happening there? Is the truth being covered up?

Four-Star Army general Sacked At Fort Monroe, Virginia http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/09/general.relieved.ap/index.html

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our Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror attack

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005

The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.

Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.

Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.

Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.

Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.

They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.

This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.

"Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.

Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.

Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.

Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.

Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent.

Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack, as it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and shouldn't be viewed as speculation.

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Originally posted by KNOW-THIS
Art imitates life, or life imitates art?

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Originally posted by soulcore
1995?!

That is jsut plain f@#$% creepy yo.

Especially, the "terrist' nuke" and "pentagon" cards...

Crazy man ... seriosuly, WTF?!

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Originally posted by soulcore
1995?!

That is jsut plain f@#$% creepy yo.

Especially, the "terrist' nuke" and "pentagon" cards...

Crazy man ... seriosuly, WTF?!

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I have often wondered why people in the military have not risen up and pulled off a coup against the Straussian neocon warmonger faction in the Pentagon. It’s said the brass in the U.S. military does not want to jeopardize their careers and pensions—in other words, we are expected to believe everybody in the military without exception is a self-seeking careerist unable to realize that the neocon vision will result in a situation where a career and pension will be meaningless (a post-nuclear war retirement is untenable). Well, if reports are correct, one soldier, the head of Fort Monroe’s Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired for standing up to the neocons, although the corporate media insists he was dismissed for “sexual misconduct.”

Others, however, insist Byrnes was fired for organizing against the neocon warmongers. “According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict,” write Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones. I am reminded of Smedley Darlington Butler, the most decorated marine in U.S. history, who told the Congress in 1933 that a failed coup had been plotted by plutocratic industrialists to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Butler was an outspoken critic of war profiteering (see War is a Racket) and what he saw as creeping fascism in the United States.

I sincerely doubt Byrnes is another Butler. However, if he was indeed the leader of a faction opposed to the Straussian-Machiavellian neocons, who want to nuke Iran (and possibly a city in America—under cover of a JTF-CS exercise—as a pretext to start their version of the 30 Years’ War), we can hold out at least a modicum of hope in the realization that the military does not consist solely of self-seekers and warmongering psychopaths.

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WayneMadsenReport.com
August 10, 2005

There's much more to this story than a "sexual indiscretion." The sudden firing of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine (TRADOC) Commander, four star General and New York City native Kevin P. Byrnes, one of only 11 four star generals in the Army, has much more to do with a policy dispute than an anonymous Pentagon-reported story about an alleged "extra-marital affair."

Although Byrnes has recently been involved in divorce proceedings, Pentagon insiders report that Byrnes was fired for insubordination. Byrnes' firing fits a pattern of neocon demonizing of policy opponents by tossing out unsubstantiated charges from "anonymous source." For example, when Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski was demoted to Colonel over trumped up charges over her role as commander of Iraqi prisons during the time of the prisoner abuse (and after she revealed the presence of Israeli interrogators in Iraqi prisons), the Pentagon spin machine, joined at the hips with neo-con think thanks and media outlets in Washington, cited a dated and totally unsubstantiated shoplifting accusation against her.

Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker, who Donald Rumsfeld hauled out of retirement to head up the Army after Gen. Eric Shinseki was fired and after no other active duty general wanted the job, relieved Byrnes of his command at Fort Monroe, Virginia. Byrnes had previous run-ins with the neo-cons in the Pentagon. In 2002, Byrnes was faced with being retired at Lt. Gen. after he clashed with then-Rumsfeld aide Stephen Cambone over proposed troop strength cuts. Then Army Secretary Thomas White, intervened on behalf of Byrnes and he received his fourth star. White was later fired by the Pentagon neo-cons.

What has not been reported is that recently, one of Byrnes' subordinate commands, Fort Rucker in Alabama, had been told to stand by for an influx of 50,000 military trainees -- a level the base has not seen since the Vietnam War. Byrnes' relief of command came on the heels of the Pentagon announcing that it might permit Spanish-language entrance examinations. Byrnes, who was in charge of Army training, would not only face recruits with lower education levels and past criminal records, but a lack of proficiency in English. Pentagon insiders report that it was Byrnes' policy disagreements with the Pentagon neo-cons over the new recruitment policies and the potential for calling up Army retirees and reinstating military conscription without adequate TRADOC funding that resulted in his firing. The personal misconduct charges were concocted by the Pentagon to cover up the fact that there are serious disagreements with Bush and Rumsfeld among the flag officer ranks in the military.

Byrnes was also associated with a group of officers who spent time at the U.S. Army War College at Carlisle Barracks in Pennsylvania. The Army War College has been a center of opposition to the war in Iraq and it is believed that Byrnes was recognized by the neo-cons as one of the unofficial leaders of a group of Army flag rank opponents of Bush's war in Iraq and potential military action against Iran.

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News is flying in regard to the nuclear terror drill set for this month. It is feared by informed researchers that an actual nuclear detonation may be piggybacked on the drill, as was the modus operandi in the 9/11 and 7/7 inside jobs.

As reported at this site, the drill involving a nuclear warhead being smuggled into Charleston, South Carolina is to involve the Atlanta-area FEMA office and be run out of Fort Monroe, Virginia. Today, the four-star general in charge of Fort Monroe was fired. Anonymously-sourced and speculative reports on the leading alternative media websites posited General Kevin Byrnes was fired for attempting to prevent the drill from going live. (See Lehrman/Physics911.net, Szymanski/Arctic Beacon, Jones,Watson/PrisonPlanet, Skolnick/Cloak‡.

Now a Washington Times report, also anonymously-sourced, highlights the flimsy basis on which he was fired -- adultery. Not the Jeff Gannon kind of military adultery popular in the White House; but involvement, while separated from his wife, with a woman in a separate command. It also turns out Rumsfeld tried to chase him out the military three years ago. Looks like he finally found a pretext.

From WashTimes August 10 :

An official announcement yesterday did not specify why Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes, 52, was removed from his command of all soldier training and doctrine development, but two retired Army officers said it was for having an extramarital affair.

Adultery is illegal in the military, constituting conduct unbecoming an officer. The sources said they think the woman was not a subordinate of Gen. Byrnes at U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command, Fort Monroe, Va.

It is rare in modern times for the Army to relieve a four-star general. ...

Gen. Byrnes, one of 11 four-star Army generals, was nearing the end of a three-year term at U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command when Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, relieved him of command yesterday.

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Gen. Byrnes had been under investigation for some time and had been in the throes of a divorce.

A number of officers went to bat [for Byrnes] in 2002 when Mr. Rumsfeld threatened to end his career at lieutenant general.

Mr. Rumsfeld was upset at Gen. Byrnes for fighting proposed troop cuts being outlined by the defense secretary's aide, Stephen Cambone.

Then-Army Secretary Thomas White and top generals interceded and convinced Mr. Rumsfeld to keep him. Shortly thereafter, Gen. Byrnes won nomination to a fourth star and the TRADOC command...

And, like the sevaeral drill occuring on 9/11, the Fort Monroe Casemate for August 5 reports a series of terror drills at the base on August 17.:

An antiterrorism exercise to test the effectiveness of installation plans and procedures in response to a terrorist attack will take place here Aug. 17.

A series of live emergency response drills are scheduled throughout the day, according to Bill Moisant, Fort Monroe’s antiterrorism officer. ...

Impacts could include extremely thorough security checks at gates, restricted movement near emergency response drill sites and temporary closure of some customer service activities.

Moisant explained that the Fort Monroe Crisis Action Team, first responders, supporting agencies, and assigned and tenant organizations will be evaluated on their ability to respond to a simulated terrorist incident. He said the exercise could involve City of Hampton police and fire officials, as well as other off-post agencies.[,..]

Exact times and locations of exercise site events are not indicated due to OPSEC requirements. Cooperation by personnel and agencies affected by the exercise is greatly appreciated.

The exercise is not open to the general public or local news media.

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Charleston Post and Courier mangles nuke-drill facts

Total Information Analysis | August 16 2005

An interesting item was posted today on Charleston.net, the associated website of the major daily paper Charleston Post-Courier. If you haven't read it yet, check out this site's Key General fired as nuke terror drill set for Aug 17 for background. Here's some of the pertinent excerpts and attendant analysis of the Post-Courier's online item:

Still, this chatter has stirred up folks all over the Lowcountry, worried that nuclear fallout could seriously ruin their weekend. Officials with Charleston County, the state's emergency management personnel and even the Department of Defense have gotten worried calls from folks scanning the skies for mushroom clouds over Fort Sumter.

Trouble is, as with most conspiracy theories, the facts often get in the way.

Locals officials say no drills are planned this week, and the state Ports Authority says no plans have been made to detonate any nuclear weapons in the harbor.

Hmm. Local officials don't know of any drills, but the state Port Authority just says they haven't been told a nuke is going to go off. No, really?!!

"We're not aware of that," Port spokesman Byron Miller said.

The rumors began with a Northern Command press release about a terrorism training exercise that began: "Here's the scenario ... A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off and detonate it."

If this sounds familiar, perhaps you remember "Special Bulletin," a 1983 movie with roughly the same plot and set in Charleston. Perhaps the terrorists don't have a manual, just cable television.

One Web site says the idea is that the exercise was intended to "go live" and be used for cover for a real attack. For proof, they say terrorism drills were planned in the United States on 9/11 and in London on 7/7.

"They say"?! First off, this isn't just something "they say." This can be easily verified after a few minutes on google. The reporter doesn't say which website he's referring to -- most sites have just said there is a great danger that the attack could, or could have been intended to, go live.

Problem is, the terrorism drill, which will focus on bad guys getting nukes, will take place this week at Fort Monroe in Hampton Roads, Va. -- about 400 miles up the coast. Charleston was apparently mentioned on a lark.

If Charleston was chosen as "a lark," why did the NORTHCOMM press release say that Federal Emergency Management Authority (FEMA) Region IV would be invited to participate in the drill? Region IV pointedly does not encompass Virginia, where Ft. Monroe is, but does include South Carolina (along with Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, and Tennessee).

The organization charged with homeland defense has no plans to stage a drill in the Lowcountry.

Did the Post-Courier check with FEMA about any planned exercises? NORTHCOMM also announced they'd be inviting South Carolina Emergency Management Division to play as well. There are no denials from those folks in this piece, either.

"We have no planned exercises in Charleston," said Lt. Jody Vazquez with the Northern Command.

What about exercises "off the port of Charleston"? That's what the NORTHCOMM release said the drill was about. Not "in Charleston."

[...]As is often the case in the world of conspiracy theories, nothing is ever simple. The story, as reported on Internet sites such as prisonplanet.com and total911.info, says that the recent firing of a four-star general, ostensibly for sexual misconduct, was actually an attempt to thwart a military uprising against "neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict." The general, Kevin P. Byrnes, was head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command. And, according to these Internet sites, Byrnes was leading an insurgency bent on stopping the United States from escalating global conflict.

This is rather odd that www.total911.info has not reported on Gen. Byrnes at all, but sister site www.total411.info has. Both sites ran an early story about the NORTHCOMM drill on July 27, though. That piece urged folks to call Ft. Monroe and ask questions. Byrnes was fired from his position 14 days later. Perhaps the reporter is a fan of both sites and got confused?

[...]Other details, such as why Iran would blow up Charleston, are not explained in these theories.

Wha-huh? Clearly, every site that has discussed this issue has said that the danger is factions inside the U.S. government blowing something up, not Iran.

Can the reporter really be this semi-literate? Perhaps not, and an editor insisted or insinuated that the story had to be this juvenile (some elided passages are even worse) or else it wouldn't be run at all.

Regardless, hopefully enough noise has been made about this that anything sinister planned will not have a chance to go down

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Final push to stop the nukes of August

Total Information Analysis | August 16 2005

With coverage all over the Internet and in other media from Coast to Coast AM to the Charleston Post and Courier, there's a good chance that if any nuclear drills in August were scheduled to "go live," the idea has been shelved by now.

However, there is no underestimating the mania of the New World Order when it's cornered. A final push should be made Tuesday to make sure that as many people as possible know, and know that Americans know, that there is a real danger a nuclear terror drill could "go live" as soons as Wednesday, August 17.

What everyone should do is read "Key General fired as nuke terror drill set for Aug 17" and all the pages linked from that item as well. With that sufficient background, folks should call the following places and somewhat calmly, yet urgently, state that on both 9/11 and 7/7, "drills" mimicking the actual attacks were ongoing, which enabled an actual attack to "go live" amidst the confusion. Tell whoever you're talking to that they should be aware another "inside job" is possible, particularly with the strange firing of Rumsfeld opponent Gen. Byrnes earlier this month.

Now, all this may be going overboard, but better safe than sorry. So consider calling the following people Tuesday, August 16:


Your Congressman and Senators. All are home for recess right now, so try their local offices. The switchboard for their offices in the Capitol are (202) 224-3121.

White House: 202-456-2421

FEMA Region IV (Atlanta): 770-220-5200, (770) 220-5224, and (770) 220-5225.

Atlanta Journal-Constitution -- ask if they're looking into the local FEMA office's role: 404-526-5342 or 1-800-756-2489

South Carolina Emergency Management Division: 803-737-8500

Charleston Post-Courier 843-937-5561

Charleston television: WCBD 2 -- 1-843-884-2288 ; WCIV 4 -- (843) 723-4403 ; WCSC 5 (843) 402-5555

North Carolina Emergency Management (919)733-3825 ("Mid-August" terror dril schedulded over several days)

Joint Task Force Civil Support at Ft. Monroe at 757-788-6259

United States Marine Corps' Chemical Biological Incident Response Force: (301)744-2038 ; (301)744-2027 ; (301)744-2069

NORTHCOMM: 719-554-4652

Pentagon: 703/545-6700

C-SPAN Washington Journal: 202-624-1111; 202-624-1115; 202-737-6734

Lush Limbaugh: 1-800-282-2882

Any radio talk show, no matter what political persuasion. Air America's number is 1-866-303-2270

Local print media -- ask them why they aren't running a story on this.

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New nuke-terror general was point man in Abu Gharib cover-up

Total Information Analysis | August 16 2005

Gen. Anthony R. Jones, who has taken over for the suddenly-fired general about to oversee a major nuclear terror exercise off the Atlantic coast, was a key figure in covering up the extent of the abuse by the U.S. military at Abu Gharib prison in Iraq. Jones was inserted into the middle of an ongoing investigation to make sure that no one above one Army unit was found guilty.

SourceWatch August 25, 2004:
"Generals George R. Fay and Anthony R. Jones release a final report describing the findings of their combined investigation of the abuses committed by US soldiers against detainees being held at Abu Ghraib. The investigation was initially ordered by Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, commander of CJTF-7, who charged Fay with determining whether the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade 'requested, encouraged, condoned, or solicited Military Police (MP) personnel to abuse detainees and whether MI [military intelligence] personnel comported with established interrogation procedures and applicable laws and regulations.' Lt. Gen. Anthony R. Jones joined the investigation in June [2004] and was instructed to determine if 'organizations or personnel higher' than the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade chain of command were involved in the Abu Ghraib abuses." [LINK]

"Jones portrays the abuse as being only coincidentally linked to interrogations. 'Most, though not all, of the violent or sexual abuses occurred separately from scheduled interrogations and did not focus on persons held for intelligence purposes.' ..."

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