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The H5N1 bird flu thread PostWed Aug 31, 2005 5:46 pm  Reply with quote  

Please deposit relevant links here to help create a monitor for this situation.

I'll go first:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/08/31/europe.birdflu.ap/index.html

This article does not appear to say anything new whatsoever, yet it's up on CNN's site..

Why?

Fearmongering, or a geniune threat?
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PostWed Aug 31, 2005 5:49 pm  Reply with quote  

This one caught me off guard:

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/02210501/Media_Transmission_Myth_H5N1.html

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So far, 45 people from Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia have died from the H5N1 strain of the virus, though all but one case is believed to have been transmitted through contact with sick birds. <<

The myth listed above is perpetuated almost daily in the media, because WHO has not come out with a clear statement of human-to-human transmission on H5N1 avian influenza. Although evidence for efficient human-to-human transmission via casual contact is lacking, the evidence for human-to-human transmission from patient to care giving relative is overwhelming. The WHO has acknowledged that such transmissions are possible or probable, with the caveat that the transmission chain is short, but they have not issued a general warning on transmission of H5N1 from patient to caregiver. Proper precautions are effective. There have been no documented cases of transmission of the current H5N1 to health care workers, demonstrating that universal precautions do limit transmission. However, relatives visiting or caring for patients at home are unaware of the risks. Transmission from patient to relative is all too common and tragic, since most of the transmissions are fatal and easily avoided.

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Re: The H5N1 bird flu thread PostFri Sep 30, 2005 10:34 pm  Reply with quote  

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Originally posted by Et in Arcadia ego
Fearmongering, or a geniune threat?


I'd say fear mongering. The flu might not harm you but I got a feeling that the vaccine might.

Bird flu 'could kill 150 million'

From: Reuters By Irwin Arieff in New York
September 30, 2005

A GLOBAL flu pandemic could kill as many as 150 million people if the world fails to prepare for an expected mutation of the bird flu virus enabling it to spread from human to human, the United Nations said.

Dr. David Nabarro of the Geneva-based World Health Organisation said UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan has asked him to head up a worldwide drive to contain the current bird flu pandemic and prepare for its possible jump to humans.

If the virus spreads among humans, the quality of the world response will determine whether it ends up killing 5 million or as many as 150 million, Dr Nabarro said...



This part bothers me. Confused


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US President George W. Bush unveiled a plan at the UN this month under which global resources and expertise would be pooled to fight bird flu, and Washington is hosting a two-day planning meeting starting on October 7th.

Canada is hosting an Oct. 25-26 meeting of high-level officials in Ottawa, and the World Health Organisation has called for a Nov. 7-8 meeting in Geneva to coordinate funding.


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16769376-2,00.html

WHO Tries to Calm Bird Flu Fears

GENEVA Sep 30, 2005 — The World Health Organization moved Friday to dampen fears over alarming predictions quoted by one of its own officials that a pandemic stemming from the bird flu virus ravaging parts of Asia could kill as many as 150 million people...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=1173345
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PostFri Sep 30, 2005 10:38 pm  Reply with quote  

Avian influenza – situation in Indonesia – update 32

29 September 2005

The Ministry of Health in Indonesia has today confirmed another fatal human case of H5N1 avian influenza. The patient, a 27-year-old woman from Jakarta, developed symptoms on 17 September, was hospitalized on 19 September, and died on 26 September.

Confirmatory testing was conducted at a WHO reference laboratory in Hong Kong.

Initial investigation has revealed that the woman had direct contact with diseased and dying chickens in her household shortly before the onset of illness.

The woman is the fourth laboratory-confirmed case of H5N1 infection in Indonesia. Three of these cases were fatal.

As a result of intensified surveillance and heightened public concern, growing numbers of people with respiratory symptoms or possible exposure to the virus are being admitted to hospital for observation and, when appropriate, treatment. Until a conclusive diagnosis is made, these patients are classified by the Ministry of Health as suspect cases. While many do not have symptoms compatible with a diagnosis of H5N1 infection, screening of patient samples is being undertaken in national laboratories as part of efforts to ensure that no new cases are missed.

Laboratory testing to confirm human infection with H5N1 avian influenza is technically difficult; some tests produce inconclusive or unreliable results. To ensure a reliable assessment of the situation in Indonesia, authorities are, after initial screening, continuing to send samples from people considered likely to have H5N1 infection to WHO reference laboratories for diagnostic confirmation.

According to FAO, highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza is now endemic in poultry in many parts of Indonesia. As influenza virus activity in Indonesia may increase during the wet season, from November to April, human exposure to animal virus could be greater during the coming months. Further sporadic human cases can be anticipated.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2005_09_29/en/index.html
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PostFri Sep 30, 2005 10:54 pm  Reply with quote  

This is interesting... Confused Only one drug available and not enough to use in the case of an epidemic... and one that the bird flu is supposedly already resistant to.

Bird Flu: The Perils of Relying on a Single Drug

As governments stockpile Tamiflu, TIME's Christine Gorman notes that it may be no match for the virus

By CHRISTINE GORMAN/NEW YORK

Posted Friday, Sep. 30, 2005

If, like public health authorities in the U.S. and many other countries, you're counting on the anti-viral drug Tamiflu (generic name oseltamivir) to save you should bird flu become pandemic, you may have to think again. A Hong Kong expert told Reuters on Friday that a strain of the H5N1 virus isolated in northern Vietnam this year is resistant to Tamiflu. More common human flu viruses have also recently been shown to be developing a resistance to another set of antivirals called adamantine drugs.

If the Vietnam report proves true, the implications will be particularly worrisome for public health programs to combat bird flu: Many governments have made stockpiling Tamiflu the centerpiece of their planning for a possible pandemic. U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt wants to create a big enough stockpile to treat 20 million Americans, and about $3 billion of the $4 billion the U.S. Senate last week proposed allocating to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to prepare for bird flu is to be used to buy Tamiflu. Never mind the fact that Tamiflu is produced in only one facility in the world, which is unlikely to produce enough to fill everyone's stockpile for several more years...

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1112289,00.html
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PostFri Sep 30, 2005 11:01 pm  Reply with quote  


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Tamiflu is produced in only one facility in the world


Roche Pharmaceuticals


342033 7/12/2003 USA TAMIFLU Capsules 75 mg
343226 7/12/2003 USA TAMIFLU Oral Suspension

http://www.rocheusa.com/programs/msds/msds.asp?product=Tamiflu

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PostFri Sep 30, 2005 11:14 pm  Reply with quote  

Experts in Hong Kong said on Friday that the human H5N1 strain which surfaced in northern Vietnam this year had proved to be resistant to Tamiflu, a powerful antiviral drug which goes by the generic name, oseltamivir.

They urged drug manufacturers to make more effective versions of Relenza, another antiviral that is also known to be effective in battling the much feared H5N1. Relenza is inhaled.

"There are now resistant H5N1 strains appearing, and we can't totally rely on one drug (Tamiflu)," William Chui, honorary associate professor with the department of pharmacology at the Queen Mary Hospital in Hong Kong, told Reuters.

Chui was referring to the Tamiflu-resistant strain of H5N1 in Vietnam. Chui also said general viral resistance to Tamiflu was growing in Japan, where doctors habitually prescribe the drug to fight the common influenza.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/09/30/birdflu.drugs.reut/index.html
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PostMon Oct 03, 2005 3:13 pm  Reply with quote  

Try reading what Nabarro said out loud 5 times fast... or even once for that matter... Confused


New UN pandemic czar warns flu could alter world

Canadian Press

TORONTO - A flu pandemic could fundamentally alter the world as we know it, warns the public health veteran charged with co-ordinating UN planning for and response to the threat.

Inadequate - and inequitably shared - global resources and the uncertainties inherent in trying to predict the behaviour of influenza combine to create planning dilemmas that are "monster difficult," Dr. David Nabarro said in an interview describing his new job and the challenges ahead.

Progress will demand appealing "to people's recognition that we're dealing here with world survival issues - or the survival of the world as we know it," Nabarro explains.

"And therefore we just can't go on approaching it with sort of business-as-usual type approaches."...



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"Governments have realized that this is something to be worried about," he says, adding the UN must harness that concern and the resources it frees up.

"It's a rare thing, political commitment to deal with a health issue. And when you've got it, you must use it well," he insists.

"We're not going to have such an excellent window of opportunity to really start moving forward with this for long. And so we must take advantage of it now."


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051003/flu_pandemic_051003/20051003?hub=Health

Confused

U.S. is not prepared for pandemic flu

As reported by Brian Ross, ABC News chief investigative correspondent, on Sept. 15, the wealthiest nations are preparing for the threat of avian influenza (bird flu) by stockpiling Tamiflu, the only known medicine to treat the illness.

The U.S. currently has 2.5 million doses and an objective of 20 million doses for a country with a population close to 300 million. The United Kingdom has ordered 14.5 million doses to treat a quarter of its population, as the World Health Organization recommends in its strategic actions recommendations at www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza

The manufacturer of Tamiflu (Roche) has a high demand for the drug and is using a waiting list for production and distribution. The U.S. did not place its order for Tamiflu early and is not at the top of the list.

This is another case of the government not preparing adequately for the protection of its citizenry. The U.S. should raise its objective and stockpile enough doses of the drug to treat one-quarter of the population, as recommended by the WHO. Taxpayers' dollars should be directed toward protection of human health and life for U.S. citizens.

For more information about the potential avian flu world pandemic, visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Web site at www.cdc.gov/flu/avian.

Valerie Duhl

Bradenton

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051003/OPINION/510030347/1029
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PostMon Oct 03, 2005 3:19 pm  Reply with quote  

Published on : Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:05
By : Andrew Stead

LONDON – UK's top medical officer has issued a stern warning that the bird flu pandemic could has the potential to ravage Britain and kill as many as 50,000 people.

Sir Liam Donaldson, the Chief Medical Officer for England said today that the impact of such a pandemic would be devastating, "It’s inevitable that when the flu pandemic comes, and we don’t know whether that will be next winter or even in five or 10 years’ time, that it will have a very serious impact on the health of our country. That’s a biological inevitability," he said. He dodged questions as to whether Britain was ready to cope with a flu pandemic of such proportions and only said that the government’s contingency plans estimated that 50,000 lives would be lost in the UK...
http://www.abcmoney.co.uk/news/0120051035.htm

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Monday October 3, 3:29 PM

Australia's Biota Surges on Bird Flu Pandemic Fears

MELBOURNE (Dow Jones)--Fears of a bird flu pandemic sent shares of Australian biotechnology company Biota Ltd. (BTA.AU) soaring 44% Monday as traders bet on growing sales of its anti-flu drug Relenza amid news the U.S. will stockpile a competitor.

Last week, a top U.N. public health expert said a new influenza pandemic could come at any time and kill up to 150 million people. The warning came the same day the U.S. Senate voted to provide US$3 billion to stockpile the anti-flu drug Tamiflu in an overall medical package worth US$4 billion.

Relenza, a competitor of Tamiflu, was developed by Biota, which licensed it to GlaxoSmithKline PLC (GSK) and gets a 7% royalty on sales.

"There is a lot of speculation and concern about a bird flu pandemic, which is driving Biota higher," said Darren Grubb, an analyst at Intersuisse in Melbourne.

"Tamiflu is particularly hard to manufacture and is coming in short supply - Relenza is the next drug that is going to be stockpiled because of Tamiflu's scarcity."

Grubb said there have been reports that GlaxoSmithKline will boost production from about 1 million units of Relenza to about 40 million units, which "would provide a substantial amount of potential royalty coming back to Biota."

David Nabarro, of the U.N. and World Health Organization, said Thursday that another influenza pandemic was almost certain and that the "range of deaths could be anywhere between 5 and 150 million."

Nabarro has been asked by U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan to take leave from his current post as WHO executive director for sustainable development and health environments to become the U.N. coordinator for avian and human influenza.

The U.S. Senate voted Thursday to provide US$4 billion to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to stockpile anti-flu medicine and prepare for a potential outbreak. On Friday, Malaysia said it also plans to stock up on anti-flu drugs.

While purchases by the U.S. and Malaysia will mainly be of Tamiflu, governments are also stocking up on Relenza. On Sept. 16 the U.S. said it will spend US$2.8 million on 84,300 treatments of Relenza, adding to an order by Germany on Aug. 15 to buy 1.7 million packs of the drug. On Sept. 12 Biota said it was aware of media reports the Netherlands had ordered Relenza but didn't know the size of the order.

The H5N1 strain of bird flu has swept through poultry populations in Asia since 2003, infecting humans and killing at least 65 people, mostly poultry workers, and resulting in the culling of tens of millions of birds.

When asked Monday to explain its rapid share price rise by the Australian Stock Exchange, Biota said it wasn't aware of any information which hasn't been announced.

"We believe that the increased trading volume and significant price appreciation can best be explained by speculation about the company's improved prospects in the light of the bird flu threat and the potential for increased sales and royalties from Relenza," Chief Executive Peter Molloy said in a statement.

Biota shares rocketed 59.5 cents to A$1.935 on the Australian Stock Exchange, the highest level since April 2001, giving the company a market capitalization of A$264.9 million. On Friday, the shares closed up 27 cents at A$1.34 with a market capitalization of A$183.4 million.

Intersuisse's Grubb said there is a lot of uncertainty as to Biota's potential value, which has helped drive the stock higher on speculation. Grubb rated the stock a speculative buy before the share price gains of the past two trading days.

Biota is suing GlaxoSmithKline for allegedly failing to promote and support Relenza after the drug's launch and is seeking damages of up to A$430 million.

Biota has said the claim is provisional and may increase, especially if the market continues to grow at its current rate. The case is scheduled for mediation in November.

http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/051003/15/3vdkx.html
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PostMon Oct 03, 2005 3:20 pm  Reply with quote  

This whole thing stinks to high heaven..You have source A saying that Tamiflu is the only blah, blah, and source B says the stuff DOES NOT WORK..

Meanwhile someone's making a $#@#! of money, and no one on the outside's any closer to determining what/if the threat is real or not.

It reeks of SARS v2, but I still can't determine whether the disease itself or it's vaccine is more dangerous. And now they're talking about using a second inhalable vaccine modified to injection delivery..
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PostMon Oct 03, 2005 3:43 pm  Reply with quote  

I decided to do some checking into any problems that Relenza might cause... I'd say that the vaccine might just be as harmful if not more harmful than the flu itself. The more I look into it, the more it looks like another repackaging of SARS...

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Old Information from 2000...



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The new flu drug Relenza is now the subject of a warning letter to medical professionals around the country that urges caution when the medicine is used in patients with asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

The manufacturer, Glaxo Wellcome Inc., says it has received reports of serious breathing problems in some patients taking Relenza who also have underlying lung disease such as asthma and COPD (e.g., emphysema).

The company declined to give a specific number of deaths related to Relenza because the cases are so complex, but they say severe reactions are "very uncommon."

The warning letter comes out almost exactly one year after the FDA approved Relenza in spite of the negative recommendation from its scientific advisory committee in February 1999.

http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/16/flu_drug.htm

LUNG PROBLEMS CONFIRMED...


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Unfortunately zanamivir has the drawback that it can cause tightness of the tubes in the lungs (bronchospasm) in some patients, and it is not recommended for people with airways disease, eg asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). This therefore excludes quite a high percentage of people that might otherwise have benefited from its use.

http://www.medinfo.co.uk/drugs/zanamivir.html

RELENZA IS CLASSIFIED AS A DEFECTIVE DRUG...


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Relenza is an anti-viral drug for individuals seven years and older intended to treat uncomplicated influenza virus. The FDA advisory committee had voted against the approval of Relenza, however the FDA still allowed Relenza to become available in the U.S. Side effects of Relenza may include sinus infection, dizziness, upset stomach, and diarrhea.

In the event that a Relenza patient experienced difficulty breathing or wheezing this can indicate larger problems. Some Relenza patients have reported experiencing decline in lung function and bronchospasm. Individuals with chronic respiratory disease are advised to avoid Relenza due to the increased risk of side effects.

http://www.adrugrecall.com/relenza/relenza.html

DEFECTIVE DRUGS FYI - Relenza


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Some patients have had bronchospasm (wheezing) or serious breathing problems when they used Relenza®. Many but not all of these patients had previous asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Relenza® has not been shown to shorten the duration of influenza in people with these diseases. Because of the risk of side effects and because it has not been shown to help them, Relenza® is not generally recommended for people with chronic respiratory disease.


http://www.defectivedrugsfyi.com/relenza.html
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PostMon Oct 03, 2005 3:50 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by Dan Rockwell
The more I look into it, the more it looks like another repackaging of SARS...


You and I are in perfect agreement, sir. Whether the disease is tailor-made for the vaccine or vice versa, once again, the real cuprit here appears to be Avarice.
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Avian Flu vs Posse Comitatus:

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/msg89332.html#89332
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Bush plans use of military to ensure an avian flu quarantine PostWed Oct 05, 2005 1:34 am  Reply with quote  

CNN Headline News commented that a reporter had asked Bush how he would handle an avian flu breakout in the U.S. He told them that he would have no problem using the military to ensure a quarantine.

It is my understanding that the Bush gang (and all the other Big Bad Boys & Girls) has attempted several hordendous scenarios to get their martial law plan up and going, but has been stopped in their tracks on several occasions. As all can see, the public warnings, which are preparing the public for a pandemic--any pandemic, have been well underway.
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Scientists re-create deadly pandemic virus
Last Updated Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:46:14 EDT
CBC News

Scientists in the United States say they have re-created the lethal influenza virus that killed 50 million people in 1918 and 1919. And they have concluded that the bug probably originated as an avian bug and then spread to people.

The researchers from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention and Mount Sinai School of Medicine reported their findings Wednesday in the Journals "Nature" and "Science".

The findings may suggest that the threat of an avian flu pandemic is even greater than previously thought.

At least 66 deaths already have been attributed to the so-called "bird flu", a fierce virus that is widespread in poultry and has been turning up in humans in Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia since late 2003.

The growing fear of a flu pandemic led U.S. President George Bush to speculate Tuesday on possible American reactions to such a crisis, including quarantines of infected groups of people.

Jeffrey Taubenberger, the Armed Forces Institute researcher who led one the studies, told The Wall Street Journal that getting to the bottom of the 1918 influenza catastrophe is no longer an academic or historical exercise.

The historical virus, created in a secure CDC lab by one of the research teams, was called "exceptionally virulent".

According to Terence Tumpey, a senior scientist at CDC who led that research team, it quickly killed embryonated chicken eggs and mice.

The team also discovered that the 1918 bug had an unusual ability to penetrate cells deep in the lungs that flu bugs don't normally reach, providing a clue as to why its symptoms were so severe.

Dr. Tumpey said the virus experiments were approved by two CDC committees and conducted under strict safety and security standards.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/10/05/Birdflu20051005.html
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