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ICU812

Joined: 30 Mar 2001
Posts: 103
Location: Edmonton, Canada

Skew-T+Photo+Sat.view Fri Jan 18, 2002 9:48 pm

I may have the interest of a group of Environmental Investigative Journalists.

Everyone's done so much research, I was wondering if I can access a chemtrail "snapshot in time" including ground photo's, Sat. picture and skew T or uppersounding all recorded at the same moment, with dates and times.
Thermit, ms, 3T, Kanuck and others have all spent honourable time in this. A snapshot would, at the very least, spur the 'scientific' interest of investigative journalists.
"Why do 'contrails' battle the laws of physics in the new millenium?".
The only data these three items would not support is aircraft altitude, maybe the additional link would help.
if this has already been done a hundred times, I will do the leg work if you show me the path.

Thermit

Joined: 08 Jul 2000
Posts: 3136
Location: Texas

Fri Jan 18, 2002 9:55 pm

Not quite what you are asking for, but you can pass this along...
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/report.shtml

3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
Posts: 1344
Location: Lubbock, Texas

Fri Jan 18, 2002 10:10 pm

Here you go. I got the temperature and humidity from the ADDS sites, but did not copy the screens. I don't know if GOES archives, Skew-T archives or the new contrail prediction archives go back that far.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000008.html

Scroll to the bottom of the page and look for the post with this image:

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Here's another example of a chemtrail at low humidity. This one was observed at 15:25 CST on 11/18/01 east of Lubbock. I sighted on the top of the segment in the center of the picture. Near elevation was 24.8° and near variance from due east was 6°. I drove 2.78 miles due east. At that point, far elevation was 37° and far variance from due east was 10°.

Using my Excel formulas, the calculated height of the trail above sea level was 20,628 feet. ADDS said that the relative humidity at this altitude and at this time was between 0.2 and 0.3. The temperature at that altitude was between -15 and -25 degrees centigrade.

The trail lasted for about an hour.

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3T3L1

Joined: 08 Mar 2001
Posts: 1344
Location: Lubbock, Texas

Sun Jan 20, 2002 1:02 am

This is the Lubbock weather for that day: http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KLBB/2001/11/18/DailyHistory.html On the following day we had a little bit of rain. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KLBB/2001/11/19/DailyHistory.html

(The previous material was provided to me by Chickiedeb.) Chickiedeb keeps a daily journal of ADDS and weather captures. On it, you can see the GOES-8 IR for 7:15 AM that morning. She also has a forecast picture, showing that a cold front (low) was approaching. The nearest temperature and RH aloft she has is for 28,000 feet. This is the relevant page, and thanks, Deb! http://cdebsjournal.topcities.com/Nov18journal.htm

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ICU812

Joined: 30 Mar 2001
Posts: 103
Location: Edmonton, Canada

Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:50 pm

Thanks all for the replies. I'd guess you know what I'm getting at. If atmospheric conditions don't support 'natural' condensation development from aircraft, then some other 'reaction' is obviously taking place. Databasing and distributing some of the more obvious dates, of atomspheric injections with sat. views and uppersounding charts, just builds the statement of evidence.
Links from your replies and other digging revealed additional information in "determining contrails from chemtrails".
Explanations for understanding charts that report on atmospheric conditions. Skew-T. http://meteora.ucsd.edu/weather/cdf/text/how_to_read_skewt.html

Pull up Skew-T charts near you. http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/upper.html

and of course contrail computation for Skew-T http://www.tpub.com/weather3/6a-26.htm

Additional sat. links. http://orbit-net.nesdis.noaa.gov/arad/fpdt/nwasat.html http://www.awc-kc.noaa.gov/awc/awc-fd.html http://www.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/htmls/satellite.html http://www.goes.noaa.gov/
I can only imagine the work put into composing the report thermit. It continues to encourage alternative areas of research even though it's not the first time I read it.
Onward

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