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PostMon Oct 03, 2005 8:07 am  Reply with quote  

I have more to say about your post Jeanie so you know that I haven't forgotten you. I wanted to get this out though...

UPDATE: 4 Die of Unknown Respiratory Virus


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TORONTO/640 TORONTO - An outbreak of an unknown respiratory illness at a Scarborough nursing home has killed 4 seniors.

68 residence and 5 employees of the 7 Oaks Home for the Aged have been infected with the virus. 15 people remain in 3 different hospitals across the city.

Toronto Public Health has yet to identify the virus but say they are positive it is not SARS or the Avian Bird Flue.

Health officials say at this point there is no evidence to indicate Torontonians outside of the facility are at risk.

The 4 seniors that died already had severe medical conditions and 2 of them were in their 90's.

All hospitals in Toronto are fully operating.


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Very Happy thanks for the kind welcome and yes you and I are seeing much the same skies I am sure.I have some pics I want to post and will get my husband to help me do so soon.
I did want to add that I saw the strangest plane overhead yesterday afternoon,(we saw,as I have my husband looking up now too)YEAH!
Anyways he said it looked like an unmanned type military.Flying fairly low and slightly noisy but a different kind of noise,more like a small propeller type planes sound.
Looked like something from Star Wars,The movie( at least I think the movie)
Just wondering has anyone else seen these types of flyers?
P.s didn't notice anything being emmitted from it.
Also one other question,I have noticed when some jets do spray that there could be a perfectly blue sky to start and as a trail is being left a small cloud will appear below the stream the are leaving,and considerably lower.Then within minutes will look like a puffy small cloud.
I have not seen this until recently.
Thanks again for the welcome and I am glad to be here!!!! Very Happy
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PostTue Oct 04, 2005 6:17 pm  Reply with quote  

I think it's time to start connecting the dots here.

Mysterious Odor in Salem Proves Deadly


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Mysterious Odor in Salem Proves Deadly

New developments have surfaced in the case of the mysterious odor that made residents sick in a Salem apartment building Friday. Authorities have confirmed that one of the residents has died, and they're investigating it as a crime.

The woman was taken to a Sioux Falls hospital Friday after she became ill from the strong odor, and died early Saturday morning. Authorities are not releasing the woman's name until her family is notified.

Authorities say they have identified a substance they think produced the odor, but are waiting for test results to come back as to what that substance is. An entire city block was evacuated Friday after someone reported a strong odor that had made them sick. Four residents were taken to a hospital in Sioux Falls after they were nauseated, and vomiting.

One woman died, and the other three have been released from the hospital. The Salem Police Department is treating the apartment building as a crime scene. Authorities say they have been keeping a close eye on the house, but the public is safe.

"We isolated it and as far as the area there's no real threat to anybody surrounding," says McCook County Emergency Management Director Brad Stiefvater, "we have sealed off the apartments nobody's being allowed there."

One more resident was taken to the hospital Saturday. Authorities aren't releasing that person's condition. Residents in three of the four apartment buildings in the area returned home Friday night, but authorities are keeping people out of the fourth building where the substance was found. Authorities say they don't have any suspects, and the investigation continues.


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Odd Gas, Rot, or Suphur Odors




Southland, CALIFORNIA residents from the coast to the Valley reported a rotting garbage-like odor on 9/20. "It was that sort of weird, clinging cloud-of-garbage-like smell that has come to characterize New York in August." Workplaces and weblogs were buzzing, with descriptions comparing the smell to old socks, rotting cabbage soup, kimchi, moldy wet wallboard and the "dampness of the air interacting with my cat's litter box." Environmentalists speculated that the first heavy rain in weeks had flooded storm drains with debris, oil, animal waste and litter. As the material decomposed, it may have created odors. This could explain why the smell was DETECTED IN SOME AREAS AND NOT OTHERS. "It was like a stew of sulfur, sewage and bad omen." Bacteria levels in the coastal waters — which many storm drains run into — were 10 times the acceptable state levels Tuesday and were expected to be even higher Wednesday. In addition, the red tide of algae bloom in the ocean has been particularly heavy in the last few days, which may be responsible for fishy odors that have wafted to areas within about a quarter-mile of the coast. Reddish by day and glowing green at night, the red tide moves with the currents. "It's patchy throughout the bay, so some areas might be more funky than others." After Tuesday's rains, surfers were describing the shoreline as "one big glowing blob."

In WASHINGTON D.C., unexplained odors were reported all across the district. Between midnight and 1 p.m. WEDNESDAY, firefighters received 36 calls and responded to 11 schools, as well as the fifth and sixth district police stations. What the odor is and where it's coming from remains a mystery. It's possible that storm drains could be to blame, since the lack of rain has kept them from being flushed. Most of the complaints came from Northeast Washington, where the ODOR SEEMED TO COME AND GO FOR NO DISCERNIBLE REASON. There was no consensus on what it smelled like, only that it was nasty. "It smelled like skunk, rotten eggs and sulfur."

State and federal environmental officials are trying to determine the cause of a big stink reported along Lake Erie. Hundreds of residents called authorities or the National Weather Service THURSDAY to report the smell, which has been variously described as like gasoline, natural gas or even decaying garbage and rotten eggs. The smell was strongest yesterday morning when a cold front swept through the area, churning up larger than normal waves from Erie to Dunkirk, NEW YORK. Scientists believe the churning waters may have released some naturally occurring gases that are normally trapped beneath the lake's deeper waters. Decaying plants and fish washed ashore by the waves could also be contributing to the stench. The wave-churning theory makes sense because THE SMELL LESSENED WHEN THE WAVES DIMINISHED. "It's like the lake burped, and then the burp passed by us."

(link currently not working) A strange smell was turning up noses and had people in the Southern Tier, Jamestown, NEW YORK, asking questions THURSDAY afternoon.

A mysterious smell has been lingering around numerous neighborhoods in one local community in OHIO, and now residents want to know where that odor is coming from and if it's dangerous. Neighbors living along Hospital Road in Bellaire describe the smell as putrid. They say THE SMELL HAS BEEN FLOATING INTO THE AREA FOR THE PAST TWO MONTHS. During the day the air smells fine, but at night neighbors say the odor is nauseating. Neighbors say the strong odor will start on various evenings around 9:00 p.m., and linger there sometimes until morning.

A red tide outbreak detected nearly TWO MONTHS AGO along FLORIDA's west coast has reached Panhandle beaches, killing fish and sea turtles and causing respiratory problems for humans. It's the region's worst in seven years. The toxic algae OUTBREAK IS SPOTTY, AFFECTING SOME BEACHES BUT NOT OTHERS. It has turned the normally blue-green Gulf of Mexico a reddish brown. "I thought the water was weird. It looks like river water." Visitors left after less than 30 minutes because their noses started burning and they couldn't stop coughing. The smell also was rancid.

In SINGAPORE, at Marine Terrace, residents were concerned about a strong smell like gas. 'I noticed the smell at about 6pm and thought there was a gas leak in my house. But it wasn't from my house.' Another resident thought it was fogging. The smell lasted until after 9pm. The police said they received 52 calls from Marine Terrace, Chai Chee, Siglap, Bedok Reservoir and the East Coast area. The first call came at 6.30pm. The police, SCDF and Singapore Power officers responded, but no gas leak was detected.

[SITE NOTE - If these odors of gas are related to methane released from the bottom of seabeds, it could be very serious. A sudden, fatal dose of global warming 180 million years ago during the time of the dinosaurs was caused by methane release. Vast amounts of methane gas were released to the atmosphere in three massive ‘methane burps’ or pulses. The addition of methane, a greenhouse gas, to the atmosphere had a severe impact on the environment, warming Earth about 10°C, and resulting in the extinction of a large number of species on land and in the oceans. The methane came from gas hydrate, a frozen mixture of water and methane found in huge quantities on the seabed. This hydrate suddenly melted, allowing the methane to escape.]

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PostTue Oct 04, 2005 6:29 pm  Reply with quote  

This seems to be a national phenomenon? Possibly even global.

County boosts chemical in sewer lines after complaint about odors


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The situation: A Tucson resident complained in August about an overwhelming rotten-egg smell that engulfed her and her daughter as they waited for the bus at North Flowing Wells and West Prince roads. The foul odor is from hydrogen sulfide, which vents from a sewer line running under Prince Road. The waste generates yucky-smelling gas as it travels across Tucson on its way to the Roger Road treatment plant.

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I wonder if any of these other cases have anything to do with subterraneous molten activity surfacing in new areas?



Maybe not molten, but...



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Geologists have now noted that there is a widespread occurrence of a layer of gas hydrate can contain 180 cubic centimeters of methane gas. Geologists have now noted that there is a widespread occurrence of a layer of gas hydrate beneath some hundreds of metres of ocean deposit. [...] It would seem that there is actual potential for release into the atmosphere of large quantities of gas from the ocean floor; all we may need is some tectonic movement as a trigger. [...] [Exodus to Arthur: Catastrophic Encounters With Comets, Mike Baillie, London 1999, p. 150]

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Mysterious illness claims four more lives in Toronto


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An outbreak of a mysterious illness at a nursing home in Toronto claimed four more lives bringing the death total to ten.



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The outbreak is believed to have started September 25, peaking four days later when 20 new cases were reported.

Doctors have ruled out Influenza, avian flu and SARS and say it's possible they may never be able to identify the exact bug that caused the illnesses.


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PostThu Oct 06, 2005 1:23 am  Reply with quote  

obviously it is the bird flu. No one in North America should travel more than 20 miles from home for the next 32 years, and we'll all be OK.
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PostThu Oct 06, 2005 2:22 am  Reply with quote  

Better yet just stay in your basements,And dont forget the plastic and duct tape for your windows,It'll really come in handy this time..(when it muffles your screams of insanity)
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Toronto Mystery Illness Deaths Reach 16

The cause of the outbreak at the Seven Oaks Home for the Aged remains unknown, although officials insisted the illness was winding down and was confined to the nursing home.

Thirty-eight people remained hospitalized with the illness, and officials fear many of them are too frail to fully recover. Another 88 residents, employees and visitors have been affected.

"This is not
SARS," Dr. David McKeown, the city's medical officer of health, said in reference to the devastating epidemic two years ago, which claimed 44 lives in Canada's financial capital and largest city. More than 8,000 people worldwide contracted the illness and 774 people died.

"The outbreak is confined to residents and staff and people closely associated with this one facility, so it's not a general public health risk," he told a news briefing.

All the deaths have been among the mostly frail and elderly residents, he said.

The latest victims were three men, aged 84, 75, 89 and three women aged 96, 92, 85."

Officials have ruled out SARS, avian flu, Legionnaire's disease and influenza A and B.

The rising fatality rate cast an unwelcome spotlight on a city still shaking off the damage from the devastating SARS outbreak in the spring of 2003, which cost the city's economy more than $1 billion.

Ontario Health Minister George Smitherman said there was no evidence to suggest the outbreak had spread beyond Seven Oaks and noted that respiratory illnesses are common among vulnerable groups such as the elderly.
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PostFri Oct 07, 2005 2:02 am  Reply with quote  

More high strangeness to deal with in this case. It seems that there's been a total reversal about the conclusion reached as far as the cause of these fatalities. The media seemed to report a general consensus of the following being exempted as possibilities.



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Officials have ruled out SARS, avian flu, Legionnaire's disease and influenza A and B.



Now the story has changed...

Seniors died of Legionnaires' disease: official


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Legionnaires' disease has been identified as the likely cause of deadly outbreak at Toronto nursing home, health officials say.
Entrance to the Seven Oaks Home for the Aged in Toronto on Wednesday (Getty Images)

Dr. David McKeown, Toronto's medical officer of health, said autopsies done on three of the 16 residents of the Seven Oaks Home for the Aged that have died since September 25th showed the presence of the bacteria that causes Legionnaires'.


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Plane Carrying Viruses Crashes in Canada


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A cargo plane carrying small amounts of flu virus crashed on railway tracks near Winnipeg's city center Thursday, killing the pilot but missing buildings and vehicles, authorities said.



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In its cargo were six vials of virus samples being sent to Thunder Bay for research, Cooper said.

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PostFri Oct 07, 2005 7:44 pm  Reply with quote  

Something's going one here...

Thu 29 Sep 2005

Outbreak of Legionnaire's shuts food factory

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ONE of Scotland's biggest food processing factories was closed as a precautionary measure yesterday after two employees were struck down by Legionnaire's disease, in an outbreak of the potentially fatal disease in the North-east of Scotland.

The two employees at the giant Baxters plant in Moray - a man and a woman - were being treated in the intensive care unit at Aberdeen Royal Infirmary. Their condition was not given...
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=2009742005

Seems odd that they immediately identified legionnaire's as the culprit in Scotland but had so much trouble identifying it in the Canadian deaths. Confused

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Toronto Deaths Are Probably From Legionnaires Disease (Update1)

Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Toronto health officials identified Legionnaires Disease, a form of pneumonia, as the probable cause of death of 16 people at a nursing home in the city.

Autopsy results on three of the dead residents of the Seven Oaks Home for the Aged showed Legionella pneumophila, the bacterium that causes Legionnaires, Toronto Public Health said in statement today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000082&sid=aD30A9cHyUZ4&refer=canada
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Tissue of dead solves mystery

Fuzzy rod shapes in lab dish point to legionnaires' as cause of deaths at nursing home

By CAROLYN ABRAHAM

Friday, October 7, 2005 Posted at 3:32 AM EDT

From Friday's Globe and Mail

The answer, so anxiously awaited, came at last from the dead themselves.

Tissue swatches from the lungs of three deceased residents of the Seven Oaks nursing home in Toronto finally provided the key cells to be plucked and cultured.

By lunchtime yesterday, the puzzle's missing piece took shape in a petri dish: the clustered, fuzzy rods of Legionella pneumophila -- a craver of water, soil and lungs.

It was a surprise.

Doctors had suspected from the outset this wily bacteria might be behind the sickness and 16 deaths at the facility in Toronto's east end: Legionella are notorious for hanging out in air-conditioners, hot tubs and moist vents, and infecting dozens with one airborne blast.

But in the previous week, 40 urinary tests searching for legionella had come back negative.

Yet across the Atlantic Ocean, Steve Berger at the Tel Aviv Medical Center had warned on Tuesday that results from urine tests were not enough to discount legionnaires' disease as the cause of Toronto's mysterious outbreak.

Dr. Berger sent an e-mail early on Oct. 4 to the Internet site where public health officials discuss outbreaks and cases of infectious disease. In it, he noted that urine tests are insufficient to detect all forms of this insidious bug.

"Most such [urinary] tests are designed to detect only Legionella pneumophila -- serogroup 1," Dr. Berger wrote. "Additional procedures such as culture and serology, should be performed in order to rule out other strains of Legionella."

The process of culturing tissue specimens in labs working on the Seven Oaks outbreak, however, was held up by the delay in taking samples from victims.

Donald Low, the new medical director of the Ontario Public Health Lab, said in an interview yesterday that although the first deaths of Seven Oaks' residents occurred Friday and Saturday, the first autopsies were not performed until Monday.

"Lung tissue degenerates very quickly, and it can be difficult to get good samples," Dr. Low had lamented yesterday morning.

It is not clear why there was such a delay between times of death and autopsies. But the lengthy procedure of examining cadavers has declined in hospitals across North America. This is due in part to reducing costs, and advances in scanning technology that allow unprecedented interior views of the body while alive. As it was, no cultures of legionella -- which can take a few days to grow -- were seeded in the provincial lab until Monday...

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From frozen Alaska to the lab: a virus 39,000 times more virulent than flu

The Deadliest Flu Virus in the World: Made in USA

Bush Plan Shows U.S. Is Not Ready for Deadly Flu
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