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Meatless Meat
Joined: 22 Dec 2001
Posts: 2
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida, United States |
Chemtrails Over South Florida 12/21/2001
Sat Dec 22, 2001 5:50 pm
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Up until yesterday I had not observed the phenomenon of chemtrails over my own home skies. They are spooky. Yesterday over Fort Lauderdale and all the way from one visible horizon to the next trails were sprayed in the patterns of x's, t's, and s's. I smelled an usual medicinal/coppery smell in the air which seemed to be everywhere. I can hardly believe these things are sprayed so blatantly across the sky, and so few people notice them. What is going on? |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
Posts: 2501
Location: right here |
Sat Dec 22, 2001 7:15 pm
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Geonocide of the American sheeple? Aluminum dulling the senses, Illuminati culling the herd? |
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FLKook

Joined: 28 Apr 2001
Posts: 710
Location: East Central Florida |
Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:45 pm
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Welcome Meatless, I'm from E. Central Fl (spacecoast) and we have cts most of the time. November was a real exception, there were very few and now in Dec. "they" seem to favor night spray.
There are so many theories as to what they are doing. It seems most of us are resigned to the fact that they probably have multiple agendas with our skies. You say this is your first home sky experience...how long have you been aware of the reality of chemtrails? |
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Big Daddy

Joined: 23 Jan 2002
Posts: 19
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL |
Thu Jan 24, 2002 6:20 am
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To Meatless Meat,
Guess what MM? I'm the guy who was interviewed on Monday by Diana Reed for South Florida's Fox news station. (Channel 7) And I ALSO saw my first chemtrail pattern on December 21st 2001. I also bought a video camera the week before and was carrying it on me that day.
Here's a link to a Real Video clip of parts of my video tape. Now that I'm registered here, I'll let everyone know when the Fox News segment will air in South Florida. I'll also make a Real Video file of the segment for ALL to see. (My Real Video files are of EXCELLENT quality... just follow the download instructions CAREFULLY!)
http://oberon.spaceports.com/~dontalt/contrail.htm
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Big Daddy

Joined: 23 Jan 2002
Posts: 19
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL |
Thu Jan 24, 2002 6:32 am
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I think the reason me and Meatless Meat hadn't observed chemtrail patterns over South Florida prior to 12/21/01, has EVERYthing to do with the weather. Unless the upper atmosphere is cold, we don't see ANY chemtrails or NORMAL jetliner contrails here. But December 21st was during one of the first cold fronts to come through South Florida this winter. So they were busted. (See more below on "Busted")
However, the cool weather doesn't explain the tic-tac-toe pattern i caught. As Diana Reed from Fox News also said, down here we're in a position to NOT have many jetliner flights passing over head on any given day. So the odds of the four planes I caught in my video creating a tic-tac-toe pattern like they did... from supposed NORMAL flights, is almost astronomical.
But yes, I became a believer that day. I hadn't completely ruled it OUT up until then. Just wasn't convinced and wondered if it was normal flights in those other parts of the country, just happening to create unusual patterns by coincidence. Not any more. And if I hadn't caught the plane in the act of CREATING the chemtrails, I might have STILL remained a skeptic. But I DID catch the plane. (See video link above) And that sucker was full altitude... 30,000+ feet... NOT a sky writer.
"Busted"
I don't think "Busted" is a good term to explain what chemtrail observers witness. And that's for one very important reason; If they know we'll see the patterns when weather conditions are a certain way, than why would they carry out the flights ANYway? The answer is simple. Whatever they're doing is so important, or it's so important that their spray schedule isn't interrupted, that they don't care if we see them.
Just my oppinions.
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FLKook

Joined: 28 Apr 2001
Posts: 710
Location: East Central Florida |
Thu Jan 24, 2002 4:17 pm
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Cold weather has NOTHING to do with it. They sprayed us hard all spring and summer. Real hard, daily. Since the weather turned colder we have had a marked decrease in spray activity. Perhaps they just moved a bit further to the south.
Glad more people in our so called "sunshine state" are waking up to this issue. |
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roman

Joined: 20 Sep 2000
Posts: 407
Location: Marietta Ohio USA |
Fri Jan 25, 2002 1:31 am
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Welcome new members from the sunshine state.I try to spend as much time as I can in your state only a little farther south.I seen my first chemtrail in Key West last year and have a dandy picture of it at Mallory square sunset celebration.Here in Ohio we have been getting sprayed like roaches since late 99. roman... |
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Big Daddy

Joined: 23 Jan 2002
Posts: 19
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL |
Fri Jan 25, 2002 2:37 am
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In northern latitudes, it can be warm at the surface and cold at 30,000 feet.
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Deb
Joined: 04 Oct 2001
Posts: 163
Location: Plainfield, Indiana USA |
Fri Jan 25, 2002 3:12 am
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Big Daddy said "I think the reason me and Meatless Meat hadn't observed chemtrail patterns over South Florida prior to 12/21/01, has EVERYthing to do with the weather. Unless the upper atmosphere is cold, we don't see ANY chemtrails or NORMAL jetliner contrails here."
If you would give me your location, that is your closest airport and the distance from it, I have a tool where I can determine if you are near any flight paths, even though planes don't stay directly on them. Also, an awful lot of military flying over Florida these days, for your protection, not to harm.
If you would like to determine the temperature at any altitude, you can that here: http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/projects/adds/
And there is a discussion about relative humidity at altitude also in the Science Forum below. It has everything to do with weather.
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Meatless Meat
Joined: 22 Dec 2001
Posts: 2
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida, United States |
Fri Jan 25, 2002 10:01 pm
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Deb said: "If you would give me your location, that is your closest airport and the distance from it, I have a tool where I can determine if you are near any flight paths, even though planes don't stay directly on them. Also, an awful lot of military flying over Florida these days, for your protection, not to harm."
No need, I already know for fact that I am near several major and minor flight paths, there's never a minute that goes by that a dozen and half planes aren't seen flying nearby or even directly overhead. As for the military presence in the skies these days it could be debated whether that is in fact for our protection or not (after all, those of us on this site should realize more than most people that things are rarely as they seem). But both things are quite beside the point, which is the chemtrail spraying itself, which was visible on that one day and never before or since that I've seen (and believe me not a day goes by now that I don't check the skies for trails). The trails I saw that chilly December day were recently featured prominently on a local news station, WSVN 7. I have seen airplanes my whole life because I have always lived near a number of flight paths, and I've seen contrails my whole life, and these were not contrails. I watched white unmarked airplanes silently paint the sky in these trails from one horizon to the next. I smelled a repulsive odor that could only have come down from the trails themselves because the smell was everywhere. I watched those trails hang in the sky for more than four hours and they did not disappear but rather took on the illusion of rolling cloudbanks. After exposure to this scene, myself and dozens of others fell sick, though most people attributed their illness to 'cold and flu season' (which is I guess the perfect cover for such activities as chemtrail spraying). I have never in my life had an inner ear infection and extreme as I developed within twenty-four hours of the visible spraying, and which I suffered with for weeks and weeks before I finally beat it. I can't claim to know what chemtrails are, nor whether the people utilizing them believe they are helping us or harming us, the fact is that enough has been done throughout human history in the name of 'good' that the committed in the name of 'evil' can't begin to compare. In either case, it is dangerous, harmful, and just obviously wrong. |
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Deb
Joined: 04 Oct 2001
Posts: 163
Location: Plainfield, Indiana USA |
Sat Jan 26, 2002 5:05 am
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When did the news story air? |
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KnewEyes

Joined: 23 Apr 2001
Posts: 667
Location: under those cloud-like things |
Sat Jan 26, 2002 9:36 pm
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quote: (after all, those of us on this site should realize more than most people that things are rarely as they seem).
Ain't THAT the truth!!
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