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Wesley

Joined: 25 Jul 2004
Posts: 20
Location: Netherlands, The Hague |
What's this?
Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:07 pm
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These pictures i made in the Netherlands 08-28-2005:
On the 4th picture you can see a little white chemtrail between the 2 ... don't know what to name it. Anybody with ideas?
The dark shadowlike stripes dissapeard in a couple of minutes. |
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CargoX
Joined: 16 Nov 2004
Posts: 69
Location: Northern Virginia |
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:58 pm
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Sometimes I have seen this and I think they are shadows of trails that are above the canopy. _________________ Watching... |
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Et in Arcadia ego

Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 2166
Location: The Void |
Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:17 pm
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The shadows apear to be caused by persistent contrails(I dislike using the word 'chemtrails', but we're talking about the same thing, basically) that are casting shadows down onto the cloud layers beneath them. I've taken several of these shots myself:
Interestingly enough, I've also seen trails that cut into and seemed to dissipate natural cloud formation without actually leaving a visible trail themselves:
Here's a GOES Satalitte movie from '97 that shows contrails cutting into clouds that I found real interesting:
http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/goes/pub/goes/QTmovies/970510.florida.mov
You'll notice that they don't leave trails of their own, but 'burn' into the cirrus. I saw something really similar happen a few weeks ago here but I wasn't able to photograph it. I saw a trail being made against this same puffy kind of cumulostratus in both our photos and not long afterwards there was a huge dissolving effect that made what looked very much like the hole-punch clouds people have seen:
I described the effect as analagous to dissolving a beer's foam head with a touch of earwax. Sounds silly, but the behavior is almost identical.
I meant to start a thread discussing this, but I guess the topics been brought up here first, so that's my 2 cents on it. The shadows rapidly fade as when the trails above begin the dispersal behavior, the density of material is no longer tightly condensed, allowing more light to pass through through the trail itself as it fans out. From my own observations, this only happens to a very specific type of cloud, the cumulostratus, which form these large pillow-looking arrangements. I've not yet seen trails cut into the higher altitude natural cirrus; at those heights, the cirrus and contrails seem to feed off each other and expand greatly in each other's presence.
This is, of course, only my own observation and interpretation of what we're seeing..
The 'Black Line' phenomenon thread has many of these types of images, and you can take a look at those here:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread1831.html
Anyways, welcome to CTC, and thanks for sharing your images.
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soulcore

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
Posts: 285
Location: Dallas |
Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:51 pm
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I agree, it appears to be a shadow from a persistant contrail falling onto the cloudcover below.
like so...
 _________________ In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
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