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PostSun Nov 13, 2005 3:14 am  Reply with quote  

Speaking of Gays Swamp....




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PostSun Nov 13, 2005 3:53 am  Reply with quote  

GUN FACTS 4.0

Debunking feel-good MYTHS


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Swawp Gas: The killing machine, be it animals or people, is based on over-powering someone.


Swamp,... one only needs to spend time in the wilderness to understand how CRUEL nature itself can be. Civilization is benign and soft by comparison.
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PostSun Nov 13, 2005 4:32 am  Reply with quote  

I pointed out Pink Pistol early in the thread.

Let's get this straight, as I am spinning my wheels

1) I am not for confiscating guns

2) I am not for everyone being armed

3) Do we model our society after Dodge City or Helsinki?

4) Far Right Wing Propaganda disregards stats about European culture towards guns, and their avoidance of violence more than the US, OUTSIDE of England, which is trying it's damnedest to be like the USA

5) I wish the best for San Francisco

6) You or I DO NOT know what the outcome of San Francisco's ban on handguns (There is already more shotgun sales)
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PostSun Nov 13, 2005 4:43 am  Reply with quote  

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Swamp,... one only needs to spend time in the wilderness to understand how CRUEL nature itself can be. Civilization is benign and soft by comparison.


I've probably spent as much time in the wilderness as you have in the city. It is the same. There are carnivores and vegetarians. Cruel creatures and kind creatures.

it is up to us which we emulate.

I wish you all on this site the best of fortune who believe arming yourself will protect yourselves against enemies seen and unseen.


You fight dragons long enough you become one.....Ancient Chinese Proverb
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PostWed Nov 16, 2005 11:26 pm  Reply with quote  

Olbermann covered O'reilly's San Fran comments:


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OLBERMANN: We rejoin you now and pause our COUNTDOWN for a segment full of fiery ‘splosions and bizarre creatures and -- No, it‘s not time yet for the Bill O‘Reilly segment.

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Is it satire to invite al Qaeda into an American city in order to attack it? Speaking of women wearing sushi, that‘s Bill O‘Reilly‘s story, at least his latest version of it. But in San Francisco, the city board of supervisors does not see the spoof.

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OLBERMANN: “Patriotism,” Dr. Samuel Johnson famously wrote, “is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” If that‘s true, Bill O‘Reilly has reached his last refuge. The San Francisco Board of Supervisors is looking at a resolution calling for O‘Reilly to be taken off the air by his TV masters, FOX News, and his radio syndicators, Westwood One.

Our third story on the COUNTDOWN, the man who has been to all but about 1 percent of the population an obnoxious and perverted but fundamentally buffoonish character is in the deep woods now. He has not only amplified on his call to have al Qaeda attack San Francisco, he has also defended it while at the same time doctoring the transcript of it, while at the same time claiming that all those who criticize him are against America.

In a moment, the San Francisco supervisor leading the call for O‘Reilly‘s dismissal will join us here. First we go back to where this started.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

BILL O‘RIELLY, HOST, “THE RADIO FACTOR”: Hey, you know, if you want to ban military recruiting, fine, but I‘m not going to give you another nickel of federal money. You know, if I‘m the president of the United States, I walk right in to Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium, and I say, listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you‘re not going to get another nickel in federal funds. Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead. And if al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we‘re not going to do anything about it. We‘re going to say, look, every other place in America is off-limits to you except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Colt Tower? Go ahead.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

OLBERMANN: While redacting that particular part of his radio program from a week ago from his Web site, last Friday O‘Reilly went on someone else‘s radio program, a conservative talk show, and defended his position.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

O‘REILLY: And what I said isn‘t controversial. What I said needed to be said. And I‘m not—I‘m just—I‘m sitting and I‘m looking at a city that has absolutely no clue of what the world is, none. You know, if you had been hit on 9/11 instead of New York, believe me, you would not have voted against military recruiting. Yet the left-wing, selfish land of Oz philosophy that the media and the city politicians have embraced out there is an absolute intellectual disgrace.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

OLBERMANN: Then last night on his TV show, he backtracked slightly, calling his comments a, quote, “satirical riff,” before insulting San Francisco voters yet a third time and threatening his detractors on the Internet, for good measure.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

O‘REILLY: What did the citizens of San Francisco think was going to happen after they voted to oppose military recruitment? We‘re in the middle of a war on terror, and these loopy voters did something like this and I‘m not supposed to call them on it? Come on. Can you imagine this happening during World War II?

So I‘m glad the smear site‘s made a big deal out of it, because now we can all know who was with the anti-military Internet crowd. We‘ll post the names of all who support the smear merchants on billoreilly.com.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

OLBERMANN: And you thought Senator Joe McCarthy was dead. San Francisco‘s Board of Supervisors is now debating putting a measure on its agenda next week calling for FOX to fire the big giant head, or for his radio people at Westwood One to discontinue his radio program. The man leading that charge, supervisor Chris Daly joins us now from San Francisco.

Thank you for your time tonight, sir.

CHRIS DALY, SUPERVISOR, SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS: Thanks for having me, Keith.

OLBERMANN: Let me play devil‘s advocate here. Let me assume for a moment that he isn‘t lying when he said that this stuff about inviting al Qaeda to blow up your city was a satirical riff. If I had gone off on a similar satirical riff while standing in line at San Francisco International Airport, I would be arrested, right?

DALY: Quite possibly arrested, and just consider if, you know, your background was Arab-American, it would be taken very seriously. I think San Franciscans right now, as Bill O‘Reilly digs in, we have a message to Bill O‘Reilly, we don‘t find your satirical riff funny. We find your words damaging, you know, and dangerous for 770,000 San Franciscans, over 100,000 San Franciscans who are children, you know, this is dangerous, FOX News and Westwood One need to take some accountability for this and terminate Bill O‘Reilly‘s employment.

OLBERMANN: Maybe just as important as underscoring that this is not patriotism, it is hate speech, and self-promotional hate speech at that, is the point that it is broadly inaccurate. I mean, what is he leaving out particularly when he says, as he did a week ago today: “In San Francisco they are voting on two initiatives, one would ban military recruiting.” That‘s not the entire story on those propositions, is it?

DALY: Not the entire story. He is talking about propositions H and I on the ballot. I was the main author on Proposition H, which will ban handguns for most San Franciscans. We have had a problem with homicides, handgun-related in San Francisco. That is our response, 58 percent of the voters voted in favor of that measure.

And he is talking about Proposition I, which was put on the ballot by signature, citizen petition, over 15,000 signatures were to place Proposition I on the ballot. It too got 58 percent of the vote last Tuesday. And it‘s a statement of policy.

Basically what Proposition I says is that it should be the policy of the City and County of San Francisco that we discourage military recruiters on campus. And, you know, you don‘t have to watch the latest Michael Moore film to know that some military recruiters, not all, are selling—you know, are selling goods to American young people.

And in San Francisco, while we think that young people should have other options, those who are in poor communities, those who are in poor schools, lots of them don‘t have real economic opportunity, and so Proposition I also called on my board, the board of supervisors, to do more in the budget for 18-year-olds coming out of college, and we plan to do that next budget year.

OLBERMANN: So this is—he says, you know, San Francisco is banning military recruiting. It‘s on the actual campuses and it‘s to discourage, in any event.

(CROSSTALK)

OLBERMANN: I‘ve mentioned this many times before, he has been bouncing around this business for 30 years. And he has always been viewed as a guy who is several light bulbs short of a marquee. Why not just dismiss him as the Michael Savage-type, to quote another figure who is familiar in your city, one of these learning-challenged hypocrites who believes in rights for everybody who agrees with him and for nobody who doesn‘t?

DALY: Well, it is an interesting point. Certainly “Hard Copy” is a long way from “Sportscenter,” which I used to watch you on every night, a legitimate news program—sports news program. And you can say, write the guy off, but unfortunately, he‘s become very powerful, not just in influencing public opinion in Middle America, but seemingly influencing policy made in Washington, D.C.

This guy has big ratings. He is bombastic and he uses that to promote his show and boost up his ratings. And his little mini empire that he is building with the radio show and with his books and his children‘s book, you know, for crying out loud, and you know the guy has a huge following, and with that comes a huge responsibility.

He occupies, you know, a lot of airwave, and with that comes responsibility. The guy has got the right to say whatever he wants, and he has the right to speak his mind, I guess. I‘m not trying to encroach on his First Amendment rights, but he doesn‘t necessarily have the right to be a so-called anchor on FOX News.

OLBERMANN: I bet he would not admit right now to influencing policy in Washington. In any event, San Francisco supervisor Chris Daly, who has introduced a resolution calling for the firing of Bill O‘Reilly. Good luck with it. There is still advertisers to deal with. We‘ll see what happens, thanks for joining us.

DALY: Absolutely. The vote will be on Tuesday.

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PostThu Nov 17, 2005 2:49 am  Reply with quote  

Anyway, this was certainly a controversial hot subject, and I feel bad Mech and I had to get pissed at each other.

Family does that sometime.

Very Happy

You still have my utmost respect Mech

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