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hitech_46253





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It's About the Water STUPID! PostMon Feb 11, 2002 7:47 pm  Reply with quote  

I've been storing US Satellite photos everyday at my website now at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews
I've now noted a repeating wide diagonal BAND of 'cloud cover' across the U.S. appearing far too frequently and un-naturally. Two of these can be seen at these 2 URLs: http://http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/1433 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/1418 And a partial band forming on this day: http://http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/1461

If you go back through the archives, you can see many more. DROUGHT is being deliberately caused in most cases. Here are a few recent stories below. It's amazing IDIOTS like TrickyDeb continue to spout their goo! The 'EVIDENCE' she always refuses to acknowledge is vividly clear. It's no accident that the WORLD BANK want to make 'WATER BANKS' nor is it an accident that we're seeing more attacks on land ownership using WATER RIGHTS and the ESA (Endangered Species Act) as DROUGHT was deliberately caused in Klamath Falls Oregon. The FEDs want GPS coordinates of wells in TX etc. Water, Water WATER! Keeping this in the realm of so-called 'conspiracy theory' is important for the globalists and TOOLS like Deb serve thier ends.

Continuing Drought May Dry Out Rockport http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/wcvb/20020208/lo/1073255_1.html
...NewsCenter 5's Jack Harper reports that officials in Rockport are worried that drought conditions may become dangerous.MWRA communities, fed by the Quabbin Reservoir,...

Rains Helpful, But Drought Continues http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/wyff/20020206/lo/1070603_1.html
...Those and other recent rains have moistened up topsoil, but have not been enough to be true drought-busters....

Blowing in the Wind! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/wcom/20020209/we_wcom/blowing_in_the_wind_
...The rain will be much welcomed because of the terrible drought that continues to plague the area with low water supplies....

Gusty Winds for the Central U.S. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/wcom/20020209/we_wcom/gusty_winds_for_the_central_u_s_
...The rain will be much welcomed because of the terrible drought that continues to plague the area with low water supplies....

Wind machine http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/wcom/20020208/we_wcom/wind_machine
...The rains will help to relieve the drought, but could cause urban and small stream flooding....

Baucus Pushes Farm Bill Disaster Aid (AP) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020208/ap_on_go_co/congress_farmers_2
...The money would go to wheat growers and other producers who lost crops to drought or excess moisture last year....

Tropical Air Thins European Ozone Layer by 30% (Reuters) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020208/hl_nm/trop_1
... dioxide gases is affecting climate by creating global warming, leading to increased storms and droughts....

East Coast scrapes for water as winter drought drags on (USA TODAY) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20020206/ts_usatoday/3831759
From Georgia to Maine, eastern states are worried about a rare winter drought that has dried up reservoirs and forced conservation in a season when water is usually plentiful.

Tropical Air Thins European Ozone Layer by 30% (Reuters) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020208/hl_nm/trop_1
...Many scientists say an increase in carbon dioxide gases is affecting climate by creating global warming, leading to increased storms and droughts....
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hitech_46253





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PostWed Feb 13, 2002 5:50 pm  Reply with quote  

Drought Dries Thousands of N.H. Wells (AP) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020210/ap_on_re_us/drought_woes_1
...Now he is one of hundreds of New Hampshire residents waiting out the second-worst drought in state history....
...Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, New Mexico and Texas have areas of extreme drought, while areas of severe drought are found in New Jersey,......When spring comes, there will be little snow to melt and refill the lakes....
(I never wanted to be able to say: "I told you so." But if you go back through the news archives, I DID! Here is the GOAL and PURPOSE behind CHEMTRAILS plain and simple. What do you think will happen to CROPS this year people??!!)

Water Authority suffers a dry spell (Allentown Morning Call) http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/mcall/20020211/lo/water_authority_suffers_a_dry_spell_1.html
...But when there is a drought, Panther Creek is required by the government to get its water from sources other than the reservoir....

Rushed decision endangers species and people, too (USA TODAY) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20020211/cm_usatoday/3844384
...Low water levels caused by a combination of drought and irrigation from Upper Klamath Lake never threatened the suckerfish....
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penumbra





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PostWed Feb 13, 2002 7:36 pm  Reply with quote  

Thanks for all the info hitech!

Don't forget North Carolina! http://www.ncwater.org/Water_Supply_Planning/Drought_Monitoring_Council/
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Thermit





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PostWed Feb 13, 2002 8:06 pm  Reply with quote  

Hi-tech Larry,

I'm trying to understand this drought in Indiana thing. Was looking at some drought maps, and Indiana is listed as "Unusually Moist" and "Very Moist". Help me understand.



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Deb





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PostFri Feb 15, 2002 11:40 pm  Reply with quote  

"DROUGHT was deliberately caused in Klamath Falls Oregon"

I don't understand the deductive reasoning that chemtrails cause drought. In fact, the drought in the Pacific Northwest has been over for several months, while chemtrails are still reported along the west coast continuously. Florida experienced a drought but seems to be recovering also. A short drought in Indiana has been over for a year or more. http://enso.unl.edu/monitor/monitor.html

Is the statement of facts against board rules?
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Nirvana





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PostSat Feb 16, 2002 1:49 am  Reply with quote  

Seattle has gotten lots of Chemtrails just like everywhere else...yet we have gotten huge amounts of snow in the mountains this winter. The top of a local ski resort is 166" for example as of today. The elevation there is only around 5000'.

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Thermit





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PostMon Feb 18, 2002 4:17 pm  Reply with quote  

Interesting...

quote:

Pollution drying up rainfall
By Michael Smith
UPI Science News
Published 2/17/2002 6:29 PM


BOSTON, Feb. 17 (UPI) -- New satellite data shows tiny airborne particles are changing rainfall patterns around the world, researchers said Sunday.

The man-made particles, mostly from burning fossil fuels, make it more difficult for clouds to form and less likely to rain if they do form, researchers said at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Because they block sunlight, these tiny particles slow down evaporation from lakes and oceans, said conference participant Daniel Rosenfeld of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. "So they suppress clouds in the first place," he said.

What's more, he said, the particles are too small to form the seeds of raindrops, "so the clouds that do form ... have a hard time to rain."


http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=17022002-040642-4951r
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Deb





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PostMon Feb 18, 2002 11:07 pm  Reply with quote  

Dr. Minnis's team has been studying the climatic effects of contrails for quite awhile now. It always made me wonder why people so concerned about the environment so easily dismissed their work?????
http://www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/sass/pathfinder_research.html
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Dan Rockwell





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PostTue Feb 19, 2002 8:34 am  Reply with quote  

Dry Spell
Droughts Plague East Coast
ABCNEWS.com
By John Yang

C A M P S P R I N G S, Maryland, Feb. 18 — An unusually warm, dry summer and winter has resulted in the East Coast's worst drought in years.

In Maine, it's the worst on record. Wells are running dry. In southern Maine, Debbie Angelides was without water for more than a month while she waited for a suddenly busy drilling company to dig a new well. It made for some long trips to the shower — at her in-laws' home, 35 miles away. "We went about every third day, which is 35 miles away," she said. "You just can't believe what it's like without water. ... You know, just little things, like brushing your teeth at night."

Vermont's Lake Champlain is at its lowest level in 30 years, exposing parts of old shipwrecks. Officials from the Lake Champlain Maritime Museum in Basin Harbor, Vt., have been investigating sites never seen before. In upstate New York, the reservoirs for New York City are at about half their normal capacity. At the Cannonsville Reservoir, which was formed when the town of Downsville was flooded in 1964, the water was so low that the abandoned town's streets, sidewalks and foundations could be seen.

Droughts have been declared in parts of 15 states from Georgia to Maine, and 14 states in the Midwest and West. But it's especially bad in the Northeast. Parts of Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Connecticut are under drought emergencies, with mandatory water restrictions. No Quick Fix It will take more than just one or two days of rain or snow to make up for last year — the fourth-driest ever in the Northeast. And the last three months of last year were the second-driest ever, leaving reservoirs, rivers and lakes at record-low levels. It will take a series of storms to saturate the soil before water runoff starts replenishing water supplies.

The drought is the result of a long-term weather pattern that's often kept the jet stream north of the Great Lakes since last spring. That means was moist air from the Gulf of Mexico hasn't been carried up the East Coast. That's created a "long-term, subtle dry spell," said Douglas LeComte, a senior meteorologist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. "And then it just got quite dramatically worse toward the end of last year," he said. "Great weather for doing stuff outside, but from the standpoint of taking care of water supplies, it wasn't good at all." So far, the biggest effect is on water supplies because it's winter. "If we had a drought this bad in the summer, it would be affecting crops and be more, much more serious," said LeComte. Officials are doing what they can to head off those bigger problems. "We're trying to manage the river flows so we can save some water in the lakes for next spring," says Dana Murch of the Maine Department of Environmental Protection. "And we're praying for rain."
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/drought020218.html



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Nirvana





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PostTue Feb 19, 2002 10:02 am  Reply with quote  

Here's one about an early spring in Britain just off the press today.

The truth seems to be more apparent...our climate is changing, becoming more unstable and chaotic. The chemtrails are most likely a last ditch effort to stabilize the climate as much as possible and give this country decent rainfall, etc. That seems to not be working completely. Also, they are trying to block harmful UV and other rays of the sun due to a thinning ozone layer.

The people behind the government like to do what is best for business, especially their business. Unstable climate is probably worse for business overall, despite some making money off emergency services, etc. Workers miss days of employment, the public gets panicy, livestock and game animals die, rivers flood or go dry, transportation is interrupted... They are trying to slow down the climate change, secretly. Their excuse for not telling the public is most likely "national defense". That's why they pulled out of Kyoto. The truth is they don't want to change the status quo and slow down real pollution. It's cheaper this way, at least so far. A billion a year spent spraying is a lot cheaper than switching to wind, solar, and hydrogen, eh?

If the climate is buggered, we the taxpayers and the world in general deserve to know. There's no national defense here, and military people should wake up to that fact and remember that they serve the public, not the elite Bilderbergers (see www.Bilderberg.org for more information) who are just out for their own gain and agenda. To them the military, CIA, NSA, and people within these organizations are just pawns anyway.

If we need the chemtrails for our own good, fine. But, how about presenting the case openly to a public that will probably understand better than expected and let's work towards viable long-term solutions together. In the mean time, I guess we'll wait and see...

Nirvana

(friend of OD Green 'Chopper)

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THE SCENT OF SPRING IN FEBRUARY FOR ENGLAND
Tues Feb 19 2002 00:45:46 UTC
DAILY MAIL

BIRDS are opting not to migrate, lawns are continuing to grow and frogs are waking up weeks early.

The natural world, it would seem, is in a state of utter confusion.

According to the calendar, Britain should be trying to shake off the winter gloom.

But unusually warm weather has kicked off the earliest spring in recorded history. Temperatures between January 13 and February 12 were the warmest since records began in 1659, averaging 8-10c compared to the normal 4-6c. Scientists observing the activity of trees, plants and birds reckon nature is approximately three weeks ahead of itself.

With newborn lambs already gambolling among the daffodils, the picture is a happy contrast to spring last year, which was marked by the sorry sight of a lamb stranded in a quagmire in Norfolk, unable to be moved because of foot-and-mouth restrictions.

Nick Collinson, of the Woodland Trust, said: 'Spring is usually regarded as starting at the beginning of March but this year it has been the middle of February. All sorts of species are responding.

'We are calling it 'the winter squeeze', with a longer autumn and an earlier spring. January was exceptionally mild, except for the first week or so.

'There's absolutely no question there is something going on when you see the figures for the last 30 years.'

Mr Collinson said he had had reports of gardeners in southern England who have had to mow their lawns throughout the winter.

Birds like the blackcap and chiffchaff were staying in Britain in ever greater numbers for the winter rather than migrating to Africa, he said.

Flowers such as the lesser celandine and coltsfoot were already starting to bloom, hawthorns were budding and elders were in leaf.

The National Trust gardens in Trelissick, Cornwall, are opening early next weekend to take advantage of the warm weather. Visitors will be able to wonder at the beautiful purple and white bloom of a rhododendron harrissi which has been tricked by the warm weather into flowering early.

Last week the Daily Mail reported how the mild weather was prompting thousands of frogs to take to the ponds of southern England to start the mating season early.

But while many people will welcome spring's early arrival, it could have a serious downside.

Research in Oxfordshire has shown that some birds could struggle to find food if they start to nest earlier. The insects which make up their diet are much slower to respond to the warmer weather and so are not available so early. Similarly, trees which respond quickest to the warmth may in the longer term force out those which react more slowly.

Rats also favour warmer weather and breed in greater numbers during mild winters.

'We suspect there will be all sorts of knock-on impacts, many of which we don't yet know about,' said Mr Collinson.

Weather expert Philip Eden calculated the temperature data and compared it with figures from the last 342 years.

He said: 'If you compare that 31-day period with the historical records, it falls way outside anything we have seen before. It's a hell of a difference if you think about it. It adds to growing evidence that global warming is a reality. These types of temperatures could be the norm in the future.'

Last October was also the warmest on record with temperatures of 14c compared to the normal average of 10c.

Scientists meeting in Boston last weekend heard that global warming will continue for the next 100 years, even if the use of fossil fuels is dramatically reduced.

Professor Robert Dickinson, of the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, said temperature increases of up to 5c can be expected over the next century.

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Deb





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PostTue Feb 19, 2002 1:37 pm  Reply with quote  

>>>"Vermont's Lake Champlain is at its lowest level in 30 years, exposing parts of old shipwrecks."<<< (Drought plagues East Coast article)

>>>"'There's absolutely no question there is something going on when you see the figures for the last 30 years.'"<<< (from the England article)

>>>"Now he is one of hundreds of New Hampshire residents waiting out the second-worst drought in state history. . . . . .

The wells are part of a state and federal program and were installed in 1966 after the state's worst drought."<<<
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020210/ap_on_re_us/drought_woes_1


So what was going on 30 years ago?

If "chemtrails" are the cause of drought, or the remedy, how do you explain a 3 year drought in Afghanistan?

Year 2001 Only Slightly Warmer Than Average: Study http://unisci.com/stories/20021/0109023.htm

Also, isn't it ironic that the same major media so many people distrust are used for illustrating a point?

Edited for improper use of HTML

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Deb





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PostThu Feb 21, 2002 12:35 pm  Reply with quote  

Interesting report regarding mild winter and biomass burning- http://ens-news.com/ens/feb2002/2002L-02-20-09.html

From Environment News Service

BIOMASS BURNING BOOSTS STRATOSPHERIC MOISTURE

NEW HAVEN, Connecticut, February 20, 2002 (ENS) - Tropical wildfires and slash and burn agriculture have helped double the moisture content in the stratosphere over the last 50 years, a Yale researcher has concluded after examining satellite weather data.

"In the stratosphere, there has been a cooling trend that is now believed to be contributing to milder winters in parts of the northern hemisphere," said Steven Sherwood, assistant professor of geology and geophysics. "The cooling is caused as much by the increased humidity as by carbon dioxide."

"Higher humidity also helps catalyze the destruction of the ozone layer," added Sherwood, whose article appears in this month's issue of the journal "Science."

Cooling in the stratosphere causes changes to the jet stream that produce milder winters in North America and Europe. By contrast, harsher winters result in the Arctic.

Sherwood said that about half of the increased humidity in the stratosphere has been attributed to methane oxidation. It was not known, however, what caused the remaining added moisture.

In a study funded by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), Sherwood examined a combination of data from a NASA satellite launched in the 1990s and operational weather satellite data archived at the Goddard Institute for Space Science in New York.

In particular, he studied monthly and yearly fluctuations of humidity in the stratosphere, relative humidity near the tropical tropopause - the place where air enters the stratosphere - ice crystal size in towering cumulus clouds, and aerosols associated with tropical biomass burning.

Tropical biomass burning is any burning of plant material. In the tropics, the burning is often associated with the clearing of forest or grassland for agricultural purposes.

"More aerosols lead to smaller ice crystals and more water vapor entering the stratosphere," Sherwood explained. "Aerosols are smoke from burning. They fluctuate seasonally and geographically. Over decades there have been increases linked to population growth."


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Dan Rockwell





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PostThu Feb 21, 2002 7:02 pm  Reply with quote  

Most droughts occur in hot weather, especially during the summer months when the sun is at higher elevations. Within the last few years, we have had droughts here, with one lasting for 23 days with no precipitation whatsoever. About two years ago, we had a drought that was so bad that New England farmers reported having a 90 percent crop loss. It was so bad, in fact, that people doing ditch digging and other types of related work were reporting that they were finding dust to a depth of four feet. With that said, and having gone over a data that my organization is collecting and sorting, I can honestly say that this is a very unusual drought indeed.

For one thing, with a normal drought, one would expect to find that the ground is dry, however, the ground is considerably moist and even muddy in some places. Without getting too technical, it seems by all I've seen so far, the moisture is being sucked out of the ground into the atmosphere and staying there. Using the GHCC satellites to check for water vapor in the atmosphere, we have found a considerable amount of water vapor but it is not being recirculated as it should.

Though the temperatures have been slightly above average as pointed out by Thermit,
here in Stamford, we've been breaking all kinds of records with extreme fluctuations. On average, we're supposed to have temperatures within the teens and thirties. However, we've had temperatures way above the norm. One day it could be 20 degrees, the next day or two could be anywhere from 50 to 60 degrees and it has been over 60 degrees more than once this winter. The highest temperature so far this year was an astonishing 68 degrees. And the presense of mud at this time of year, by itself, is not a good sign. During the winter months the ground is supposed to be frozen. Normally, water from snow and other precipitation runs over the frozen ground surface and into the reservoirs. However, since the ground is not frozen in most places, the water is absorbed into the ground.

Currently, the reservoirs in Connecticut, New York and New Jersey are anywhere between 45 to 55 percent capacity. Normally at this time of year, they are at at least 80 to 90 percent capacity. Though Deb points out mentions of this being the worst drought in 30 years, in some areas, it is being considered to be the worst dry spell in 75 years. And this drought is not over by a long shot. With the sun throwing of M CLASS FLARES, and other factors, this could turn out to be the worst drought in New England history.

We have also noted a possible connection between the amount of haze in the atmosphere below the normal cloud level and the amount of humidity in the air. The more humidity there is, the thicker the haze. On day with medium to high levels of humidity in the air, the trails are observed to thicken out and form clouds. However, on days with low humidity, (25 percent or less) the trails were noted to disipate in less than 5 minutes. For example, I noticed jets trying to form trails on 2/19/02, but the trails dissipated in less than 3 minutes. And yes, these were the same jets that I had seen laying the trails before making the same gridlines and in the same formation, etc. One jet even seemed to have his sprayer set to maximum power and was flying slower than normal in an attempt to compensate. Though it may be a coincidence, the humidity was bouncing between 21% and 25% that day. Earlier that morning, I also noticed old fat trails of various lengths and varying degrees of haze also moving in. Trails that were formed somewhere either north or south of us, depending on the wind direction and cloud movement even earlier in the morning in an area where there was more humidity. The humidity for the New England States south of us that day ranged from 60% to 20% from Florida to Connecticut respectively that day.

Later in the day, as the haze and clouds moved in and as the spraying continued, the humidity began to increase until it reached approximately 60%. By 4:00 PM, there was a large black and creme colored mass covering not only us, but also most of New England. This mass is still with us, though somewhat dissipated, even as I write this. In Comparison, from July to October of 2000, we had an above average rainfall, and had very little Chemtrail activity. The winter of 2000/01, we had an average snowfall. During 2001, however, we had been chemmed at least twice that I can remember before June. By July we had temperatures in the high 90's and very little preciptation. From November to now, we have been Chemmed multiple times and have had a considerable amount of abnormal solar activity with the sun shooting out X Class and M CLASS Flares. Though, the increased solar activity as well as the increased amount of spraying could be a coincidence, it might not be as BOB B has pointed out. I for one have an idea of how bad the direct hit of an X CLass flare can be, but can not go into too many details because the data is still being collected and reviewed by other researchers.

Anyway, I just thought that I'd put in my own comments and personal observations instead of parroting what the nasty news media is saying. I've been doing archaeological research since 1992 and have been a non-politically affiliated environmentalist and wildlife habitat rehabilitator since 1995 and currently am the President of a 100+ member environmental group as well as a 200+ member preservation group, so I do have some knowledge in certain areas that other people don't.


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Deb





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PostThu Feb 21, 2002 7:35 pm  Reply with quote  

Dan, what are you using to measure the relative humidity at flying altitudes?

You said, "One jet even seemed to have his sprayer set to maximum power and was flying slower than normal in an attempt to compensate."

Please define "his sprayer."
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PostThu Feb 21, 2002 7:45 pm  Reply with quote  

Thanks Dan...
"For one thing, with a normal drought, one would expect to find that the ground is dry, however, the ground is considerably moist and even muddy in some places. Without getting too technical, it seems by all I've seen so far, the moisture is being sucked out of the ground into the atmosphere and staying there."

Maybe this would explain the prevalance of mold, mildew, fungi and fungal infections?
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