posted 07-15-2000 11:20 AM            

Newbie here in Ohio. Just witnessed (Wednesday) what I consider a Chemtrail. Normal clouds just don't do this! Pic's are on my thumbnail page, bottom row. (Nikon 990 Gallery).

Any comments, or confirmations? Please?

nikonman.

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posted 07-15-2000 08:44 PM            

Wow! That is a great shot of a funky Chemtrail conglomeration you've got there. I've never seen anything quite like it, so many different things happening. That short curving trail is unusual to me. It would difficult for anybody to argue they were natural or contrail based.
One thing I've noticed about Ohio is that the Chemtrail displays are often very dramatic, the picture on the Chemtrail Central homepage is from the Akron area.
How long have you been observing this and do you have any more pictures?

posted 07-15-2000 10:40 PM            

That short curving trail is (in my opinion) approx (guessing) about 70-100 miles long! Unfortunately, as usual, distance is difficult to assertain without a reference point. I cannot stress enough how big this whole thing was, approx 40% of visible sky area, (that's where I get 70-100 miles). I estimate the low cloud level at 25-30K.

This is my 1st observation. One thing I don't understand is the fact that the Chemtrail seems to do a loop at the top of the pic? If this were a natural contrail would it show like this, or even appear this way? I don't understand why this trail is so immense, or how "old" it is? I live about 5 hours drive from WP-AFB, Dayton if that's any help?

Dave. (nikonman).

posted 07-16-2000 06:24 PM            

Created a composite image of Nikonman's two images:

posted 08-10-2000 06:32 AM            

Yup, another picture of high-level cirrus cloud with an aircraft contrail!

It is nothing more sinister than that. I leave contrails behind every day.

posted 08-10-2000 10:01 PM            

>>Normal clouds just don't do this!<<

You bet they don't. That second shot from the left in the bottom row is VERY disturbing. Also, the fourth shot down in the right-hand column shows some abnormal formation as well - especially in the upper left-hand corner. See that "curdled" effect? NOT normal.

I am seeing a lot of similar formations in Boston over the past five months especially.

Keep shooting - you are getting some very fine examples of abnormal atmospheric chemistry.

posted 08-11-2000 07:16 AM            

Great to have someone here who might be able to shed some light on the subject!
You say that you leave contrails all the time. Would you mind telling us who you fly for (Army, Air Force or Commercial) and what type of aircraft you pilot?
Could you explain to me why I see 40-60 jet aircraft leave immense trails during a 4 hour period and just 2 jets leave trails only about 1,000 yards long. Those 2 trails dissipated as the plane travelled (never more than 1,000 yds long) and was obvisously "different" from all the others. All planes were about the same height.
I live close, 7 miles, from a regional airport, maybe 20 flights per day, and nothing bigger than a 737 or DC-9. If they were coming in to land they would not be at 20-30K. That leaves military activity?
What can you tell me about all this? I don't want to be mad.

Nikonman.

posted 08-12-2000 10:20 PM            

I clicked on the bottom right photo to enlarge and I'd like to point something out.

See the two ball looking shapes, one having a whispy tail? I've been seeing these here in Florida lately...connected to chemtrails. It's very very odd looking. My camera is still out of commission. But I will take some around here to show you.

Are the balls a new techique of spray?

ChemBalls?

posted 08-13-2000 11:36 AM            

What makes you think every a/c in your area has anything to do with your local airfield?

What you are seeing are transiting high-level airways traffic. Airways tend to run parrallel to each other, or cross at intersections defined by a beacon or increasingly these days by a fixed point in space, determined by GPS navigation systems or two beacons.

posted 08-14-2000 06:02 AM            

See my post "Civil or Military". This is a process of elimination. Once I have the answer, I'll be happy.

Dave.