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goldrush
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No, Calif. USA
109 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-09-2000 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may have a chance to spend some time with a person who has trained C-130 and KC-135 crews in the near future. Does anyone have any specific questions that I may ask in your behalf. Try to avoid the word "chemtrails" if you want a serious answer. That word will automatically make a questioner prejudged since at least a few crewmembers have been exposed to the term at various events. Even as an unbeleiver myself, I can remain objective in offering a few questions and responding with answers given. Post or contact me directly before next Wednesday.

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Phil
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Wisconsin
30 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-09-2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phil   Visit Phil's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Goldrush, I have a few questions.

1.What is the max. distance the aircraft can fly before refueling?( I understand that there are many variables to this question,lets say crusing at 30,000 ft. at 50% throttle. please make averages)

2.can the tanker aircraft itself be refueled in mid air?

3.does a tanker aircraft have a seperate fuel system? and can it draw fuel from the main cargo tank for flight operations?

4.What is the cap. of the cargo tank, on a tanker type aircraft? ( in pounds, and gals.)

5.How many crew members are on a normal flight? What are their jobs, and rank?

6. How many ground crew members are needed to support a tanker aircraft? does that number change for six aircraft? what are their jobs, and rank?

7. How long of an landing stip is needed to take off, fully loaded?(crew, fuel, cargo)

8.are there any other windows for looking out, other than the windows in the cockpit?
who is actually in the cockpit during flight?
what are their jobs, and rank?

9.How is a flight tracked? Lets say that a standard training mission from the refueling wing of the Air Guard stationed at Milwaukee's Mitchell airfield, flies across several states, Who is the airtraffic control in charge, (military, or civilian) and do the aircraft always have their transponders on?

10.Do the aircraft have pressurized cabins? If yes. How is fresh air brought into the cabin area? How often does this happen, and at what cfs?

11. Has any crew member ever smelled anything out of the ordinary when air is refreshed? Has anyone ever gotten sick , out of the blue during a flight?

12.For the past several months, from my location the sky seems to have a milky blue appearance, even on very clear days, not at all the deep dark beautiful blue skies I remember, Does the sky still look deep blue above 30,000 ft.?


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Swedishoo
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North Pinellas County, Florida
280 posts, Aug 2000

posted 09-10-2000 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swedishoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great questions Phil.

Gold, I think once you ask all the questions you plan to ask and finish your discussion, I'd lastly throw in Contrails, that we call Chemtrails, tell him why we believe, that they are not normal contrails and just watch his reaction. His friendly demeanor will turn on you and he'll clam up. I could put money on it.

Christy

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MINYA
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Gibsonia, PA, USA
2 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-11-2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MINYA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would request that you ask: "Who owns a fleet of windowless, mid-sized, white, two-engine (on wings), jets with red leading edges on the engine nacelles and broad red longitudinal stripes on the lower fuselage flanks aft of the wings?" These aircraft, or ones with very similar markings have been seen frequently during chemtrail exercises.

Thanks,
MINYA

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Falcon
The voice of sanity and reality!


87 posts, Aug 2000

posted 09-12-2000 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Falcon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The KC-135 tanker is a highly modified airliner. It uses exactly the same system for pressurisation and air conditioning as any other pressurised aircraft.

Tankers can be refuelled in midair and will usually be able to draw on all of the fuel on board.

As for capacity, range, required runway length, crew structure, you'll probably find that these are classified information.

They will have there transponders on, it's the best way to ensure separation from other aircraft. As for flight tracking it's done in exactly the same way as any other aircraft, either military or civilian ATC depending largely on the type of airspace being transited.

As for smelling things out of the ordinary, that usually depends on how many of the crew had a curry the night before or whether beans are being served with lunch! The air is continually refreshed.

Lots of people feel sick in aircraft due to the effects of motion sickness, none of them due to any of your Chemtrail garbage.

Yes, the sky is the same lovely deep shade of blue all over the planet from about 20,000 feet upwards. The only chemicals being left behind are those in the exhaust gases of aircraft etc.

Finally, any mention of Chemtrails to a professional pilot will usually lead to the same reaction as I have, he won't "clam up" he'll just think you're all mad.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-12-2000 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goldrush,

Perhaps you can ask if these planes have the capability for dumping fuel and if they do where on the plane it would be dumped from. This is in reference to the low-flying plane leaving an unknown trail discussed in this thread.

Thanks.

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goldrush
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No, Calif. USA
109 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-12-2000 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only have a few minutes, so I'll try to be brief. I saw that pic, and that is would be the most pyrotechnic way to dump fuel if that is what it was doing!! My best "guess" is that they may be doing a study of airstream configuration using some smoke generating equipment. Studying airflow over surfaces is done this way when wind tunnel use is impractical. It does seem it would be rare that it would be done this low to the ground, unless they were also studing "ground effect" as well. I'll let Falcon explain that if he wishes, since he added quite a bit of general information to the KC-135 questions. KC's do dump excess fuel to permit lower landing loads especially when they have been sent up in advance of a mission and then the mission is moved or cancelled. Advanced navigational equipment is now giving cause to eliminate the Navigator crew position from a usual crew of 4 to 5 persons. I have heard this is cause for unease among some.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-18-2000 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goldrush,

Anything ever come of that meeting?

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-19-2000 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has been forever and a day....gr.....

Those white tanks under the control center in AWACS aircraft... would be a good question for someone....

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goldrush
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No, Calif. USA
109 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-19-2000 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just got back from the races, you know. Will get back with some answers soon... First things first, unpacking, regrouping, housework, animals and paperwork. Met some nice NOAA folks and asked, what the strangest thing they had ever been asked or heard about. Beleive it or not contrails were not IT!!! They had not yet been introduced to that one.

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goldrush
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No, Calif. USA
109 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-22-2000 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phil, finally, I can give you something to sink your teeth into!! www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/kc135-strat/ and www.af.mil/news/factsheets/KC_135_stratotanker.html also www.kc-10.com The military can use any frequency it wants. Here are some callsigns www.xmission.com/~glm/milair/callsign.html and examples of chatter, www.qth.net/archive/milcom/200002/20000228.html Pics and more info.... www.salemboysauto.com/national-guard/kc-135.htm especially good, http://131.84.1.31/photos/aircraft.html and scanner frequencies, www.intouchonsite.com/scanner.htm follow Links, for your area. see Webring.

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Phil
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Wisconsin
30 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-23-2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phil   Visit Phil's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Goldrush!
seems you did some looking for yourself. Did you talk to the instructor? Looks like I have some reading to do. Thanks again!

I'll let you know what I find

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Best Wishes Phil

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