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Sore Throat
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736 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-28-2000 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those who question the likelihood of a government program of atmospheric modification should read the following:

"GEOENGINEERING: A CLIMATE CHANGE MANHATTAN PROJECT" -Deborah www.metatronics.net/lit/geo2.html#two

"Turning Down the Heat" -arkansas_skywatcher www.cosmiverse.com/space092101.html

"Edward Teller Advances Global Warming Cure" -bucky b www.ncpa.org/pi/enviro/envpd/pdenv125.html

"Climate Controls" -bucky b www.reason.com/9711/fe.benford.html

Then come on back and tell us why this just wouldn't, couldn't happen. Tell us why there is NO similarity between what thousands are observing and what has been proposed in detail.

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-29-2000 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what I like about you throat, you pay as much attention as my cats, you don't...

Weather can be influenced it is documented and has been done....

Not controlled, why don't you pull the path of the May 3 tornado in Oklahoma and look where it went.....

I'll be waiting

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Sore Throat
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posted 09-29-2000 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big difference between "influenced" and deliberate modification seeker.

At least you didn't tax yourself composing a response.

Did you even bother to read a single one of these references?

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-29-2000 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I posted that benford article long before you or anybody else even read it....fool....

Track the patern of that tornado throat....unless your.....chicken.....

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Nola30
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41 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-29-2000 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nola30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker, has it ever occured to you that other people have opinions? Or did I wake up in Russia this morning? I think you are very rude and insensitive to everyone who doesn't agree with you. You should also consider that you are not always right, no-one is.
As for the whole chemtrail issue , I really don't know what to believe anymore. I just know that it is not a good thing . Whenever , if ever- the truth of the whole matter comes out. I think that we are all in for one hell of a surprise. Also I think that man has done enough to the Earth without now trying to control the weather. Old Mother Earth has been doing a pretty damned good job for millions of years. All we have managed to do is mess up a good thing. We do not own this Earth , we are inhabitants of it. We depend upon it to keep us alive, not the other way around. You think we are in control? Ask the dinosaurs.


PPSS Also everyone knows that All Governments tell so many lies to the general public that they have a problem keeping up with their own lies.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Nola30 on 09-29-2000]

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-29-2000 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>I think you are very rude and insensitive to everyone who doesn't agree with you.<

and your point is nola ?

please try to contribute something next time ok ?

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Thermit
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2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-30-2000 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sore Throat,

This quote from Reason magazine article, linked in orginal post,

"Land reflects sunlight much better than the wine-dark seas, so putting clouds far out from land, and preferably in the tropics, gets the greatest leverage.",

implies that we would get the most bang for the buck by attempting atmospheric modications over the oceans. This seems logical and could be more discreet. But Trails are often observed over or upwind of population centers (yes, rural areas too) so why bug people with this if it would be better in many ways not to?

Also, none of these articles seem to mention the phenomenon of radiative forcing, in which these proposed particles not only block the energy coming in, but they also trap the energy that would have been released otherwise.

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-30-2000 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is important to note that the effects of "biomass burning" have more relation to global warming.

Damndest thing too, Throat was proclaiming Minnis had nothing of recently published since 1996.....

Contrails and radiative forcing : January 17, 2000 issue of Aviation Week & Space Technology.
http://www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/sass_con.html#con_radforc

BTW, nola, sorry for the above , high educated berkly greens as Throat is , really wear me out...If I seem testy , I will endeavor to chill......

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Sore Throat
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posted 09-30-2000 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite an amazing (and of course unsubstantiated) claim seeker. Bucky B was the first to post the Benford article.

What's next, that it was YOU that "invented" the Internet?

And speaking of fools seeker...

you do know the difference between "your" and "you're" don't you?

The issue with Minnis is that to my knowledge he has not followed up on his paper about the frequency of contrails across America which was covered in his in his 1997 article, "Patrick Minnis, J. Kirk Ayers and Steven P. Weaver, Surface-Based Observations of Contrail Occurrence Frequency Over the U.S., April 1993--April 1994 , NASA RP-1404, December 1997, pp. 83," which used data from 1993-94.

Don't you think it's time for NEW data seeker?

Or do you think?

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Sore Throat
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posted 09-30-2000 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thermit,

Good question. I am not convinced that there is a single purpose program underway. To date, the data do not support that conclusion.

We on the West Coast are well aware of spraying offshore and it is readily apparent in satellite photographs...

...unless you subscribe to the proposition of of 100 MPH "ship trails" being laid down overnight.

You should also ask Mark Sky and Kanuck about North Pacific cloud cover...white cloud cover.

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-30-2000 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>Bucky B was the first to post the Benford article.<

yea, at your buddy the 'kook' carnicom's maybe...remember I can't post there...duhhh..

Lotza boards out there pinhead....

>you do know the difference between "your" and "you're" don't you?<

Like I said high educated berkly greens, wear me out......

>What's next, that it was YOU that "invented" the Internet?<

Yea ! and I chopped down a cherry tree with my bare hands....and, and I was in the beatles too, I sang love me do,...I was the one with the well kempt hair...

your unbelievable ! it is you throat doing a classic klinton in your last paragraph....phooey.....

the info was there and you did not look !

Ha !

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Sore Throat
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posted 09-30-2000 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're quite full of yourself seeker.

The "occurance" data cited are from 93-94.

Like I've said, more recent contrail frequency data are needed.

You did read the article didn't you?

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theseeker
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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 09-30-2000 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your splitting hairs , maybe you haven't read all the new stuff at SASS.....

the new cdclistserver info is out...guess you don't know that either....

Ha ! ....again

still don't get it about the tornado do you.....shame....

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goldrush
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109 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-30-2000 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you know that Benford is well known for his science FICTION writing as well? Awards and everything.....

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Sore Throat
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736 posts, Sep 2000

posted 10-01-2000 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sore Throat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting that you point that out Goldrush.

Jules Verne also wrote science FICTION.

Remember 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? and Captain Nemo's submarine, the Nautilus?
Interesting that the US Navy's first nuclear powered sub was named the Nautilus.

Or how about his book, From Earth to Moon? Did you happen to read that FICTION?

Quite amazing actually how predictive such works of FICTION can be.

Unless of course, you're a member of the Flat Earth Society or one of those who believe that the moon landing was staged in a Hollywood set.

Yes actually, I could imagine that.

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