posted 10-22-2000 08:03 AM            

Let me hasten to tell you that I am not Elvis Lives. Mr. Lives, as one can tell from his cv, is an individual who is not only retired and able to golf, but actually enjoys that execrable "game". He lives in California, but seems a fine gentleman anyway.

I, on the other hand, am eight years from retirement, prefer music to hitting a small ball while wearing funny pants, and live in Mesa, Arizona, as can be determined from MY cv.

The aircraft in question is an A340 made by Airbus Industrie in Toulouse, France. It appears to be in the livery of Virgin Atlantic Airways. If that is the case, then the aircraft is undoubtedly an A340-300, one of several in the Virgin stable. Virgin has several orders for the A340-500 and -600 but, to the best of my knowledge, those aircraft have not been delivered yet.

I might add two comments. First, not knowing anything about the aircraft’s livery, I had to look up various configurations to determine who the owner was. Using a similar search engine, I was able to get the information I passed along to you. This whole effort took about ten minutes, and I’m quite sure you would have been able to retrieve the same information in a similarly short amount of time.

Second, I consider the tone of your request somewhat more brisk and less courteous than the situation warrants. I feel that if you can’t be bothered to look up such easily-acquired information as this that you must not be all that interested in it; regardless, a more courteous tone would have been greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Duncan Kunz / duncan.kunz@prodigy.net

posted 10-22-2000 11:02 AM            

It is quite similar to Virgin's markings.

posted 10-22-2000 04:32 PM            

My aggravation towards him was likewise based on his post at Carnicom lifted by Elvis.

It is difficult to remain emotionally detached from this issue when those around you are suffering from dibilitating respiratory illnesses...

...and in some cases dying prematurely at young ages from "unexplained causes".

I do not take such events lightly.

And I will continue to aggressively confront those whose sole purpose appears to be to purpetuate an illusion that nothing in our skies has changed in the past two years,

...that all is perfectly "normal".

posted 10-22-2000 07:03 PM            

I accept your apology, and understand that anyone (including myself, of course) who has strong beliefs tend to get possessive of them. I want to emphasize that, although I do not believe Chemtrails are anything but normal contrails whose abnormal looks are the result of increasing air pollution and more aircraft in the sky, I do NOT mean my comments to be an attack on any of those who sincerely believe differently. I hope that none of you take my comments as an attack. I believe that reasonable men can disagree and, by honestly airing their reasons for their beliefs, come to a better understanding of the world around them.

I also want to emphasize that I do not post under any 'handle' but Duncan Kunz (or 'Duncan_Kunz' where no spaces are allowed). I was first fitted with that handle on December 22, 1944, when Carl and Virginia Kunz -- my parents -- agreed if I were a boy, that would be my name.

I do not know what name I would've been sasddled with had I been a female; with my luck it would've been something like Griselda Theodora Kunz.

I have been posting on the Internet and dial-up BBSs long before that (probably since around 1985 or 19860). I have never used any name but my own. Several people have warned me against doing so, but in the thirteen years or so that I've been posting, I've never had anyone do anything worse than to call me an a$$hole or some variant thereof.

I am more than happy to communicate with anyone about chemtrails/contrails at their convenience. You may reach me at home (preferably) at duncan.kunz@prodigy.net; or at work at duncan.z.kunz@boeing.com; my daytime telephone number is 480-891-2525.

Let us continue our discussions; someday, I am sure, we will reach a conclusion together on what actually has happened and is happening.

Regards,

posted 10-22-2000 08:12 PM              

I know that it would satisfy me greatly to have the truth be affirmed, when congressmen who have actually made contrails during their military service testify as to what normal contrails are.

But for those who currently believe in "chemtrails", it will be quite disappointing.

Many people resent the participation of people who are skeptical of the chemtrail idea. However, bear in mind that the debates you might have within this forum pale in comparison to what you would encounter when
"chemtrail" promoters are asked to present actual evidence, and do not do so.

Likewise, imagine the weight of evidence when
real meteorologists, real airline pilots and real doctors are called and say "all is normal". Currently, such has been the case when journalists have independently sought and asked these sources.

In other words, consider the participation of people who disagree with you as a trial run for the main event, welcome their participation, don't attempt to silence them or else you lose your chance to practice.

posted 10-22-2000 09:22 PM            

This piqued my interest :

>But the thing that irritates me is the arrogance shown by some de-bunkers who presume to have a monopoly on truth (whatever that may be). I intend to show that this is not the case.<

I think the reason some come off as such is that you don't know them, or haven't associated with them, canex is probably the best on the all is normal side, because he is polite, and for sure knows what he is talking about.

Some people's thin skin bother's me cy, this forum and other's are much more fun when we can disagree, without profanity, but still get the blood pressure up....

Arrogance is quite amusing......You should post those questions you posted in reply to my post at christy's, over here,you will get what you were looking for here

my 2 cents