posted 10-27-2000 09:27 AM              

Anyways, a pickup pulled up in the drive(we live several rough miles off the main road), and a man and woman~ 65yrs old got out. They said they were looking for a lost dog, and I asked where they lived. Turns out they just moved into the second property up the creek from us in a small cabin. Since i had noticed a helicopter flying in that area during the afternoon I asked themwhat was going on?

The man got sort of cat who ate the canary look, a semi-embarrased smile, and said, "maybe they are spraying." I asked him, "who would be spraying what?"

He said, "have you heard of the chemtrails?"
I said, "yes, but i think it's a hoax."
he said, "They checked it out, it's all confirmed."
I said, "Who checked it out, did you check it out yourself, too?"
He hemmed and hawed a little, and his wife said, "I've seen the planes fling over spraying, leaving the trails, right over here," pointing up. he said, "In Fort Polk, Louisiana, they are spraying, it's been in the newspaper there. I heard about it on Alex Jone's show on shortwave radio.

I explained to him that the BG being used at Fort Polk was in the soil under our feet and was used to test their detection devices, that the soldiers have their families on the base and did he think they would "spray" their own families?(it's actually from a backpack sprayer, just like I use to spray biological bacillus thuringeinsis on my crops)). I explained to him that he really hadn't checked these things out, he shouldn't be spreading such a rumor, how an airway was directly aboveus, and how I had used Flight Explorer many times to identify the planes, and that they were airline flights.

He repeated several times that he doesn't trust the government, with which I agreed.

I told him that he should be just as as suspicious of anything he reads or hears on shortwave radio, just as suspicious as he is of government, because people are people, and
all are fallen.

They had never used the internet, and didn't recognize my name, either. I told them I look into the chemtrails matter often and could discuss it with them some more if they liked.
They had to keep looking for their dog.

Well, the folks went on their way, I promised to keep an eye out for their dog, and welcomed them to the neighborhood. I told them I fished the creek and might make it by their place someday.

They left.

posted 10-27-2000 01:25 PM            

Den Ardinger lives around Beaver County, Pa.
http://members.tripod.com/sonoguy/contrail.html

So, not everyone there takes chemtrails seriously!

posted 10-27-2000 09:40 PM            

...after not catching any fish, we had grilled Rover.

posted 10-28-2000 10:20 AM              

First, regarding, "Jay did you say you ran for some political office?"

I have never stated such a thing. I have never run for office. Such a thing could be confirmed at the county clerks office in the places I have met residency since reaching the age of majority.

Second, perhaps a clarification is needed. The Jehovah's Witnesses who came to my home said nothing about contrails. They were "believers" in the tenets of their religious faith, however, at least some of which is unprovable, that is what makes them "believers".

I found the comparison and contrast between the "chemtrail believers", who took on faith the word of a radio talk show host regarding "chemtrails", and the "Jehovah's Witnesses believers", who preceded them, remarkable. Both parties expected me to take on faith that the belief they held was true, though neither could prove it factually.

In the same way, I suppose, one might say that my story, which at least two of you
choose not to "believe", and one who only made a derogatory comment, requires taking the word of Jay Reynolds that it is true. However, if you were actually interested enough in my veracity to come to my home, I could show you the field now planted, we could seek out both sets of people referenced, and all could be confirmed. I don't expect you will ever do so.

Instead, you chose to attack my veracity with no proof, and no intention of seeking such proof, for your own purposes which appear to be provocative and intended soley to either begin yet another false rumor about me, or to
sway the opinions of others whom you hope would never bother to actually find the truth.

Since yesterday, Thermit has had full knowledge of who I am, my address, and my telephone number. I will share the same information with anyone else willing to do likeewise, and we can talk about anything you like by phone or in person at my home should you care to do so.

I am currently making my best attempt to refrain from any statements that might be considered a "personal attack". Please do likwise, stick to what is factual, provable, documentable, verifiable, and confirmable.
===============================

To LTC, When Ardinger's posting came up, I checked the name also. I am aware of the hoax site you mention, the proximity of Ardinger to that location, and the possibility that it is a hoax. I have not taken the time to call him up, or ask "sonoguy" about it. It would not be the first and certainly will not be the last time that Rense&co posted unverified hoax material. The last occasion i caught him doing so was a letter about "chemtrail/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" supposedly written by Phyllis Schlafly of eagleforum. i contacted her and found that she indeed had not written the text falsely attributed to her. She asked Rense to remove her name, which no longer appears at the rense site, and wrote to thank me.

Unfortunately, few "chemtrail" believers are willing to actually check out such things, and I never have time to do so for all these stories, there is only one of me.
===============================
In case anyone wants to know who I am, here is a brief bio that was on my website. Should you wish to confirm this, I will supply references by email.

About Jay Reynolds
Jay Reynolds was born in Dallas,
Texas during the summer of 1955,
and spent his childhood there. During that time, he developed a love of reading and observation. From an early age, he worked in the family business building municipal water systems and industrial buildings, and a working knowledge of many trades. His parents instilled in him a strong work ethic and moral values, and he became fluent in the Spanish language.

He attended the Texas Maritime Academy of Texas A&M University at Galveston, TX, graduating in 1977 with a Bachelor of Science degree in Marine Engineering. During that time, he was able to travel worldwide and qualified to become a Third Assistant Ship's Engineer, Steam/Diesel, Unlimited Horsepower.
His studies at the University included all engineering disciplines, with heavy emphasis on power generation and marine propulsion systems, and also oceanography, meteorology, and navigation.
After graduation, he received further training and became a Field Service Engineer for the General Electric Corporation, working on the Texas gulf coast providing technical direction in both construction and maintenance of large steam and gas turbines and shipboard engines. He also traveled widely in Central America. In 1979, seeking further opportunity, he moved to the island of St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands, and joined the Hess Oil Virgin Islands Corporation, where he was employed as a Gas Turbine Engineer and supervised maintenance of nine gas turbine power generators with waste heat recovery boilers at one of the world's largest oil refineries.
On St. Croix, and in subsequent travels around the Caribbean, he became an accomplished diver, spearfisherman, and sailor, and immersed himself in West Indian culture. Eventually, a home garden grew to become a full-time enterprise which was called "Blue Chips Farm", a farm which produced organically grown tropical fruits and vegetables. This operation, with the able assistance of his beautiful wife, Karen, was expanded when he developed a cannery operation to create gourmet quality preserves and sauces, which were marketed to the tourist trade. Blue Chips consistently won prizes at local fairs and their products were sold throughout the islands and by mail-order.

In 1989, Blue Chips was featured in Organic Gardening magazine for it's innovative system of alternating crop beds with permanent mulch generating strips thus supplying organic matter, mulch, reducing erosion, and slowing evapotranspiration. During off seasons, Jay continued his engineering work off the farm as Port Engineer for General Offshore Corporation, which performed quality control testing of U.S. Navy antisubmarine detection devices.
On September 19, 1989, St.Croix was devastated by Hurricane Hugo, a powerful category 5 hurricane that completely devastated the island. The damage was further accomplished by widespread looting in the aftermath. After total destruction of the farm and the island's economy, Jay was asked to return to the Hess Oil refinery during their rebuilding, this time working as Fired Boiler Supervising Engineer, where he continued for the next two years.
In 1992, the Reynolds repatriated to the United States mainland and purchased property to begin development of a self-sufficient homestead in the midwest. They have restored a 120 year old log cabin and built barns and outbuildings. Current efforts are nearing completion of a super-insulated Victorian style home built using native stone and the slip-form method. Soil is being built up using large amounts of organic matter and legume crops, and orchard trees have been planted. Their family now includes two children, some small animals, and a secure location to live, with timber, bottomland, a creek, and a free-flowing spring.
Upon returning from 12 years offshore, Jay was astonished at the changes he found in his nation. The loss of American rights, the submersion of sovereignty, lowering of educational achievement, and the decline of America's preeminence in manufacturing were especially troubling. Seeking answers and solutions, he allied with William Cooper, a great American who has been documenting these changes and their possible outcomes. Jay's research has helped in the production of a newspaper, VERITAS, the Harvest-Trust website, and Mr. Cooper's nightly broadcast "The Hour of the Time". His writing has been featured on several websites and newspapers, and he hopes to provide the best information possible, fully documented and verifiable by any reader. He is willing to listen to all viewpoints and strives to establish reality based on factual information and logical analysis. His work has been completely without remuneration and is for the benefit of all.

posted 10-28-2000 02:11 PM              

I will not agree to remain silent regarding anyone's claims which are provably false, inadequate, or deceptive, just because they choose to remain behind the veil and not enter debate or respond. To do so allows hypocrisy, deception and false information to stand unchallenged.

Advocation of silence, or considering a false claim irrelevant, allows evil to prosper through acquiescence and default.

Call it an attack if you like, but I will never tolerate such things to be perpetrated. I will not be silent in such a case. I will find the truth, as well as the deception, and expose those perpetrators. To do otherwise is morally bankrupt.

Such inaction has put far too many spinning around the flotsam and jetsam that abounds within this controversy, perpetuating it to the detriment of truth and to the benefit of a few. To stand out from the crowd entails risks few seem willing to chance, but which I relish.

posted 10-29-2000 08:38 AM              

His idea is frankly preposterous, and though you contended that he documents everything,
upon my request you were obviously not able to show documentation for his reasoning, or
willing to respond to my request that you test his idea.

By your lack of response, you defaulted.
Of course, he may be able to document some claims in his book, but as you say, that is "irrelevant" considering his past actions :

1. The Dominican Republic ebola hoax he perpetrated, which I investigated myself,
and he later retracted.
2. His obvious and irresponsible idea regarding ph chemistry.
3. I am also investigating his claim that bacteria/viral infection is indicated by body temperature elevation while fungal infection is indicated by sub-normal body temperature.
So far, the three registered and degreed nurses, including one instructor of nursing, and two nurse/anaesthetists find THAT idea oversimplified and preposterous as well.
More to come.

posted 10-29-2000 04:26 PM            

Sorry Jay, but I think you owe Horowitz an apology.

No other fruit, not even in the citrus group, can compare to the valuable properties of a lemon. Lemons are an antiseptic purifier, cleanser, and neutralizer. A lemon may taste acid, but in fact it neutralizes other acids, as it is highly alkaline-producing!

I use lemon to relieve heartburn. A chef friend of mineuses lemon to remove onion and garlic off of hands. You can use lemon to rid hangovers (alcohol acidifies the body), disinfect cuts, and sooth pains.

Christy

posted 10-29-2000 04:55 PM            

Good for hangovers ?

posted 10-30-2000 01:14 AM            

Article 6 of 8; 369 words
Published on 10/01/2000, Page B1 , THE KANSAS CITY STAR

STORE EMPLOYEE FATALLY SHOT

Source: GLENN E. RICE
THE KANSAS CITY STAR
A worker at a south Kansas City audio store was fatally shot Saturday morning during what homicide investigators think might have been an attempted robbery.

Police were called to Extreme Audio at 8223 Wornall Road about 10:30 a.m. after witnesses saw a man sprawled on the pavement in front of the store.

this can be found at this link
http://www.kcstar.com/newslibrary/

posted 10-30-2000 02:06 AM            

Biomass: liar, hoaxer and obviously an insane terrorist...

Interesting....This is what I got from your link sir, You seem to be accusing someone of involvement in a murder with no proof ????

You have encountered an error

Error :

Your search could not be performed because your web session could not be initialized!

Possible Cause/Solution:

You may have bookmarked this page or typed in the URL directly. If not, your referrer's search page's URL may have changed or has been entered incorrectly in our internal database.[Referrer = http://newslibrary.krmediastream.com/cgi-bin/search/kc]

I personally sir think your full of shit...sir...

regardz

posted 10-30-2000 11:33 AM            

So xxxxxx is in bed with carnicom huh. The fact that carnicom featured the Mechanic's Statement and the Airline Manager's Statement as exclusive stories on his web site would indicate fraud has taken place here.

posted 10-30-2000 02:03 PM              

I received a Bachelor of Science degree in Marine Enginering from Texas A&M University in 1977. I was born John Boyd Reynolds, Jr., and called Jay since birth.

This can be verified by contacting the records department http://www.tamu.edu/admissions/records/records.html
Student Records
Heaton Hall, Room 112
Telephone (979) 845-1003
Fax (979) 845-0727

Anyone wishing to move forward in history to confirm my whereabouts 1979-1992 could contact The Honorable Arthur C. Petersen, Jr., Ph.D. - Commissioner of Agriculture of the United States Virgin Islands: http://www.gov.vi/agri/

Anyone wishing to confirm my current position as Central Bureau Chief with Veritas News Service can contact William Cooper, Publisher: http://williamcooper.com

Anyone wishing more personal information
about me should prepare to share with me an equal amount of their own as well, which I can and will verify.

How's that for full disclosure, anonymous
name callers?

Jay Reynolds

P.S: I forgot another of xxxxxx's hoaxes, he created one called the "aerosol Pilot",with a supposed recording of a radio transmission: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/text/spay08x.htm