posted 11-03-2000 12:34 PM            

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ckznyder (CTTUSA 41116)

You can see the sprayers on the plane. This will be posted on Rense's site but here is a preview of plane.

"This is a picture of one of the planes that has been spraying us here in Portland, Oregon. I have circled the ports they use to spray. They are sending up to 8 planes at a time over us. They are using short bursts as
well as the long line drops. We watched this plane drop on us on Monday of this week. These planes come and go a lot as well as heavy chopper activity at the Portland Air Base. We will continue to monitor activity and put it up as it happens."

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posted 11-03-2000 02:01 PM            

thingy's for moving the flaps?

courtesy of boeing :

posted 11-03-2000 06:30 PM              

"The type is an MD-80 (used to be DC-9 when made by
the Douglass Corp, taken over, now McDonnell Douglass),
the 'vents' near the tail are for cooling internal systems,
and there's an APU (Auxilliary Power Unit) on board too.
These are mini gas-turbines, & provide power for electrics
when no ground-power plug-in is available. All airliners &
Mil transports have these, usually near the tail somewhere.

The lumps under the wings are Flap Track Fairings, they house
the screw-jacks/hydraulics that help drop the flaps out into the
airstream, under & behind the wings, for added lift/drag as required,
usually some flap on take-off, lots of flap for landing...

posted 11-03-2000 07:15 PM            

"The first thing to clear up is that this plane is not a DC9 it is smaller. It is run by Evergreen Air. It is parked away from the main terminal and very near the Air Base at the east end of PDX. These planes are in and out all the time. They refill only late at night and they are using regular tanker trucks as the chemical carrier so as not to draw attention to their activity. I watched this very plane on Monday spray over the Portland Area around 4:00pm. Evergreen Air is a CIA front group much as Air America was during Vietnam. Evergreen Air is a worldwide company that along with World Air gets most of the covert government contracts worldwide. Their is a lot of helicopter activity all day long at the air base. They come out of the north probably from Mc Chord Air Base which is another base for these planes as is Klamath Falls.

posted 11-26-2000 09:54 PM            

So maybe it's owned by Evergreen and operated by CIA?...or vice versa?

excerpt from...
http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco/Brfmedia.htm (Evergreen International Aviation & CIA)

WHO IS DOING THE SPRAYING?

A clue to this key question was presented by investigative reporter John Titus. In his updated story, "Who’s Who in the C-130 Scandal," published in the March/April 1997 edition of the Portland Free Press, Titus documents the diversion of an estimated 42 former Navy P-3 Orions and spray-equipped Air Force C-130's from firefighting duties with the U.S. Forest Service to the CIA.

According to Titus, "after leaving the Air Force, Roy Reagan used a network of contacts to successfully broker former military aircraft on the open market."

At least one C-130 obtained by Reagan in 1986 was sold to CIA operatives after former director of the Forest Service aviation program, Fred Fuchs and Reagan diverted spray-equipped C-130s to Evergreen Aviation. This "front company" for CIA aviation was established in 1975 at Marana, Arizona.

Titus also learned that "Top CIA aviation officers, including the legendary George Doole, worked for Evergreen. Prior to working for Evergreen, Doole had managed all of the CIA's proprietary airlines."

C-130s have been used by the CIA for drug smuggling to procure arms for the Contra terrorists and other covert operators. As Titus reveals, "Tail number N69-P operated on contract for the U.S. military's Nuclear Defense Agency and was later busted by the DEA in Miami, Florida, on a cocaine smuggling mission."

_________________________________

If this is true, then it has been established that the CIA does run secret illegal operations and has used C-130 spray planes (for drug-smuggling).

I also found the official Evergreen Aviation website that states they are involved in "humanitarian" missions(?);

http://www.evergreenaviation.com/

More on recent RICO convictions against Evergreen Aviation & CIA drug trafficking;
http://www.bobkarolrico-informant.com/13.html

note:their website shows they operate aircraft as large as 747's

posted 12-22-2000 05:12 PM            

Humanitarian Efforts

"Humanitarian support and peace-keeping missions have occupied many of the company's aircraft. Evergreen's helicopters manned with highly trained crews have built trans-continental power lines in Sweden, conducted research in the Antarctica, and reforestation programs in vast proportions.
Working for the United Nations World Health Organization on the 20-year onchocerciasis program to eradicate the black fly, the cause of river blindness in thirteen African countries, has been a project of skill, love and dedication."

posted 01-04-2001 12:34 AM            

If so, the operational links between Evergreen/CIA and the U.N., (even if they don't involve chemtrails) may be a good example of NWO operations in practice today.

Narco-trafficking & weapons smuggling fund black operations regardless of legitimate government funding. Drugs & subsequent "war on drugs" are used to control the population by creating an automatic or built-in 'criminal element' that authorities can use to justify increased paramilitary control and suppression. This would also fit in very well with a NWO scenario.

posted 01-31-2001 07:39 PM            

The band is shown performing on a runway...in one shot we see a very brief glimpse of one of the airliners (several of them landing/taking off within a few feet of the band...special effects), but in one shot, you can see the tail section of one of the airliners with an evergreen tree painted on it's side.

If you get a chance, watch it closely.

Just an observation I had to mention in light of this forums Evergreen Aviation references.

posted 02-18-2001 06:04 PM            

Just a follow up on the U2 video "Beautiful Day", one of the lyrics goes;

"You've been all over, and it's been all over you."

Maybe a reference to being sprayed?

Here are more of the lyrics;
____________________________________________
You're on the road but you've got no destination
You're in the mud, in the maze of her imagination

You love this town even if it doesn't ring true, you've been all over and it's been all over you

It's a beautiful day
Don't let it get away
It's a beautiful day
Don't let it get away

Touch me, take me to that other place
Teach me, I know I'm not a hopeless case

See the world in green and blue
See China right in front of you
See the canyons broken by cloud
See the tuna fleets clearing the sea out
See the bedouin fires at night
See the oil fields at first light
See the bird with a leaf in her mouth

After the flood all the colours came out
It was a beautiful day
A beautiful day
Don't let it get away

Touch me, take me to that other place
Reach me, I know I'm not a hopeless case

What you don't have you don't need it now
What you don't know you can feel it somehow
What you don't have you don't need it now
You don't need it now, you don't need it now
Beautiful day
____________________________________________

Maybe it's nothing, but the "evergreen" on the tail section is clearly visible for an instant in the last 20 seconds or so of the video.

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posted 03-10-2001 09:59 AM            

The case is sealed except for a small hole that connects a tube to the static port of the aircraft. The static port is simply a hole on the outside of the aircraft usually flush with the fuselage. It doesn't pick up ram air (kinetic energy) like the pitot tube, but rather, the ambient air pressure and it translates this pressure through the tube to the altimeter case which equalizes with outside air pressure. This pressure in the altimeter case is the variable whereas the pressure within the aneroid wafers is the constant.

As the aircraft climbs in altitude, the ambient air pressure decreases which causes the aneroid wafers within the altimeter case to expand. This expansion is measured through a connected series of mechanical linkages and levers which turn gears which are connected to the altitude pointers that the pilot sees on the face of the altimeter dial.

There are usually three pointers that indicate increases in 100's of feet 1000's of feet and 10,000's of feet respectively. The pilot can adjust the instrument for accuracy by turning a knob which sets the atimeter at the current airport pressure setting (adjusted to sealevel). 29.92 in Hg. is standard sea level pressure, but the actual pressure is of course, usually higher or lower than this, and the pilot sets this reading in a small window in the altimeter's dial. Altimeters come from the factory calibrated to read true altitude at standard sealevel temperature and pressure, and a calibration knob on the lower left is used to adjust for non-standard pressure. As you set this, you can visually observe the 100 feet pointer move.

The altimeter setting is usually gained from the control tower, ATIS (airport terminal information service) or a FSS (flight service station enroute). Above 18,000 feet MSL the pilot sets the altimeter window to 29.92...


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posted 03-11-2001 08:23 PM            

The glass in the face makes up part of the seal usually set into place with a rubber grommet, so that basically the only air that is able to enter the case comes from the outside static port.

If the outside port were to become iced over or clogged, now of course, the altimeter will not be able to measure changes as the aircraft changes altitude since the pressure at which the icing or clog occurred will remain trapped in the system and the pressure within the case will not be able to equalize with the outside ambient air pressure. The altimeter needles would be, in effect, locked at the altitude where the clog occurred regardless if the aircraft climbs or descends.

In this situation, it was usually recommended that pilots of non-pressurized aircraft break the glass on the face of the altimeter (or better yet, the vertical speed indicator VSI, since this is the least important of the pressure sensing instruments) . This allows air from the cabin to enter the altimeter case either directly or through the other instrument in which the glass is broken, and the altimeter will once again read accurate altitude (assuming that the pressure inside the cabin is equal to outside air pressure). Obviously, in a pressurized aircraft, this practice would not be of help.

This illustrates that the glass on the altimeter case, and the other pressure sensing instruments is a component that plays a part in the seal.

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