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Topic: New 'Debate and Debunking' Forum | Topic page views:
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 11-14-2000 09:46 AM
   
A new forum has been created for those that wish to debate the reality of Chemtrails.Also, all debunking of any type must be done in this forum. Topics may be moved to this forum as I see fit. Debunking replies to topics in other forums must be made in the newly created Debate forum, where the subject matter may be quoted or linked to and then responded to. Individual replies can't be moved, so violations of this organization will be deleted. Replies that contain disdainful content are not encouraged and will also be deleted outside of the new Debate forum. This organization is in response to the sometimes hostile nature of the forums which has discouraged new members and existing members from sharing their observations and views. Thanks for your cooperation. 
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JayReynolds
unregistered
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posted 11-14-2000 01:43 PM
Are the following definitions acceptable?debate: discuss a question by argument debunk: expose as false from Webster's Compact Dictionary
1987, Merriam-Webster Please respond with your preferred definition, if not acceptable. Jay Reynolds 64.91.3.65 |
JayReynolds
unregistered
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posted 11-14-2000 08:51 PM
The lack of response by the board moderator indicates that discussion of false information contained in this forum cannot take place within the context that it is presented, but only elsewhere.The reality here is that false information will be disseminated freely within one forum, and that contradictory, but factual, information is not permitted within the same forum. I understand why this has been done, for the truth conquers all lies, at least so long as the truth is silenced, muffled, hidden. It saddens me to see this messageboard go the way of all the rest, but power corrupts, doesn't it? I will not be a party to such ghettoization of the truth. I'm out. May God save you, because I cannot,
Jay Reynolds 209.142.167.66 |
Duncan Kunz
Senior Member
582 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 11-15-2000 12:29 AM
Dear Mr. Thermit:It seems to me that, inasmuch as you seem to define ‘debunking’ as arguing against the belief that contrails are a secret plot of some kind, you have banished anyone who questions the politically correct belief of The Plot to a small area. From what I understand, we skeptics are free to say whatever we want, as long as we stay in our room. You claim that the “organization is in response to the sometimes hostile nature of the forums….” I certainly understand that the “nature of the forums” has been, on occasion, hostile, but this hostility is certainly not the sole purview of skeptics. Indeed, it appears that many of the insults have come from the chem-trail proponents; I do not seem them banished to the basement. Indeed, it is not the free-ranging and somewhat rude comments which has “discouraged new members and existing members from sharing their observations and views”; it is the marginalization and censorship which Mr. Carnicom and now you have placed on politically-incorrect views such as those of Mr. Reynolds. You may do so, of course; this is your board, just as carnicom.com is the property of Mr. Carnicom and Tienanmen Square the property of Mr. Zhang Yemin. My belief is that, absent the ability to freely post one’s views, your site will sink to the level of Mr. Carnicom’s, which has, by now, become a hotbed of paranoiacs. However, that is, as I said before, your call. Since I am no longer encouraged or even permitted to air my views except in your data-ghetto, I shall neither visit nor contribute to this forum. Duncan Kunz.
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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 11-15-2000 06:18 AM
So, if someone posts something that I believe is false under Chemtrail & Related, or under Chemtrail Stories, I can only disagree with it in a different Debate & Debunking forum where no chemtrail believers will ever look to find my objections?How conveeeeeeeeeeeenient! I might as well not bother then. Welcome to Cliff's world.
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Crazy Larry
New Member
New York
9 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 11-16-2000 08:23 AM
This is an excellent idea. Seperate the children when they fight. Give them there own room. The only bad thing is, John won't be able to taunt and harrass people so he is quiting. NOT, this is probably the hundredth time he has threatened to quit or said he is quiting only to surface under an alias and then exposing himself. Saying I told ya so. Addicted to chemtrails John? LOL You know you can't quit, your hooked like a junky. FEED ME! LOL. Mr. Kunz on the other hand has been more than respectable in his postings. I would encourage him to stick around and express his views in the proper forum. Just as he reads what the opponents are posting, they will be reading what he is posting, who knows it may sink in. Noone has tried this style of BBing before Thermit, give it a shot and see if it works.John Reynolds, it has come to my attention that the furniture industry is using unknown fiber material in there products. I have looked on the tags of several sofa and recliner manufacturers and found them to contain unknown fibers which may be hazardous and or dangerous. Maybe you can expand your addiction to this field.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 11-16-2000 06:43 PM
Seems like a good idea Thermit
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 11-16-2000 07:08 PM
Thanks.I disagree with the idea that no one will see it, the new Debate forum gets just as many views as this forum as you can see from the "Who's Online" feature. It's not really a ghetto or basement, more of an organization. I would hate to see this forum lose Duncan or LTC for this reason. I was looking forward to some more good debate. The debate should make the new forum the most interesting! Yeah, maybe it's not perfect, but it ain't that bad. Anyway, I hope y'all stay, but if it is still unacceptable then I apologize and thank you for your previous participation.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 11-17-2000 03:25 AM
Oh Boy Thermit !>Also, all debunking of any type must be done in this forum. Topics may be moved to this forum as I see fit.< So if I disagree with Christy's choice of stripes to solids in a dress I have to reply in another forum ? >Individual replies can't be moved, so violations of this organization will be deleted< Guess falcon (pompass bastard) was right ! Thermit, you seem to be caught in the middle ? You mentioned a "hit and run" style of poster who would that be ? You also mention a one way thinking of some here...well if truth and honesty is one way thinking I guess I am guilty...... I could not disagree more with this decision and will post when I see fit until banned....I guess.....that's your call.... Deb is right in a certain way , your being had in a 'green scheme'..... Air traffic coridors is all you see.... Chemtrails as portrayed is a lie.... ack ! ------------------
T/S
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 11-17-2000 10:14 AM
Hey Seeker.
I knew you wouldn't like it, you purist you.
No, stripes and solids are fair game anywhere, I guess, maybe we need a fashion forum? I don't doubt that you and most everybody here are being truthful in their messages and true to themselves, but there is still disagreement. Some find the disagreement disagreeable, some find it stimulating. Let each have their space, out of simple respect.
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Swedishoo
Vigilante
North Pinellas County, Florida
280 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 11-17-2000 09:06 PM
I guess I'm partial to solids. Debate anyone?I like seeing subjects in catagories. Makes is easier to find the threads one wants to read. Some people don't give a rats ass if debating is going on and would rather skip it, and other's prefer it. Thermit hasn't omitted anything, only added easy-to-read features. I like it. Christy
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 11-18-2000 02:36 AM
Well, well.....Let me introduce what's left of this contingent, to vec (biomass)...aka 'crazy larry'... Vec (biomass) is what is most commonly known as a 'hump'....Christy you might use assh*le, or something to that effect...but none the less that is what he is....a liar,a person who is not beyond threatening people's lives, and has done so,a truly sick individual..... If I were Jay I would re-register and pick you (vec) apart.... Considering no one has come forward in the "afraid to post because of Jay Reynolds crowd" I must deem this board on the decline and soon to be dead.... No doubt Thermit some communication or complaints from vec helped you make you decision....and that is unfortunate.... vec (biomass), providing you can remember which poster you are,like all those over at carnicom you invented, and have a few here I'm sure of, please, at your convience, prove you are not vec.... You can't...I already know that.... When I get some time...I will send Thermit your IP's and a brief text version of your character , so he atleast will not be decieved..... 
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T/S
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BONG HITS
New Member
Cranford, NJ 07016
12 posts, Nov 2000
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posted 11-19-2000 12:03 AM
Perhaps someone should post the Vec page again to warn others of the freak.
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nodebbunker
Senior Member
Indiana USA
200 posts, Nov 2000
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posted 11-19-2000 07:36 AM
Post removed by Deb
[Edited 2 times, lastly by nodebbunker on 11-19-2000]
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Crazy Larry
New Member
New York
9 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 11-20-2000 08:27 AM
Post a number where I can get ahold of you Seeker and tell me who to ask for and I will prove it. I will tell you just as much as you tell me. Let's keep it in this message so everyone can see it who posts here. Whats wrong are ya chicken? You seem pretty quick to ask about others information, lets see what "The Seeker" is hiding, I bet your chicken. Post the number and I will call you.PS. This message is for seeker, others need not post their number, I will not call them only The Seeker and when I call him I will give him my number to verify I am Larry Jones in New York.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 11-20-2000 12:29 PM
>Post a number where I can get ahold of you Seeker and tell me who to ask for and I will prove it. <My e-mail is posted everywhere... >I will not call them only The Seeker and when I call him I will give him my number to verify I am Larry Jones in New York.< I need no proof really, like I said I already know.... I only need to 'believe'.... >Post the number and I will call you.< Let's take a vote and find out who is actually stupid enough to post their home phone number here.... You are a joke ....
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T/S
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gary
New Member
Tacoma Wa
2 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 03-01-2002 02:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BONG HITS:
Perhaps someone should post the Vec page again to warn others of the freak.
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gary
New Member
Tacoma Wa
2 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 03-01-2002 03:14 PM
The sky is totally fild in this morning 'there is light activity in what appears to be an attempt to fill in the void's.I did see one trail at 9:45 am that had the black shade .It is hard to say what exactly causes this effect but it almost appeares to be a shadow from engine exaust of the jet that laid the trail.Tacoma 3\1\02------------------
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Optik
New Member
33 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 03-07-2002 01:21 PM
Thermit is correct. If you want to debate the existance of unnatural weather modification, it should have a seperate board. But I will have to warn you that there is just to much evidence available to the public domain that suggests not only possible but a goal. And if there is a goal that is publicly known and lied about at the same time you have something that cannot stand! Therefore it will fall like a Kingdom divided against itself. Debate belongs in a debate room, chemtrail research belongs in a chemtrail room , plain and simple. If you dont like it and leave , thats fine and dandy because it wont make us leave.
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