posted 11-30-2000 01:05 PM            

Since I've been aware of them, I've seen them (the ones that seem unusual) 7-8 times here in Iowa City, including tic-tac-toe and x-patterns, "sky chromosomes" and formation of 3 large aircraft flying abreast. When I was a kid in the '60's and for most of my adult life, I remember contrails that I am sure were nothing like those I've seen this year. I've seen anomolies in photos on the internet that are very questionable (like the sky chromosomes photo in one of these forums), you might say they have been doctored or digitally altered in some way, and thats not my area of expertise, but I doubt thats the case. I do know what I've seen with my own eyes.

As for my speculation on what they might be, you can find my posts are all over this website. There is an historical precedent for airborne biological warfare attacks that is a matter of historical record and not speculation, just as there is common knowledge of crop/insecticide spraying. But as I've said before, this is a new phenom to me. I don't KNOW what they are any more than you do.

I hope we can maintain this forum for the topic it was created for?

posted 11-30-2000 02:48 PM            

His post in answer was "So now your changing questions on me with the edit button after seeing my response?
XXXX XXX! debunker

Your not worth any more of my time."

And this is what I changed it to in repsonse to his post above that said he didn't know what chemtrails were any more than I do -

posted 11-30-2000 02:57 PM            

XXXX XXX! debunker

posted 11-30-2000 07:44 PM            

Not only do you switch answers and questions in midstream, you also take my response out of context. Talk about disinformation!

You must be geographically challenged if you're really from Indiana and never heard of Iowa City. Are YOU really from Indiana?

You're only making my point about debunkers using tactics like, blind-siding, filibustering, side-stepping (changing subjects), etc. by these recent responses.

Thanks.

Even your name is disinformation. You should take off the 'no' in debunker, but that would defeat the purpose wouldn't it?

By the way, you spelled Skolnick wrong.

Strangely enough, we probably do agree on more than you think. Maybe you're just a Kloset Klintonite?...upset with my postings in "Bush Wins"?

posted 11-30-2000 08:48 PM            

>"Not only do you switch answers and questions in midstream, you also take my response out of context. Talk about disinformation!'<

Yep, I'm good!

>"Are YOU really from Indiana?"<

No, I'm really from Chicago but have been in Indiana for 10 years. Just a stop-over while travelling the road of life.

>"You're only making my point about debunkers using tactics like, blind-siding, filibustering, side-stepping (changing subjects), etc. by these recent responses. "<

No actually, you're doing a good job of twisting. I changed my post because it sounded too smart-ass, however, you were on the board, saw it, posted your expletive deleted as I was in the edit mode changing it.

>"Even your name is disinformation. You should take off the 'no' in debunker, but that would defeat the purpose wouldn't it?"<

Actually, and this can be verified easily, my name is Deb. Because I stated a truth regarding contrails after a year's participation in another forum, I was labelled as a debunker and a sleeping operative as well as banned. Some people find it annoying when the truth doesn't fit their agenda. So, when I came over to this forum, I changed my moniker from Chickie Deb, to No-Deb-Bunker, just a housewife from Indiana, which I am except I work part-time in a pharmacy. I know several people who post here quite well. I can be found in the White pages on the net and have never hidden my true identity from anyone. And yes, spellcheck on this board would be a blessing, however, I do my best, say what I have to say and as long as the point gets acrossed, I don't care about spelling, punctuation or whatever.

>"Strangely enough, we probably do agree on more than you think. Maybe you're just a Kloset Klintonite?...upset with my postings in "Bush Wins"?"<

Unless I reply to you directly, using your moniker, defender, I probably didn't even read your post. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I would rather have your direct implication of 4 letter words as above then refer to me as a Kloset Klintonite. Why do you continue to provoke me with accusations such as this?

Actually defender, I was hoping you meant what you said and would let it go at that. . .

>"XXXX XXX! debunker You're not worth any more of my time. (...I'll try not to use such big words next time.)"<

Big words, all right. Please don't waste any more time on me.

posted 11-30-2000 08:53 PM            

At least you admitted to being a liar.

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>"Not only do you switch answers and questions in midstream, you also take my response out of context. Talk about disinformation!'<

Yep, I'm good!

___________________________________________

Your purpose, as a "debunker" is to disrupt real efforts to get to the truth in the case of chemtrails.

I just read your post in Bush Wins... if you're really a Skolnick fan, you can't be all bad. If you can face the facts and accept that so many conspiracy "theories" are really fact, how can you be so naive to the idea that chemtrails are a conspiracy (good or bad)?

Your last post is telling. I hope you don't delete it.

and, for the record...when you quoted me as saying that neither of us knows what a CHEMTRAIL is, you changed terminology AGAIN and said you're some kind of expert at identifying a CONTRAIL.

posted 11-30-2000 09:48 PM            

There is always common ground no matter how diverse the ideas. Agreement in Ideals is more important than Ideas.

quote:

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spellcheck on this board would be a blessing

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posted 12-01-2000 12:13 AM            

It's hard to follow because she removes statements she's made after seeing my responses that prove she is wrong!

I make a lot of mistakes at spelling so I edit alot. Force of habit I guess. One thing is for sure, I am spending way too much time here. Didn't realize I'd have to "defend" myelf so often.

posted 12-01-2000 12:20 AM            

If you can't spell join the club just proof read your posts I do and still miss stuff, nobody should pick on you for spelling...unless your mark sky and then that's different, he does not even try....

use your e-mail spell check,then cut and paste it here....

posted 12-01-2000 12:30 AM            

LOL !!!!

posted 12-01-2000 06:59 PM            

First of all, I'm in no contest with anyone. I just happened to be enough of a loser to have time to saerch the patent office for 60 plus hours and then finding numerous interesting patents. I sent them to Will Thomas, Veterans for Government Accountability, Art Bell and a few other places I can't remember. This was in March of 1999. I also searched a ton of NASA sites, but back then there was only one chemtrail site, which was Wm. Thomas site.

Does this make me great? No, it just proves I have no life, therefore giving me the time to do this monotonous research.

Anyways, I think some people here need to do a little research. Not on chemtrails, but on who really runs this country. I will supply the starting point in my next post.

posted 12-02-2000 02:35 AM            

I certainly don't consider research ,and reading a waste of time or a person that does so a "loser"....

This comment:

>The patent I posted is at chemtrails.org and he credits me for finding it. I found this and many other patents in March of 1999. Unfortunatly Will Thomas was the only site dicussing chemtrails, not counting a few discussion forums.<

Seems brazen and thus my reply....I was invloved about a month before march 99'...although not in a pro-active state, I also remember chuck warren and 'strangehaze' had sites up. I seen strangehaze first and found contrail/connection after the board change....
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb540458&MyNum=93067032 8&P=Yes&TL=930633941

Griff psted there a 'larry wanye harris' deciple, harris has been traced back to the original "there spraying you" with pathogens and bio-logical weapons.....

Which was way before 2/99 when carnicom became a chemtrail activist.

posted 12-02-2000 01:43 PM            

Contrail Connection was not up yet, as I believe it started on March 21.

Anyways, I doubt anyone here cares, so I will stop this now.

I am so frustrated by many of the people I know, whom have heard me talk about chemtrails for over 18 months, yet they drive to work on heavy chem days, then drive home again, and guess what. They didn't even notice the chemtrails becuase they had too much on their minds. They were too busy to look up. Even on days where people are not working, many just forget to look up.

Makes me sick.

Brent

posted 12-11-2000 12:47 PM            

I have not paid much attention to any other news stories but that one.
I have managed to keep up with other news, just as I always do.
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posted 12-13-2000 09:09 AM            

Jesse Jackson got whammed by an excellent editorial from J.J. Johnson of the Sierra Times, also a black man. http://www.sightings.com/general6/jackson.htm

Edited for addition:
http://www.boortz.com/nealznuz.htm
MEDIA SPIN

All morning long I have been listening to Charlie Gibson, Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric and the like talk about the "deep division" in the U.S. Supreme Court. There was virtually no discussion of the 7 to 2 decision that the manner of recounting votes in Florida established by the Florida Supreme Court were unconstitutional.

What was the big dissent? It wasn't that the recount was unconstitutional ... it was over the question of whether or not there was still time for the Florida Supreme Court to make a third attempt to get it right. The majority of the court concluded that the federal law set a deadline of midnight last night.

Division, division, division. That's the word. And when the media isn't using the "division" word it's using the "political" word, saying that the decision was political.

The media isn't going to get the precious Bush presidency that it wanted so badly. It's going to be a Republcian presidency, and this is a bitter pill for the media to swallow. So -- the game plan? Is it to discredit the Supreme Court and, thus, the Bush presidency?

Naw --- the media wouldn't do that, would they?

No surprise – Democrats won’t disclaim Jackson’s calls for an “explosion.” http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/default-20001213225018.htm

Are we walking on gilded splinters?