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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-13-2000 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>>>>Classic mark sky....
The Seekers recent questions
Sunday, 30-Jan-00 14:18:54

204.241.118.39 writes:
Are similar to those of Jay Reynolds last spring and summer. Simply put they have been asking us "what do you accept as 'normal' and what convinces you otherwise"
I have noticed that most people seem to accept a disapating chemtrail even if the plane flys slowly,lowly, and way away from a commercial air corridor.It may even fly in a circle,have no markings,and leave a trail 3 or 4 times its wingspan,...as long as the trail dissipates, it is considered normal.
I sence The Seeker is asking us,what can they get away with, and what needs more attention to make it more acceptable.

I used to answer these types of questions, then later noted a change in spray techniques.

That is why I no longer answer these types of questions

mark sky
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Well mark it's been 10 months any change in spray technics since ?


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T/S<<<<<

Your "memorie" is "scarie baby"
tell me you are naughtaNSAcrasy
well honey child i am hear now
to listen to your instant sanity

have they changed the spray patterns
did they do it all for you
R listenig pleasure
shall i bid you adu

but i just came here you know
and found you a floundering
in denighal and flailing against
those naught here to defend
against crooked threads

battered with starlinked mush
and deep fried against
truth at all costs
even your soul
which calls out to a seeking meaning
chemtrailed pipelined and new world odered
pathogenosis re vieled
as olde pathways traveled assundered mileuped
you mat take what i say and turnip it unto
a heap of 10 month olde smolder

fore you are a prince
a real jewal of light
god if i was lost
i would seek out your light

for you are uncertain
if you have ever seen a CHEMTRAIL
while we the unenlightened
continue to ASSaile

tweep tweep
tah tah dah
blah blah
daylie you respond to
concerns of thy masters
platitudeinouse blastformationouse
wastelands of disinformation

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-13-2000 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's bad is I understand that....

I think you should atleast give me this mark, I have always maintained that if the evidence would show that something is conclusively amiss I would gladly rejoin the effort....

Poetic injustice :

You said some nasty stuff in the final daze

some of which I am amazed

wondering still about some things

still you think someone pulls my strings

you say I am always here, and whyfor to you is not clear....

my intentions are true, although not to you

allbeit for the sip of a beer....

T/S

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nodebbunker
Senior Member

Indiana USA
200 posts, Nov 2000

posted 12-13-2000 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nodebbunker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark, why don't you set a block of time each day and use Flight Explorer, for a dedicated amount of time? At least you would be able to distiguish what is and what isn't. You can copy FE screens into a Word file, coordinated with copies of the ADDS weather screens, satellite shots, AND take photos simultaneously identifying the "what isn't." You just have to be set up and be ready to go when the strangeness appears in your sky. It takes some effort and persistence, but since you feel so strongly about this issue, I don't understand why you won't give it a try?

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just a housewife from Indiana

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-13-2000 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to apologise to Thermit for reopening something that was closed last night and then falling asleep before i answered the question dredged up by theseeker from a year ago. I guess i was just taken aback that as i cruse this message board, i keep tripping over references to me or questions to me when i was not even here to answer them. I was registared but i had not even been reading this board let alone posting on it. Struck me as very strange.
Anyway the question that was raised I think is a worthy one to discuss, "Have the spray tactics changed due to people discussing them on message boards".
I have noticed a few little changes in spray tactics, as follows.

[1] Jets here on the oregon coast stay a little bit farther off shore than they used to.
[2] there seems to be a bit more effort to make emmisions "look normal" by this I mean two things, one is the attempt to have "a normal disapating type trail"
and the other is by utilizing the "off-on-off" type trail that is less obvious than the full on streak.

of course the picture below {if it pastes} shows that they still make some blatent patterns around here if they need to get the job done.

[image]http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/imgdb/img/543-img.gif[/image]

nodebunker[can i call you chickie deb?]you are correct that if i want to convince you or someone else i must get and use FE, and it is on my list of things to do. Now the FAA in Portland Oregon and the USAF in Klamath Falls OR continue to tell me that these are niether commercial flights nor USAF flights. I suppose they could be Navy?

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-13-2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the photo would not paste so i will try to link it http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/cgi-bin/db-search.cgi?template=img-detail&dbname=img&key2=543&action=searchdbdisplay

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 12-13-2000 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice shot of contrails with mare's tails much higher above.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-13-2000 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

No apology needed. (P.S.: use img instead of image)

FAA filters out all the most "interesting" (military) flights on Flight Explorer Personal Edition.

I will mention that when I first became aware of the very persistent trails, they ran from horizon to horizon, very easy to notice even after an hour of drifting in the wind since they were so long, you could discern their origin. Now, I don't see that anymore. I only see "strips" or "matchstick" types of very persistent trails. These smaller trails are not as easily differentiated from non man-made clouds once they have drifted for a while. Sometimes they are longer "strips", but I don't think I've seen a horizon-to-horizon trail in months.

Why are the ends so sharp?
Doesn't the air mix?
This looks natural????




[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thermit on 12-13-2000]

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 12-14-2000 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perfectly normal to me. Ends only seem sharp due to your distance. Up close they are not sharp at all.

If the air doesn't mix, then they are wasting an awful lot of bio-spray.

If this is their bio-spray, then it isn't working because it is staying right where it was sprayed. This would probably not even land in the U.S.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by LTC8K6 on 12-14-2000]

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-14-2000 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


While these highly persistent trails give the appearance of "staying up there", they are continuously raining down particulates, as can be seen in this photo.

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 12-14-2000 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see some mare's tails and an ordinary contrail spreading out horizontally. I don't see any particles raining down.

Even if I accept your particles raining down, they are ice and will not make it anywhere near the ground. But I don't accept them.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-15-2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here on the West Coast following a spraying we often get this ground level "smoke-haze", even after a rain.{see below}
If you really don't think that anything is falling down, by all means DO NOT spend 25$ on a floresent Black Light and a new plastic wrapped black tee-shirt!
then you wil not have the shock of dicovering all the tiny glowing fibers that fall from the sky.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by mark sky on 12-15-2000]

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-15-2000 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-15-2000 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This page shows the progreesive spreading of chemtrails over Northern California, you don;t think this stuff ever fell to the ground do you?
http://www.contrailconnection.com/Photosrec16.htm

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-15-2000 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can click on this satelitte photo to watch a 5 hour progression of Northern California beeing sprayed.
coast of oregon
Registered: Oct 2000
posted 12-15-2000 03:01 PM
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This page has the "click to view a 5 hour series" of the progressive spreading of chemtrails over Northern California, you don't think this stuff ever fell to the ground do you? http://www.contrailconnection.com/Photosrec15.htm



[Edited 1 times, lastly by mark sky on 12-15-2000]

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elvis lives
Senior Member

Pismo Beach, California
143 posts, Sep 2000

posted 12-15-2000 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elvis lives     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark Sky....I have read your 'spraying' posts now for several months. The only thing missing is your theory. Just what exactly are they spraying on us? Please don't beat around the bush with your answer. What are they spraying on us and why? Thanks

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-16-2000 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>Mark Sky....I have read your 'spraying' posts now for several months.
The only thing missing is your theory. Just what exactly are they spraying on us?
Please don't beat around the bush with your answer. What are they spraying on us and why? Thanks<

"well elvis, my “theory” has not been missing, you just haven’t read between my lines
I have more than one theory
{it IS possible to be that way}
An open mind is the minimum pre requisite for this class

My number one “theory” for your ultimate negative uses is…

“OUR PLANET AND ALL SPECIES UPON IT ARE BEING ALTERED”

this “theory” is that through the use of genetically engineered food, air, altered news, ECT
this planet has been invaded and continues to be invaded by an alien life force
this force does not “like” the way this planet is
and seeks to alter it in every fashion to better represent that which suits it

humans as such do not suit it
nor do alder trees nor native salmioids
http://www.greenpeace.org/~geneng/reports/bio/bio016.htm

"my current “theory”
{which is subject to constant change as evidence rolls in}
is that in the very early years of nuclear destructive capacity {late 1940’s}
we were “re~visited” by “alien” entities who sensed by our actions that we were ripe for “harvest”
at that time the hitler~ ian mindset was saved by both the soviets and US power brokers
and the truly evil elements of the “pure race” types were saved and even fought over
by the two major powers to gain the ultime~ate upper hand
yet the scientists that each side pardoned from their unspeakable sins
to make ultimate power over the "other side"
and eventually over their own people
the power that came from the new world oder
the power was in fact alien nation
and hidden by “national security”
and anti~human

a need to hide under granite mountains
a need to carve out 4 square mile cities deep under the earth
connected by melted subways
a power to make every planetary citizen so afraid
that they would rather separate themselves from the horrendous reality
than face the truth

you ask a simple 3 line question elvis

but the response is quite complex

do I think weather modification is involved
why of course the answer is yes
if you think that is all I think
then the answer is know~more

there is so much more

I believe that there is an ongoing program to “modify”
The entire genetic code of this planet
Via genetically engineered corn, soybeans, and even fish


http://www.nbiap.vt.edu/brarg/brasym96/sutterlin96.htm

I believe that the US~EPA, the CDC,
The USAF, the congress, and ”the powers that be”
Have sold their ALL MIGHTY SOULS
Out to the ~saTan~ INC.

I believe that this planet is being terraformed to suit beings unlike myself
Unlike the beings that have roamed this sphere for eons

I believe that the intentional release of SP6 into the atmosphere
Is intended to terror~form this planet for the domi~nation
Of lifeforms other than humans

I believe that the “environ~mentalist” movement
Is anti~ human
And anti “old world order”

So now dearElvis {and the jay~seeker machine}
Feel free to broadly paint me with your
“Kook~brush”
for I have given you the ammunition you need to fire upon me
will you immeadiately discredit
or will you copy this to a data base like “theseeker” does
and fire it out 11 months later?

Let me ask you a simple question {like you asked me}
Will we be here in 12 months discussing such topics?

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elvis lives
Senior Member

Pismo Beach, California
143 posts, Sep 2000

posted 12-16-2000 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elvis lives     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark...So basically it's the "Invaders From Outer Space silently take over our minds and bodies" theory. You are surely entitled to your opinion, as we all are.

So, is it the aliens who are spraying us and not our own military? Or, has the military been infiltrated by the aliens?

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-16-2000 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark you are incorrect, I do not keep a 'database', why would I ?

However, your 'good buddies' do keep 'databases' on you and a lot of people...wonder why ?

carnicom and chuck warren have an extensive selection of 'oldies'...for everybody's perusal....

enjoy :

Re: TURNING TIDES
Saturday, 12-Jun-99 17:18:45

writes:
IT SEEMS THAT there is some selectivity to the effects of the spray. Sure some stay indoors in a filtered enviroment while othes are outside in the full blast. Some are not in a selected invasion zone while others are living at ground zero. But above that I see a selectivity against "freethinkers" "independants" "producers" and others of a common DNA CODE ? Genetics and germ warfare are at least 50 years old now as a field. Television a tool? one other thing I've noticed is that those without a TV or who are not very "interested" (addicted?) in TV seem to have better "vision" of those things around them. Perhaps those who would spray would also control throught subliminal techniques much more commercially developed. Forgive the blind amoung you. They nor you are responcible for this "reality" we witness. Had a resent call from a father who apolligized to his yound son for this era . But it is was not his doing, nor will he reap the long term sorrow that those who ARE Responcible shall ENJOY. Keep your soul clean and this shall be "but the blink of the eye" to your existance. See you on the other side.

mark sky
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
T/S

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-17-2000 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
theseeker
you are won funny dude
"you don't keep databases"~but you regugitate
posts from the past like they are going out of style...
elvislives
of course i believe that the total military
is enveloped in the process
if you had truely been reading what i have been saying
you would have long ago realized
that i am friggin nuts
and most of those like me here on these boards
and being that you are of a normal intel
igents, you would be long gone
and out of here
but you persist like a chemtrail

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-17-2000 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
theseeker
that was a great
"blast from the past"
en~joy
thanks, mark sky

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-19-2000 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Satire'

Chemmie Taking Low Altitude Trails Samples

T/S

[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 12-19-2000]

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nodebbunker
Senior Member

Indiana USA
200 posts, Nov 2000

posted 12-19-2000 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nodebbunker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark, I would really like to watch your area on FE. Would you e-mail me with your latitude and longitude at cdebgo@zipmax.com?

And of course, you can call me Chickie Deb, in fact, I prefer it. I picked "No-deb=bunker" to get the point across that I am not a debunker of the professional persuasion as dejembemon (so crafty) spun over at CEC's. I am

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just a housewife from Indiana

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-20-2000 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awe some graffiks theseeker
standing on the pinicle of truth
oh course i may or maybe wearing a suit at the time of this revelation
{hardie har yuck inole}

thank you C. Deb~~~ why as you know i stand at the extreame corner of the state {left coast}
upon the pacific next t o the line
and perched above the ocean,pointing your broauuzer fair upon the intersection of the land ~the sea~ and the border of california and oregon will get you there.
need a map?
this piece of the picture puzzle goes here
of course
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/montalk/chemtrails.html

and as i am now hear
i will of corse have to sAY
that if i were an airline attempting to fly in this way
i would have crashed and burned long ago
for my pilots would have been ruled insane
dumping their fuel
and crisscrossing so
THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN RULED THE FOOL

but in this new gene et ik pool
i can play the fool

swim past the light
will the temperature
turn you into a trans
fibian male or a super female

only GOD knows
but naught often we hear
we hang in the balence
we swing in places
like here

dang gleing by threads
twisted by strands of
DNA
2 or 12
how am i to say

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-20-2000 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mark (s), Jay gave you a page....
http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/mnemonic/1879/

I will post a post of mine from july 99'...in the effort to be fair and balanced...but it is ZZZZZZZ time....and I would have to type it....til tomorrow....

T/S

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-20-2000 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.>You are surely entitled to your opinion, as we all are.
So, is it the aliens who are spraying us and not our own military? Or, has the military been infiltrated by the aliens?,

well elvis, you tell me
if the USAF and US NAVY had an air show
and the greys showeded up

WHO's technology would you put your personal
money on?
TO PUT ON A SHOW
yeah well you don't believe
yet you linger for all these months
so i put no money on you
to make any splash

there are no chemtrails
its just normal airline traffic
changeing your skys
cant you see baybee

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