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Topic: Pacific Coast 'Ship Trails' | Topic page views:
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Sore Throat
Senior Member
x 736 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-21-2000 10:46 PM
A great find by Anne from Napa on the Carnicom board.20001220.1930.goes-10.vis.x.mbay.x.jpg (full size 78 KB) (Check Carnicom board for correct link) http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=3929.topic Massive, parallel "Ship Trails" off the California Coast that just happen to extend right on over the continent. Now I know that the hydroplanes that are required to spread these within the observed generation time go fast, how is it that they seem to keep going when they run out of water. Oh, these aren't "Ship Trails" this time you say...these are CONtrails. Oh really? Such just what air route were these planes flying? Why weren't there apparent trails in a multitude of OTHER directions if atmospheric conditions were so perfect for such persistent trail formation? And how is it that such a "perfect" atmospheric condition extends over land and sea? Come on CANEX and Rooster...we're waiting! Bud...weis....errrrrrrrr!!
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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State 267 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 12-22-2000 12:35 PM
Thermit, are they inoculating the water or what?
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 12-22-2000 02:14 PM
 Um, let me guess, the wind is blowing toward the coast... Like others have mentioned it takes a while for anything to get down, so spraying upwind of the coast makes good sense. These certainly aren't shiptrails. Shiptrails are notorius for their strange non-linear shape. This occurs as the wind shifts around the relatively slow-moving boat. See animation of real ship trails here.
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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State 267 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 12-22-2000 03:11 PM
Surely this issue is too important for guesses, for you, I mean.
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Sore Throat
Senior Member
x 736 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-22-2000 04:54 PM
Debunkers appear to be DUMBfounded.
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elvis lives
Senior Member
Pismo Beach, California 143 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-22-2000 09:54 PM
Throat.....you said"Debunkers appear to be DUMBfounded." There is absolutely nothing in that photo to be dumbfounded about. That is unless your STUPID enough to think that the Armed Forces would have an army out spraying the whales, seals, and golfers around Pebble Beach. GET FRIGGEN REAL OK? Monterey, California...Population 32,792
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 02:03 AM
Throat,YOU have no proof of : more people dieing getting sicker sample of material causing the above or doing anything unusual ,even if you strapped yourself to a jet engine and went up there you would leave a trail under the right conditions.... There's real concerns out there Throat, why do you waste your time with contrails ? T/S 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 10:13 AM
It would make sense to spray off the coast and let the air currents carry the chemicals inland as I have seen many times on satellite pics. Good photo Anne.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 10:49 AM
Nice find, ST. Anne's becoming quite the tekkie, isn't she - ha ha! GOOD FOR HER!!I still think the photographs submitted to this site are the most powerful evidence of the current State of Affairs. Has everyone gone into the "PSAs" [Public Service Announcements] link to the left of this frame? About halfway down that page is a collection of photographs taken in Santa Monica, CA by "rick_m_la". The impact of seeing all these images together in one place is quite stunning, in my opinion. 
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 10:53 AM
Nothing like starting your morning with a disillusioned individual....>Theseeker has a lot of seeking still to do; seek thy way to a dictionary while you're at it. < Really, LuLu, maybe you should as well... >Good satelite photo. < 2 l's in satellite People who live in glass houses lulu.... T/S 
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 03:52 PM
Lulu's absolutely right. I've edited this though, in the spirit of Christmas, because I said too much of what was on my mind.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 12-23-2000] 
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elvis lives
Senior Member
Pismo Beach, California 143 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 05:53 PM
Lulu...you said"It would make sense to spray off the coast and let the air currents carry the chemicals inland as I have witnessed on numerous occasions here in southern B.C." I see. You have witnessed this on several occasions. Planes spraying chemicals to kill and maim the residents of British Columbia. I'm sure you have a sample of these chemicals that were sprayed so those whom you are calling killers can be brought to justice. I'm afraid the only thing your seeing Lulu is one hell of a lot of contrail activity. Vancouver International Airport is a hub of non-stop Commercial aircraft activity. My guess is air traffic in and around Vancouver has doubled in the last 10 years. It's time for you to hang it up Lulu. Learn to recognize a hoax when you see one. Your just another victim of the hype created by carnicom and others, who profit from this insanity.

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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 06:56 PM
Elvis, you have obviously made up your mind and concluded that chemtrails are a hoax. Everyone who reads this board knows what you believe by now. This is simply your belief based on partial evidence, just as the other extreme saying that chemtails are the result of an aerial innoculation or a chemical testing program is a belief or theory. I think both sides are in error if they state theories as if they were proven fact. Both extremes are lacking absolutely conclusive evidence to prove the other side wrong. No Elvis, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you have not proven this to be a hoax yet. Just repeating yourself doesn't get anyone closer to the truth. If you had talked to the people I have talked to regarding this issue, you might want to re-think your position. 
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nodebbunker
Senior Member
Indiana USA 200 posts, Nov 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 07:09 PM
>"If you had talked to the people I have talked to regarding this issue, you might want to re-think your position"<Pray tell, Cy. Take this to the ghetto (debate/Debunk Forum) and share with us these talks. I am coming more and more in contact with commercial airline professionals (real mechanics and aircraft maintenance manager) and I would like to have some questions for them. ------------------ just a housewife from Indiana 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 09:26 PM
elvis...I can see why you were booted off Lo and Cliff's boards! lol
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elvis lives
Senior Member
Pismo Beach, California 143 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 11:33 PM
Lulu....you said"Did I say these trails maim or kill anyone? No. I'm not calling anyone a killer." Yet in another post on this board you said... "Don't blame Clinton for chemtrail crimes against humanity. He's just a mindless puppet. Blame the puppet master(s)." Maybe you could explain what you mean by 'chemtrail crimes against humanity'. Sounds like murder to me. You also said... "What works for me is home-made garlic oil (cloves of garlic steeped in virgin olive oil), cayenne pepper, and olive leaf extract taken on a daily basis. Am awaiting the delivery of a nebulizer, purchased and sent free of charge from a most generous member of chemtrail tracking usa, and will soon add colloidal silver to this regimen." If you are in need of a nebulizer I would assume you have asthma or some other type of upper respritory disease. I am sorry if that is the case but you need to look elsewhere for the cause. Chemtrails are a hoax. Also, I see you live in Kelowna, B.C. Lovely place, spent 3 weeks there this summer. Beautiful lakes, mountains, and 5 top level destination golf courses. Hope your health improves. 
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M. Magoo
New Member
14 posts, Nov 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 11:55 PM
Said Deborah,>>Nice find, ST. Anne's becoming quite the tekkie, isn't she - ha ha! GOOD FOR HER!!<< Anne found and retrieved a satellite pic all by herself? I mean it truly when I say I am sure Anne is a very nice person, but after many many months of reading her vacuous-- and I mean totally vacuous!-- posts, I can see why you would be excited. 
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M. Magoo
New Member
14 posts, Nov 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 12:11 AM
>>Theseeker has a lot of seeking still to do; seek thy way to a dictionary while you're at it. <<>2 l's in satellite..< Holy spell-checker, batman! Check out the sheer volume of posts this lady was able to crank out inside the space of just an hour or so today. The *first* time around, I mean. Is there such a thing as "Majorly Manic" in the old Webster's? One thing we can be sure they're not spraying is Lithium. 
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Sore Throat
Senior Member
x 736 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 12:30 AM
Everyone should note that all of the dubunkers who responded to this post completely failed to address the VERY OBVIOUS issue that if atmospheric conditions were correct for persistent CONtrail formation, then where are the North/South trails that should be readily apparent in this highly travelled air corridor.What happened Rooster...did your Flight Explorer break down? And Elvis...what a piece of work...raving about killing people. Well Elvis did get rather out there in his final days...those pills weren't all by prescription were they Elvis? But come on guys, you can do better than that. IF conditions were so perfect for the formation of persistent trails, why was it that ONLY this set of parallel NW to SE trails was observed? Simple question. I'm sure you can grasp the full implications of the answer... ...or lack thereof. And not to worry Anne... you've got Mr. Magoo stumped!
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 12:49 AM
I'm going to have to side with our liberal friend Sore Throat on this one! S.T. has the most logical arguments here, and all the debunkers seem to manage are put-downs.Just Cy's two cents from the peanut gallery...
[Edited 1 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 12-24-2000] 
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 01:02 AM
Boy if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black....all liberals do is result to personal attacks, when they lack facts...like you cy, Throat, north south ????That was one of the WORST sat pic's I have ever seen and if the north south traffic was under the cloud deck how would you know....Hmmmm..? you guys are something else..... You are following a belief system....plain and simple....there are no test results that conclusively show that your chemtrails are anything more than water..... Believers refute that.... and no I won't hold my breath.... T/S 
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nodebbunker
Senior Member
Indiana USA 200 posts, Nov 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 08:02 AM
Will someone explain this satellite shot to me and why all the excitement? Contrails above, below, in front of and in back of, not to mention within a front is most common. These seem to begin and end at the edge of the cloud cover.Also, an event can only be seen on FE when it happens, as it is in real time. That's why anyone who is truly a contrail watcher should have it at their disposal and corroborate contrail formations with photos, FE, satellites and the ADDS weather page captured into a Word file or something where it can be later compared with other tools like the Seawifs page. One without the other just doesn't provide enough information to raise questions. I'm not stumped because there is not enough info presented. If we all sat and watched GOES 10 all day, we would probably see alot more of this. AND when did Ann(e), Throat or anyone else get their degrees in meteorology to qualify them the to turn an assumption into a conclusion? Indeed, statements made without the effort of corroborating facts and data is riding on the tails of a belief system. I asked this before but no one replied - When did Ann add an "e" to her name? Also, if you read some of her posts at the old Carnicom board, every once in awhile she will state something profound that doesn't align with her other posts. ------------------ just a housewife from Indiana 
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elvis lives
Senior Member
Pismo Beach, California 143 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 11:06 AM
"Just Cy's two cents from the peanut gallery..."Finally, you said something that makes sense. 
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 01:01 PM
cencored response to elvis by self to promote holiday cheer
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elvis lives
Senior Member
Pismo Beach, California 143 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 12-24-2000 02:31 PM
"cencored response to elvis by self to promote holiday cheer"That brings up another subject. I wonder how Saint Nick makes his way through all the 'chemhaze'? Do you think he wears a respirator?

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