posted 01-01-2001 09:40 PM            

old hound doggian sound
plastereed fantesy free
upon
your desatiny

enter if you dare the tunnel of
lifes karen hope
and breath free

the notes played
the mist
er yee
above

you may lay back and fire
and in a trANSITORY mire
de lude your mind
"For it is all fine, foer it isa allk fine
fore it is all fine"

the chemslime goes down the shute
miety fine

look out and sea the sky
don't ask me
the deviant mine
asunder

blowes the king
and slips by the mind
helpless lee falling
this chempoet of the end of tyme
ripens the momment
sytheths the grain

and would knot you know it
i have got chembraIN

not headed to the sublime
i follow not yet seekin
i do naught toe the line of
acck sept ack~ancnce
no more defined
shALL i goes into the shaDOWS
drifftin amoungts the slimb

posted 01-01-2001 09:53 PM            

and enabled
fracticiouse lust]
you mean., you thoght
you saw
let me "lend you"
this tomahock
let me send home
this message
this tome

cAN YOU HEAR me
have you got a goast of a chance
you come nippon at my heels
lady dear are you part france

posted 01-01-2001 10:07 PM            

wipes the window of the insanity
of the momments bar coded
what can i say?
seeking t rut th
and unbelaid i stand in my insanity]

posted 01-01-2001 11:28 PM            

I gave you the formula to get attention and you rebuke it...one more time...

>Now those of you that maintain that the military are spraying you should produce a list , consisting of, people involved in this refuted program, and pictures of sprayers affixed or on planes in discernible sight, at more than one area of the country, or in relation to pattern areas of reported sightings, to show beyond a reasonable doubt that there are spray planes and a existing program....<

Why do you Dj, mark, feel so threatened by logic ?

There is an explanation for all things through study and logical thought....

There is no explanation for belief....

Systematic deduction will provide answers, aircraft have bases they also have people who maintain them and pilots who fly them and people who control them....

Just tell me this if you had a disease would you want logical thought process involved in determining your fate....or belief....

I would appreciate if the "F" word was edited...

To close, mark I did not attack your character in this thread, so why must you do so to me ?

Dj, the premise of this thread was not about sniping, it was about forming logical thought process to properly examine the trails...

Your efforts to cloud the issue won't work with me....

circular logic indeed....

T/S

posted 01-02-2001 12:51 AM            

a crazy soul witnessing life
while you and urine
dribble breathless in the night

posted 01-02-2001 10:52 PM            

Logical non sequiters DO NOT, in any way, constitute what is commonly recognized as "rational thought". [Rather they illustrate "flawed logic" or attempts at intentional deception.]

Second, poetry teaches in several highly effective ways:
- It is personal,
- TRANS-literal,
- visual,
- rich in metaphor, nuance and allegory,
- and is also highly subjective.
[In essence, people may learn the same thing or come to a similar conclusion, albeit in a highly personal, subjective, and meaningful manner, merely through the common experience of "poetry".]

These characteristics cause it to bypass the "normal" or usual learning processes of the brain, and thus illustrate themes and ideas in images and ways for which "rational" thought is entirely unequipped.

Perhaps this is why virtually every totalitarian regime initially attempts to wrest control of the literate minds of its time, as such powerful modes of free expression are most always deemed "subversive" (regardless of content) by a statist or corporate elite.

posted 01-03-2001 12:24 AM            

why are you so afraid of logic ?

posted 01-03-2001 11:22 AM            

Man, I love you stuff! I've been reading it for two months now on other boards and have to say that you have a GIFT, my brother.

Have you considered putting together a book when all this is over, kinda like the poem books that were written by civil war soldiers who were there? I think that your intuitive commentaries are spot on.

posted 01-03-2001 12:32 PM            

Hello, all. Looks like this site isn't the one-sided apocalypse that is Mr. Carnicom's. Gee, a site that bans people who don't follow the herd, run by a guy who won't return my e-mails but feels free to censor every post I make. Great. Sign me up so I can be a zombie, too. What a joke. I was actually pretty open-minded on the subject until I was subjected to the endless attacks on his site. No one answered any of my questions, and instead everyone chose to bash me for being a pilot, for trying to impersonate a pilot, for not believing in their cause without objection, and for being a part of what is so obviously a huge government operation and disinformation campaign.

So, I'm back to square one, with more enemies than answers. Hope I can continue the quest here!

posted 01-03-2001 01:21 PM            

By the way, love the slander. Every time you personally attack me, your true colors come out. I've never personally attacked you, NSAsucks, nor anybody else on the Carnicom site. Why do you insist on resorting to it? I know the answer to that, as do lots of other people out there. Your livelihood is fear and hate, and apparently cuddling up next to Mr. Sky. I saw your post calling me a baby killer on Carnicom's site before it was erased. Quite frankly, the hate in your posts should offend everyone, and I was glad to see Mr. Carnicom actually draw the line with you. Too bad he's the sheepherder.

I actually enjoy reading your "Fighting back" series, but if your self-promotion goes much further I'm going to have to ask you to start putting your columns up in the advertising space instead of in the forums.

I'm glad that I get to deal with people like you, NSAsucks, because I know that you can get away with what you say. Other militaries in other countries would just as soon haul you off to a very remote place and do unspeakable things to you for what you are saying. Although I may or may not have the occasional fantasy of that happening to you, this is not an option here. Instead, because of those who have fought and died before me, you get to call me names on a worldwide public forum. Ain't democracy great? Oops, I forgot, I'm asking this question of a fellow who apparently has had more had enough run-ins with the feds to have 250 different articles on "fighting back," or at least enough material for about 20 sequels to the movie "Conspiracy Theory." Sorry, wrong question.

Luv ya honey,

Maverick

(update 01-04-01 0105am cst)
What country does this one get me? Norway? Nairobi? Cambodia?

posted 01-03-2001 02:32 PM            

Sorry I doubted your poetic abilities.

posted 01-04-2001 01:13 AM            

Your "baby killer,"
Maverick