posted 01-05-2001 12:24 PM            

No...you do....

regards

posted 01-05-2001 12:30 PM            

I love you guyz.

posted 01-05-2001 01:06 PM            

well I have some work to go to...to pay for all that 'free' parnate that you get from the vet....

posted 01-05-2001 04:49 PM            

Don't you just luv counter-intel?

posted 01-05-2001 09:12 PM            

Speaking of message boards, looks like you're taking a beating of your own amidst your own kind on Carnicom's (sorry, Thermit for referring to another board.) Pirahnas hunt in packs and eat their own. Welcome to the feeding frenzy.

Pals,
Maverick

posted 01-05-2001 09:51 PM            

Tell me, how many people did you chembomb today, assuming you are at least being truthful about one thing, all your other lies exposed for all to see as we've done.

posted 01-05-2001 10:11 PM            

I'm a fighter pilot. I don't have the room in my plane for much other than gas and myself. You're barking up the wrong green apple tree, which has been my contention all along. I didn't fly today, anyway. Thanks for asking, though.

We can continue to discuss how great you think you are, or debate every time you bring out another insult directed at me. Either way, you appear to be doing exactly what you accuse others of doing. I counted the number of front page posts the night before last, and you had started most of them and none of them had anything to do with the forum subject at all. Also, you had the last post in 23 of the 30 latest topics. Hmm. Seems like you either love having your hands in as many cookie jars as you can, or you're trying to distract everyone from the subject at hand. Either way, you're annoying at best. Let's all see how you change my name again on the inevitable next post by you.

Kisses,
Maverick

posted 01-05-2001 10:50 PM            

Sorry, but I have to ask you - could you please cool it with the "fag" stuff - it's getting a little thick.

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TopGun -

I have a question for you. Could you please briefly explain the protocol for achieving Fighter Pilot status? I assume there is more than one level to this process, each involving a specific requirement as to number of hours of flight time logged - is that correct? How many hours total does it take to attain Fighter Pilot status? How many hours are required annually to maintain this status, once attained? Is all required flight time accomplished solo or with a partner or both?

posted 01-05-2001 11:16 PM            

I'll answer your question and be as brief as I can, but the whole answer is a little more than brief.

O.K., to be a figher pilot, one must first be selected to go to pilot training. Depending on the service you apply to, the standards and requirements vary considerably. Also, the Air National Guard selects their own pilots from their own pools of applicants. Anyway, when you get selected, become an officer, and pass all of the other requirements (flight physical, etc.,) you go off to pilot training, which lasts a year. During that year, the student pilots compete against each other and get about 250 flying hours in the T-37 and whatever their follow-on aircraft is. Fighter selectees move on to the T-38, and receive a set of silver wings at the end of training along with the pilots from the transport/tanker track. The training is both dual (an instructor sitting in the plane with you) and solo (either by yourself or with an instructor in another plane.)

Near the end of training, the pilots find out what plane they were assigned to fly. After a short fighter fundamentals course, they go off to the RTU for their particular aircraft. Mine was six months long and involved about 150 hours of flight time. Most of this is solo flight with an instructor in another plane. I suppose that you would attain "fighter pilot" status after graduating from RTU, but there's no official granting of the term "fighter pilot" to anyone.

After this training, there's a lot of other schools that I had to go to, such as land and water survival school, as well as some specialized training for the particular mission my first assignment base has. Also, I wasn't considered "mission ready," or war-capable until after completing a short mission upgrade training (MQT) period at my first base.

Now that I'm fully qualified, I basically have to fly six sorties per month and meet a number of other requirements as well. I usually have no trouble meeting that quota, luckily. I train like I fight, and that means that I am almost never by myself when I fly. My plane is single-seat, but we normally employ in elements of two and four. We fly solo on cross-countries, incentive flights, and functional check flights.

After becoming a fully qualified fighter pilot, there are many upgrades to go through, each with different criteria. Some of them are: two-ship flight lead, four-ship flight lead, mission commander, and instructor pilot. Also, after attaining a certain level of experience as a Pilot, you are awarded the Senior Pilot status and subsequently the Command Pilot status.

Hope I answered your questions. Sorry for being rather long-winded.

MAV

posted 01-05-2001 11:21 PM            

I'vew had two threads closed, and never got anywhere near the obscenity...not like our new visitor nsa....

I know your smart bill, you know why he's here....and probably have an inkling of who sent him....

great that you point it out...but nothing will be done....they walk a different line than us who question....

posted 01-05-2001 11:40 PM            

Thank you. That was very interesting. So it sounds like a total of ~400 hours' flight time is required for completion of training, yes?

I understand that the title "fighter pilot" isn't officially conferred upon completion of training, but is everyone who successfully completes the training expected to be at the same level of "combat-readiness" at any given time [with mission upgrade training, etc.] or are there other areas in which a pilot may choose to specialize? [Probably not - I just don't know anything about it and am curious.]

posted 01-06-2001 12:01 AM            

I haven't looked at my logbook, but I'm guessing that the 400-hour mark is good for a fresh-out-of-RTU fighter pilot. Through MQT and another shor course I got another 50 hours or so until I was given the mission ready (MR) status.

All MR pilots on paper are expected to function as a combat capable wingman. The duties and responsibilities go up with your experience and qualifications, such as a four-ship flight lead. This person is responsible for leading, employing, and ensuring the safety of three other aircraft while at the same time flying his (or her) own plane. A mission commander takes this up to the next higher level, where this person is responsible for the employment of an entire package of aircraft, from the tankers to the fighters to the bombers. An MR wingman straight out of training is not expected to have this level of ability.

As far as the maintenance goes, we are required to know the functions of the various systems on our plane as well as be able to troubleshoot when there's a problem. But this troubleshooting is for when we're in the jet and there's a problem. Yes, we train constantly to deal with these problems in study and in emergency procedures (EP) simulators. As far as working on the plane goes, we are not qualified to do any maintenance. Besides, our avionics and systems are of such complexity that a specialist is usually required to do the troubleshooting. I can point out a problem to a mechanic, but it's his job to do the fixing. If I am stuck on a cross-country at a civilian field, I may be able to do a little basic work after a phone call to our maintenance troops. If the problem is more serious, I get picked up by a two-seater and our maintenance guys have to drive or fly over and do the work where the plane is parked. This doesn't happen very often, but it sets back the squadron pretty bad when we have to send our resources off station to fix a broke jet.

MAV

posted 01-06-2001 12:34 AM            

If you recall, the very instant I posted those FIGHTING backs, Stinker, Septic Tank, and Topquack, started in on my - they drew first blood. That opened the door. Look at my original posts, and then the stream of hatred, character attacks, etc., from these disinformatin agents and scumbags.

They drew first blood. And they will have to live with the consequences.

posted 01-06-2001 12:47 AM            

"Look at my original posts, and then the stream of hatred, character attacks, etc., from these disinformatin agents and scumbags."

-Is this the pot calling the kettle black or what? Look in the mirror, pal. You can't resist an attack on any of the three of us labled "targets."

If "suffering the consequences" means the perpetual interaction with you, then count me in! Let's do lunch sometime. However, I won't let you get up from the table until you've tried crow. I'll bet that you like it a lot already, though.

Au revoir!

Maverick

posted 01-06-2001 01:27 AM            

you (sucks) are a plant...a true dis-informat...you have posted nothing here on topic as to trails in your area, when asked to produce information you never do.... you use no objective perspective nor do you discuss your philosophy....you cannot be taken seriously....

You (sucks) claim to watch a lot of tv and commercials...you cannot be taken seriously...

you (sucks) are totally anonymous,and appear to be overly paranoid... you cannot be taken seriously....

you (sucks) also said that these 250 lessons were of your own pen....that was a lie....you cannot be taken seriously....

Liars are not to be trusted and when proven so....are to be confront by all good men with a conscience and a love for country...and most certainly liars are not to be taken seriously...

I am the real Slim Shady....

posted 01-06-2001 02:10 AM            

There's nothing like being on a 'underground' list....

>Sucks to hunted, doesn't it.<

LOL !